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northroad1878 · 12th June 2007, 22:11

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

let me just start you off with just a few points

Let me stop you there.

Bye, I'm off for a run.

NewtonHeathFC · 12th June 2007, 22:12

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Originally Posted by northroad1878

He doesn't understand doing things for anything but money.

And he's making it evidently clear, despite his instincts. It's another thing he's wrong about.

but you are being naive ... i've addressed that
do you expect a club of United's size to be run by some part time unqualified workers ?
do you expect the to live of donations.

amateurs will drive united into the ground , an qualified professional wont work for coupons.

your theory is detached from reality ... its more of a fantasy ... you know it will never happen and im sure it calms you down that while riding your high horse there are enough of "loyalist" that will make sure "we'll never die"

NewtonHeathFC · 12th June 2007, 22:13

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Originally Posted by northroad1878

Let me stop you there.

Bye, I'm off for a run.

enjoy

NewtonHeathFC · 12th June 2007, 22:15

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Originally Posted by redfan

Are you a complete fucking idiot, one member one fucking vote what is it that you don't understand, please tell me.

2+2 is 4
and a man has to put his wee wee into a woman's cha cha to get a baby

is there a point you are trying to make by restating random facts ?

redfan · 12th June 2007, 22:17

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

but you are being naive ... i've addressed that
do you expect a club of United's size to be run by some part time unqualified workers ?
do you expect the to live of donations.

amateurs will drive united into the ground , an qualified professional wont work for coupons.

your theory is detached from reality ... its more of a fantasy ... you know it will never happen and im sure it calms you down that while riding your high horse there are enough of "loyalist" that will make sure "we'll never die"

You have just confirmed what an idiot you are, the idea is that the members elect a board to run the club, experts in what they do, am I getting through yet, the members do not run the club somebody does it on their behalf,ffs.

redfan · 12th June 2007, 22:20

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

2+2 is 4
and a man has to put his wee wee into a woman's cha cha to get a baby

is there a point you are trying to make by restating random facts ?

If you want to say that you want to fuck somebody please don't talk baby talk, what is it that you don't understand.... for fucks sake tell me.

NewtonHeathFC · 12th June 2007, 22:30

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Originally Posted by redfan

If you want to say that you want to fuck somebody please don't talk baby talk, what is it that you don't understand.... for fucks sake tell me.

i dont understand what you bring to this discussion ?
you have no opinion no line of thought
you barged in with random facts and keep restating them.

TheGreyParrot · 12th June 2007, 22:37

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Originally Posted by northroad1878

Let me stop you there.

Bye, I'm off for a run.

Fuckin scousers, eh!

redfan · 12th June 2007, 23:20

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

i dont understand what you bring to this discussion ?
you have no opinion no line of thought
you barged in with random facts and keep restating them.

All I have argued is the concept of democracy, something you fail to understand, please explain the random facts I keep stating and if you think that I have no opinion then you clearly don't know me.

NewtonHeathFC · 13th June 2007, 07:16

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Originally Posted by redfan

All I have argued is the concept of democracy, something you fail to understand, please explain the random facts I keep stating and if you think that I have no opinion then you clearly don't know me.

well i don't know you.
you keep restating the basics of democracy. and for what ?

the minute sport becomes a profession it becomes a business. its their life and their living. at the head of professional football club there are always businessmen , and good businessmen are looking to profit. be it a privately owned club or even clubs like Madrid and Barca where the executives lie their arses off to get elected and get that fat pay check. be it Calderon who said he signed ronaldo , or barca who are now being sued fro claiming to having secured henry. its always the same shite with those clubs. theres nothing stable about any aspect of either of those clubs everything constantly changes when people realize the cunt they elected is not what he said he is.

thats precisely the reason that nearly all professional clubs are privately owned.

only really small clubs and semi-professional clubs can allow themselves to be run by part time unpaid chairmen , by people who dont care for capitalism or business.
UNITED WAS NEVER SUCH CLUB , so i really dont know what fucking clubs the lot of you were following all those years . why before you were letting the business side be and concentrated on voicing your opinions regarding football ?!?
from what i hear it is the fans who disliked Sexton and had him sacked. it is the fans who nearly sacked fergie. the fans SHOULD always have a say in the football part of the game , and they will ALWAYS have that say especially if the club is privately owned.

but you cant take some ones life and some ones profession and turn it into your personal hobby , i mean you really want to you should gather a bunch of people and form a football club and do whatever the fuck you want with it.

but your drivel about turning a club of United stature into something like that is deranged . its not about democracy its about being completely detached from reality and and extremely hypocritical (granted that you were loyal fans of a club run by businessmen for a long time).

Hizzy · 13th June 2007, 08:46

Where can I buy this new homeshirt??.....

I live in Italy and getting home to the UK is a rare event!. I left Salford just as the Glazer takeover had happened and was I really quite positive about the forming of FCUoM and their stance regarding 'capitalism', but sadly haven't had much press about it over here, would really like to get more info about club and follow the progress for the 07/08 season.....any suggestions??

NewtonHeathFC · 13th June 2007, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Hizzy

Where can I buy this new homeshirt??.....

I live in Italy and getting home to the UK is a rare event!. I left Salford just as the Glazer takeover had happened and was I really quite positive about the forming of FCUoM and their stance regarding 'capitalism', but sadly haven't had much press about it over here, would really like to get more info about club and follow the progress for the 07/08 season.....any suggestions??

if you dislike capitalism why do you chose to live in an advanced country ?
you should rent a hut in cambodia , there you can do fun stuff like hunt and spot angelina jolie skinny dipping...

i mean why rest on the laurels of capitalism in western civilization ?

Hizzy · 13th June 2007, 10:16

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

if you dislike capitalism why do you chose to live in an advanced country ?
you should rent a hut in cambodia , there you can do fun stuff like hunt and spot angelina jolie skinny dipping...

i mean why rest on the laurels of capitalism in western civilization ?

First, I chose Italy because my wife is Italian!, secondly, your perception of an 'advanced' Italy, depends on the region you live!, not to disimilar to that of the UK, but the advantages are greater. If I had my own way, I would live in a hut, maybe not in Cambodia, but I would be quite happy fishing all day with a 'shmoke 'n a pancake!', unfortunately I have a family to consider!. I hate capitalism, my job was 'capitalism' it still is!, but this is the world I live in!, this is the world we have created. There are no so-called democracies, if so, where the fuck are they?, where will my voice be heard?, where will my opinion count?......the truth is, nowhere!.....

redfan · 13th June 2007, 10:34

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

well i don't know you.
you keep restating the basics of democracy. and for what ?

the minute sport becomes a profession it becomes a business. its their life and their living. at the head of professional football club there are always businessmen , and good businessmen are looking to profit. be it a privately owned club or even clubs like Madrid and Barca where the executives lie their arses off to get elected and get that fat pay check. be it Calderon who said he signed ronaldo , or barca who are now being sued fro claiming to having secured henry. its always the same shite with those clubs. theres nothing stable about any aspect of either of those clubs everything constantly changes when people realize the cunt they elected is not what he said he is.

thats precisely the reason that nearly all professional clubs are privately owned.

only really small clubs and semi-professional clubs can allow themselves to be run by part time unpaid chairmen , by people who dont care for capitalism or business.
UNITED WAS NEVER SUCH CLUB , so i really dont know what fucking clubs the lot of you were following all those years . why before you were letting the business side be and concentrated on voicing your opinions regarding football ?!?
from what i hear it is the fans who disliked Sexton and had him sacked. it is the fans who nearly sacked fergie. the fans SHOULD always have a say in the football part of the game , and they will ALWAYS have that say especially if the club is privately owned.

but you cant take some ones life and some ones profession and turn it into your personal hobby , i mean you really want to you should gather a bunch of people and form a football club and do whatever the fuck you want with it.

but your drivel about turning a club of United stature into something like that is deranged . its not about democracy its about being completely detached from reality and and extremely hypocritical (granted that you were loyal fans of a club run by businessmen for a long time).

I will only say, Barcelona, now just fuck off and drivel somewhere else.

NewtonHeathFC · 13th June 2007, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Hizzy

First, I chose Italy because my wife is Italian!, secondly, your perception of an 'advanced' Italy, depends on the region you live!, not to disimilar to that of the UK, but the advantages are greater. If I had my own way, I would live in a hut, maybe not in Cambodia, but I would be quite happy fishing all day with a 'shmoke 'n a pancake!', unfortunately I have a family to consider!. I hate capitalism, my job was 'capitalism' it still is!, but this is the world I live in!, this is the world we have created. There are no so-called democracies, if so, where the fuck are they?, where will my voice be heard?, where will my opinion count?......the truth is, nowhere!.....

exactly . you said the key word - Responsibilities.
that theory they came up with for UNITED (not FC) ignores such words, it takes on professionals who devoted their life to the sport and trying to make them into amateurs with a hobby .

sure its hippy like to hate money, but lets say a footballer breaks both his legs .. cant support the family anymore , so a person who could have been making a great living has just subjected his family to a life of struggle ?
and for what ? for the benefit of some self proclaimed saints ?
i doubt those saints are unemployed , i bet much like you they are a part of capitalism and make a good living .

i also bet that if they are offered more money for what they do they wouldn't refuse it either.
bunch of hypocrisy mixed with fantasy ...not only that will never happen in a country where capitalism is everything but also its poorly thought through , because those players devote their life to a very short playing career, the risk they take is far too great, the physical burden is far too great and when you consider how much they benefit others in terms of entertainment, advertisement, commercial opportunities (for city and neighboring businesses) you get the answer of why are they rewarded.

everything becomes more expensive with time , if you rent than you know what you paid in 2000 is different from what you paid in 1960.

NewtonHeathFC · 13th June 2007, 10:48

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Originally Posted by redfan

I will only say, Barcelona, now just fuck off and drivel somewhere else.

ive mentioned barcelona before you did

redfan · 13th June 2007, 11:47

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Originally Posted by NewtonHeathFC

ive mentioned barcelona before you did

Don't smile at me........

26 may 1999 · 13th June 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Hizzy

Where can I buy this new homeshirt??.....

I live in Italy and getting home to the UK is a rare event!. I left Salford just as the Glazer takeover had happened and was I really quite positive about the forming of FCUoM and their stance regarding 'capitalism', but sadly haven't had much press about it over here, would really like to get more info about club and follow the progress for the 07/08 season.....any suggestions??

Hizzy you can buy the shirt here...

www.fc-utd.co.uk

And from next season you can watch LIVE and recorded games and highlights here

www.fcum.tv

Hizzy · 13th June 2007, 15:43

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Originally Posted by 26 may 1999

Hizzy you can buy the shirt here...

www.fc-utd.co.uk

And from next season you can watch LIVE and recorded games and highlights here

www.fcum.tv

Ta very muchly!....

mickthered · 13th June 2007, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Brad Cantona

Glazer defends his price rises partly on subsidies to the kids... I just find it strange that when FCUM are supposed to stand against the commercialism and all that aspect that's infiltrated the game, they couldn't make a good stand of releasing a shirt for say £15.

I'm not sure I was beating FCUM over the head about the amount they make on gate receipts, if they bring it in through supporters who want to watch, fair play that's the point of football, having people turn up and watch the game live. Evidently it distorts the competition, simply a fact of life

I'm not a great believer of the form of democracy we have in this country, a point raised earlier in this thread I believe. We're about to led by an unelected leader, where's the democracy there? Nor does everybodies vote count. Nor do people have enough say in the way they are governed, every half decade they get a say, from a limited choice, and the selections are all middle / high class candidates who live in their own bubble world. That system should be no defender of the FCUM approach! Personally, I'd prefer a single club owner, who supports the club, is sensible not putting the club at risk, and doesn't rip the supporters off. I see far more problems with the supporter owned approach

£11 Infants
£17 Juniors

Brad · 14th June 2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by mickthered

£11 Infants
£17 Juniors

Thats a good start. But why can't the adult shirt price be cheaper? It's the same people buying the shirts, it aint £11 of the infants cash is it!

NewtonHeathFC · 14th June 2007, 05:00

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Originally Posted by 26 may 1999

www.fcum.tv

thats awesome, can i catch pre-season too ?

mickthered · 14th June 2007, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Brad Cantona

Thats a good start. But why can't the adult shirt price be cheaper? It's the same people buying the shirts, it aint £11 of the infants cash is it!

the adult shirt is priced at £28 because it subsidises the price of the kids shirts
if that was to be made it cheaper it would push the price of the others up

Brad · 14th June 2007, 11:38

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Originally Posted by mickthered

the adult shirt is priced at £28 because it subsidises the price of the kids shirts
if that was to be made it cheaper it would push the price of the others up

Yes so you said, but as I said, it's the same person buying the shirt in many cases

I'm sure FCUM could if they wished sell that adult shirt for £20 and still keep the others at their current prices. And would have sent a true message that stand against all that is wrong with football today. And one of the things wrong with football today is the cost to the fan

fadas · 14th June 2007, 11:41

Oh fuck off, what a tedious load of old shite.

Brad · 14th June 2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by fadas

Oh fuck off, what a tedious load of old shite.

Quit producing it then and leave us in peace

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Hizzy Youth Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On the run from Dartmoor with Pappa Smurf! Posts: 437	Where can I buy this new homeshirt??..... I live in Italy and getting home to the UK is a rare event!. I left Salford just as the Glazer takeover had happened and was I really quite positive about the forming of FCUoM and their stance regarding 'capitalism', but sadly haven't had much press about it over here, would really like to get more info about club and follow the progress for the 07/08 season.....any suggestions??

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fadas Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,465	Oh fuck off, what a tedious load of old shite.