Ok then. Where do you stand.

heightmassive · 8th February 2006, 11:20

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i think he was saying hed rather not have them there,

Where on earth did he say anything to suggest that?

An Extremely Boring Man · 8th February 2006, 11:21

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Originally Posted by heightmassive

Understand that, ManchesterBoy was saying that they were issues that didn't affect him, I was trying to show him that Fergie had shown concern about the situation. He had urged United fans to 'get involved'.

And In hindsight, maybe he should have kept his mouth shut about it.

But, the real issue here is not actually what Sir Alex has said and not said, IMO. There is a anti-Fergie brigade out there amongst United fans, who would twist anything he says or do and use it against him. It does United fans no favours, nor the club.

Judge Sir Alex on what he does in his job, not what he says.

MANCHESTER BOY · 8th February 2006, 11:22

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Originally Posted by heightmassive

Where on earth did he say anything to suggest that?

the fact that before hand he was one of the main protesters from inside the club.

may1999 · 8th February 2006, 11:24

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

And In hindsight, maybe he should have kept his mouth shut about it.

But, the real issue here is not actually what Sir Alex has said and not said, IMO. There is a anti-Fergie brigade out there amongst United fans, who would twist anything he says or do and use it against him. It does United fans no favours, nor the club.

Judge Sir Alex on what he does in his job, not what he says.

Well he hasnt done much lately has he

An Extremely Boring Man · 8th February 2006, 11:26

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Well he hasnt done much lately has he

Not if you demand trophies galore every season, no.

But I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have in charge, who would have done better.

may1999 · 8th February 2006, 11:28

Do we not demand trophys every year

I think we do

Do you not demand them AEBM??

An Extremely Boring Man · 8th February 2006, 11:31

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Do we not demand trophys every year

I think we do

Do you not demand them AEBM??

No. Simple as.

may1999 · 8th February 2006, 11:37

Fair enough

You miserable get

An Extremely Boring Man · 8th February 2006, 11:38

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Originally Posted by may1999

Fair enough

You miserable get

Why does that make me a miserable get?

mickthered · 8th February 2006, 11:40

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

Why does that make me a miserable get?

Because you dont aggree with hhim

blythy · 8th February 2006, 11:40

I'm with GroundSide on this one. It's not United.

may1999 · 8th February 2006, 11:40

Correct mick

An Extremely Boring Man · 8th February 2006, 11:43

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Because you dont aggree with hhim

Bugger

MANCHESTER BOY · 8th February 2006, 11:57

Fergies doing a decent job. and AEBM is correct for not demanding trophies every year. a style of play we can be proud of, and a bit of passion on the pitch is all i want.

GroundSide · 8th February 2006, 14:04

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I'm with GroundSide on this one. It's not United.

I was all for it

You told me not go.

blythy · 8th February 2006, 14:12

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Originally Posted by GroundSide

I was all for it

You told me not go.

Remember our little talk?

You just do as I say, without the moaning - and we'll all get along fine.

GroundSide · 8th February 2006, 14:18

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Remember our little talk?

You just do as I say, without the moaning - and we'll all get along fine.

That was the talk just before you shoved a broken becks bottle into my face and told me never to go near gigg lane.

Bully.

blythy · 8th February 2006, 14:20

It wasn't becks, it was Stella.

Give me some credit.

GroundSide · 8th February 2006, 14:23

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It wasn't becks, it was Stella.

Give me some credit.

It was my bottle of beer you smashed up.

You owe me one for that

blythy · 8th February 2006, 14:23

Well, I wouldn't waste my own now, would I?

26 may 1999 · 8th February 2006, 16:46

It's all about price and atmosphere for me...

They have already trated me like a mug for years.

No more.

topper · 9th February 2006, 23:35

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Originally Posted by 26 may 1999

It's all about price and atmosphere for me...

They have already trated me like a mug for years.

No more.

they were right

Shane Bluck · 10th February 2006, 01:57

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

Judge Sir Alex on what he does in his job, not what he says.

I would like to do that, and I have defended him to the max against the anti Fergie brigade, however his comments backing the Glazers was like a smack in the face, I would be happy to see him leave now.

Stobzilla · 16th February 2006, 02:07

So what have the glazers done that was particularly wrong? apart from obviously backing the manager in the transfer market and staying out of things that they could of stuck their noses in?

They have kept quiet and are now trying to run the club as well as they can...im all for that...i might not of agreed with the debt aspect of things...but that's the risk you take being a PLC and i didnt see many new clubs being formed when THAT happened and the situation we have now was the potential danger.

But i know where people are coming from with the FC argument as well, and i fully support anything that wants to be run in the spirit of Manchester United F.C as it was known then.

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 02:50

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So what have the glazers done that was particularly wrong? apart from obviously backing the manager in the transfer market and staying out of things that they could of stuck their noses in?

They have kept quiet and are now trying to run the club as well as they can...im all for that...i might not of agreed with the debt aspect of things...but that's the risk you take being a PLC and i didnt see many new clubs being formed when THAT happened and the situation we have now was the potential danger.

But i know where people are coming from with the FC argument as well, and i fully support anything that wants to be run in the spirit of Manchester United F.C as it was known then.

Why does everyone keep harping on about "but thats what happens when you become a PLC"

The PLC made us no more open to a takeover than being a private company. If anything it made it harder.

Edwards was going to sell United anyhow. All he wanted was the right money, and had Micheal Knighton got his figures right, he would have done what Glazer has done.

THe club is for sale now, as long as the right money is put forward. Everyone has a price. Glazer found out what Coolmore wanted and he agreed to pay it. If someone comes along and offers the right money GLazer will sell up.

Being a PLC is not the reason United are in the shit with the debts. The reason is purely Glazer offered way more than he can afford, and he is expecting the fans to repay it. He could have done the same if the club was a private company.

Wibble · 16th February 2006, 04:19

A private compnay could have told him to sling his hook no matter what the price. A PLC can't.

ManUinOz · 16th February 2006, 06:49

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Originally Posted by may1999

Rio is a money grabbing overpriced cunt

He should have been left to rot in the reserves

No one likes a greedy cunt

We all have our favourite players, we all have those we don't like. Speaking like that about anyone who pulls on the shirt is a disgrace IMO.

jasonrh · 16th February 2006, 06:52

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The PLC made us no more open to a takeover than being a private company. If anything it made it harder.

fred in "knows fuck all about business" shocker.

andy27457 · 16th February 2006, 06:57

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Originally Posted by fredthered

Why does everyone keep harping on about "but thats what happens when you become a PLC"

The PLC made us no more open to a takeover than being a private company. If anything it made it harder.

Edwards was going to sell United anyhow. All he wanted was the right money, and had Micheal Knighton got his figures right, he would have done what Glazer has done.

THe club is for sale now, as long as the right money is put forward. Everyone has a price. Glazer found out what Coolmore wanted and he agreed to pay it. If someone comes along and offers the right money GLazer will sell up.

Being a PLC is not the reason United are in the shit with the debts. The reason is purely Glazer offered way more than he can afford, and he is expecting the fans to repay it. He could have done the same if the club was a private company.

How do you know he can't afford it? Do you have secret access to his bank accounts?

topper · 16th February 2006, 07:35

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Originally Posted by MANCHESTER BOY

percentage wise. i personaly have nothing against FCUM fans who still love united, but the ones who damage OT i dont like. i am up for the MRE singing under the boardwalk, but dont like the anti-rio / Fergie songs.

in terms of percentage where do you FCUM fans stand between united and FCUM.

Where do I stand ??

anywhere I can at OT ( OK then sit )

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 08:14

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

fred in "knows fuck all about business" shocker.

Its a fact, the club was on the market PRE PLC.......

Or was Micheall Knighton a figment of my imagination.

It is as easy to buy a private company as it is to buy a PLC...

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may1999 No relation to 26th Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: I am an FC fan.......I am mancunian Posts: 3,424	Do we not demand trophys every year I think we do Do you not demand them AEBM??

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may1999 No relation to 26th Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: I am an FC fan.......I am mancunian Posts: 3,424	Correct mick

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MANCHESTER BOY Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Barely old enough to smoke... Posts: 3,712	Fergies doing a decent job. and AEBM is correct for not demanding trophies every year. a style of play we can be proud of, and a bit of passion on the pitch is all i want.

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blythy First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: AWOL. Posts: 24,578	It wasn't becks, it was Stella. Give me some credit.

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blythy First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: AWOL. Posts: 24,578	Well, I wouldn't waste my own now, would I?

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26 may 1999 Striker Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MUFCUM...Manc-Union. Posts: 21,110	It's all about price and atmosphere for me... They have already trated me like a mug for years. No more.

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Stobzilla Official Team Perv Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Markus.Land - Where Markus logic prevails. Posts: 3,522	So what have the glazers done that was particularly wrong? apart from obviously backing the manager in the transfer market and staying out of things that they could of stuck their noses in? They have kept quiet and are now trying to run the club as well as they can...im all for that...i might not of agreed with the debt aspect of things...but that's the risk you take being a PLC and i didnt see many new clubs being formed when THAT happened and the situation we have now was the potential danger. But i know where people are coming from with the FC argument as well, and i fully support anything that wants to be run in the spirit of Manchester United F.C as it was known then.

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Wibble Teeth like a reindeer. Hung like a horse. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ingadus Speramus Posts: 34,680	A private compnay could have told him to sling his hook no matter what the price. A PLC can't.