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Old 12th January 2009, 20:41   #1 (permalink)
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Munich taunts land player in trouble

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/ne...nt_allegation/

Player faces action over death-taunt allegation

A FOOTBALL player is facing disciplinary action after allegedly taunting fans by mocking the death of 23 people in an air crash.
John Lawless, aged 26, who plays for Merseyside side Marine FC, was given an official police warning at half time in a match against Unibond League rivals FC United of Manchester at Gigg Lane, Bury, on December 20.
While taking a corner at the end of the ground in which most of the 2,122 spectators were gathered, Mr Lawless was seen to wave his arms to make an aeroplane gesture in an apparent reference to the Munich air disaster in 1958.
The crash killed eight players of Manchester United - the sister club of FC United. Three Manchester United staff and eight journalists also died.
Mr Lawless’s taunt led to uproar in the stadium and stewards had to prevent several fans from going onto the pitch.
At half-time, officers from Greater Manchester Police told Mr Lawless and his teammate Shaun Tuck, who was also seen to make the gesture, that they would be arrested if they continued to offend supporters.
After the game, it came to light that Mr Lawless was a member of social networking website Facebook and his profile showed he was a member of an interest group called Munich 58 Was The Best Thing Ever. He has since left the group.
Referee John Corkhill included the incident in his match report, which prompted Unibond League officials to report the matter to the Football Association (FA).
Football intelligence officer, PC Tony Brown, said: “Offensive behaviour will not be tolerated and it is testimony to the swift actions of the officers at the match that this situation was dealt with quickly and without any further incidents.”
An FA spokesman said: “We did receive reports from the match referee and we are investigating.”
FC United general manager Andy Walsh said: “We will have to see what the outcome of that investigation is.
“I would like to praise the professional approach of the matchday stewards and police who moved quickly to deal with the incident in a responsible way so problems were kept to a minimum and I want to say ‘thanks’ to FC United fans who did not rise to the bait.”
Marine FC chairman Paul Leary said: “We have received a written enquiry from the FA regarding allegations made against our players Shaun Tuck and John Lawless with regard to alleged use of gestures at the game of FC Utd of Manchester.
“The club has responded to the FA in writing and has also spoken to the players regarding the complaints.
“The two players have also been written to by the FA and they too have responded in writing.
“Both the club and the players are cooperating fully with the enquiry by an officer of the FA.
“Marine FC is not prepared to further comment upon the matter as it is being dealt with by the FA.”
The matter is likely to come before the FA’s regulatory commission, which will consider the referee’s report and decide if a charge should be brought.
Mr Lawless would then have about one week to respond to any charge.
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Old 12th January 2009, 20:46   #2 (permalink)
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fucking wanker, i hope he gets a life time ban. Lets try and get his details and publish them on the web, make him shit his undies with fear.
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Old 12th January 2009, 21:41   #3 (permalink)
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Old 12th January 2009, 21:43   #4 (permalink)
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he's a scouser not showing an ounce of class; wow that's a surprise!
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Old 12th January 2009, 21:47   #5 (permalink)
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Someone please move this to the Manchester United forum, so it'll come up on the welcome page. This matter afterall is about united and scum bags like him should be exposed and this should be given the right amount of attention!
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Old 12th January 2009, 23:29   #6 (permalink)
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Someone please move this to the Manchester United forum, so it'll come up on the welcome page. This matter afterall is about united and scum bags like him should be exposed and this should be given the right amount of attention!
To right mate was just gonna say that. This is terrible the stewards should have let the fans get to the scouse bastard.
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Old 12th January 2009, 23:40   #7 (permalink)
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shouldnt be too hard to identify. Someone'll know someone who knows him on facebook
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Old 13th January 2009, 06:39   #8 (permalink)
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Old 13th January 2009, 07:29   #9 (permalink)
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http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/ne...nt_allegation/

Player faces action over death-taunt allegation

A FOOTBALL player is facing disciplinary action after allegedly taunting fans by mocking the death of 23 people in an air crash.
John Lawless, aged 26, who plays for Merseyside side Marine FC, was given an official police warning at half time in a match against Unibond League rivals FC United of Manchester at Gigg Lane, Bury, on December 20.
He'll soon be known as John Jobless.
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Old 13th January 2009, 12:38   #10 (permalink)
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why isnt this on the main page/forum?
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Old 13th January 2009, 12:47   #11 (permalink)
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Think I have found the shithouse on facebook aswell

His profile picture has a football match on it, Marine and a team in Celtic's colours

Have a look - hes in the Manchester Network
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Old 13th January 2009, 13:14   #12 (permalink)
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Fucking scouse twat
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Old 13th January 2009, 14:38   #13 (permalink)
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John Lawless:



He looks like a fucking retard!
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Old 13th January 2009, 20:26   #14 (permalink)
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John Lawless:



He looks like a fucking retard!
you mean he looks like a scouser?
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Old 13th January 2009, 21:41   #15 (permalink)
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www.marinefc.com - they have a forum, FCUoM has already posted his thoughts and an article from the local Bury paper about the incident - this should be in the main forum
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Old 13th January 2009, 22:25   #16 (permalink)
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Marine FC announces that contract player John Lawless has today left the Club and his contract has been cancelled by agreement of both parties
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Old 13th January 2009, 22:29   #17 (permalink)
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Good on the club.
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Old 14th January 2009, 01:16   #18 (permalink)
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Well done Marine.
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Old 14th January 2009, 01:20   #19 (permalink)
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Seems this has been well dealt with by everyone involved.
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Old 14th January 2009, 01:25   #20 (permalink)
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a poor little baby child is born in the ghetto,
And his mother cries,
cos if there is one thing she don't need,
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Old 14th January 2009, 09:28   #21 (permalink)
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Hypocritical cunt, I see a post on rawk referring to him wearing a HJC wristband.
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Old 14th January 2009, 10:26   #22 (permalink)
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It's worth pointing out that Marine would appear to be a great little, friendly club who have been great towards FC and I'm glad they have taken this seriously and dealt with it properly.

Even if they're scousers!
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Old 14th January 2009, 10:36   #23 (permalink)
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What an utter idiot. Did he really think he was going to get away with it ?
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Hypocritical cunt, I see a post on rawk referring to him wearing a HJC wristband.
What is the reaction from RAWK on this?
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Old 14th January 2009, 18:47   #25 (permalink)
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Good to see Marine have taken such strong action.
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Old 14th January 2009, 19:46   #26 (permalink)
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Good to see Marine have taken such strong action.
Yesterday, Australian time, I was comparing the Spurs fans chanting against Sol Campbell with John Lawless.

According to the BBC "The FA said it would ban for life any fans it could prove were involved". I guess that some involved were caught up in the mob mentality rather than ringleaders. One was thirteen and several others under eighteen. Are they now facing life bans?

If so, what is an appropriate punishment for an adult player who make similarly offensive gestures without following the mob?

Will the FA give him a lifetime ban?
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Yesterday, Australian time, I was comparing the Spurs fans chanting against Sol Campbell with John Lawless.

According to the BBC "The FA said it would ban for life any fans it could prove were involved". I guess that some involved were caught up in the mob mentality rather than ringleaders. One was thirteen and several others under eighteen. Are they now facing life bans?

If so, what is an appropriate punishment for an adult player who make similarly offensive gestures without following the mob?

Will the FA give him a lifetime ban?
Only if its a united player.
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Old 14th January 2009, 19:50   #28 (permalink)
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what a horrible little cunt
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What makes it worse is that it must have been premeditated if the rumours are true that he was also wearing a tshirt with Munich 58 and the manager made him take it off before the game
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What makes it worse is that it must have been premeditated if the rumours are true that he was also wearing a tshirt with Munich 58 and the manager made him take it off before the game
That really is shocking!

Did anyone go to the match and see it?
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That really is shocking!

Did anyone go to the match and see it?
Was at the game but from where I was couldnt see anything that happened although have seen it on line
As for the tshirt a few different people did mention it but dont know if its the truth or not though
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Was at the game but from where I was couldnt see anything that happened although have seen it on line
As for the tshirt a few different people did mention it but dont know if its the truth or not though


Not very clear but you can see it. If the teeshirt thing is true its absolutely disgusting. However, it does sound like a bit of a rumour to me.
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What is the reaction from RAWK on this?
Couldn't find anything last time I checked, the HJC post was a year or so ago.
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Old 15th January 2009, 09:13   #34 (permalink)
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Typical RAWK whitewash.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/...huIGxhd2xlc3Mi
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I was there. Missed the corner (on the video) as I couldn't see it from where I was.

However after a goal another player ran back to the half way line with his arms out (I don't know if this was before or after), this hasn't been mentioned much.

A couple of the lads I was with said "did he just imitate a plane?" and we all decided it was in our head.

I missed the near riot as we were sat right at the other end of the ground near the away fans.
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I was there. Missed the corner (on the video) as I couldn't see it from where I was.

However after a goal another player ran back to the half way line with his arms out (I don't know if this was before or after), this hasn't been mentioned much.

A couple of the lads I was with said "did he just imitate a plane?" and we all decided it was in our head.

I missed the near riot as we were sat right at the other end of the ground near the away fans.
You must have been almost sat next to me then
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Old 15th January 2009, 17:13   #37 (permalink)
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www.marinefc.com - they have a forum, FCUoM has already posted his thoughts and an article from the local Bury paper about the incident - this should be in the main forum
It's disappointing to see that there seems to have been Hillsborough and Heysel chants coming from large numbers of the FC fans, if the people on that forum are to be believed (and they seem fairly reasonable).

I haven't lived in Manchester since before the Glazers took over, but I always thought I'd have enjoyed going to FC matches. If that's the sort of songs being sung, I think I'd rather not.
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It's disappointing to see that there seems to have been Hillsborough and Heysel chants coming from large numbers of the FC fans, if the people on that forum are to be believed (and they seem fairly reasonable).

I haven't lived in Manchester since before the Glazers took over, but I always thought I'd have enjoyed going to FC matches. If that's the sort of songs being sung, I think I'd rather not.
Well as someone who was there I think you will find out that there was no Hillsborough and Heysel chants
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It's disappointing to see that there seems to have been Hillsborough and Heysel chants coming from large numbers of the FC fans, if the people on that forum are to be believed (and they seem fairly reasonable).

I haven't lived in Manchester since before the Glazers took over, but I always thought I'd have enjoyed going to FC matches. If that's the sort of songs being sung, I think I'd rather not.
They're alluding to the singing of "Murderers" and "we won it 3 times" which happens at OT as well. Having said that both chants were only done briefly as there are 100's of other scouse songs to sing.

No Hillsborough or Heysel chants were made.
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