Ok then. Where do you stand.

Kofi Annan · 16th February 2006, 20:33

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Originally Posted by fredthered

Its not a cunty phrase at all. Its very relevant to FC United, and something we hold very dear.

If you dont like it, then go somewhere where you wont find it mentioned. LIke www.manutd.com

You could have picked a better U2 song to pilfer from. Like "Sunday Bloody Sunday."

FC UNITED - "BODIES STREWN ACROSS THE FLOOR"

Kofi Annan · 16th February 2006, 20:34

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Originally Posted by fredthered

go somewhere where you wont find it mentioned. LIke www.manutd.com

Actually, don't you think that a cunty phrase like "One Love" is precisely the type of thing that the marketing men at manutd.com would latch on to?

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

You could have picked a better U2 song to pilfer from. Like "Sunday Bloody Sunday."

FC UNITED - "BODIES STREWN ACROSS THE FLOOR"

There are usually only bodies strewn across the floor when we fall over drunk.

If we was using a song by U2, then it would have to be Pride in the name of Love, not something I guess you would be familiar with but nevertheless, its close to FC........

Kofi Annan · 16th February 2006, 20:38

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Originally Posted by fredthered

There are usually only bodies strewn across the floor when we fall over drunk.

If we was using a song by U2, then it would have to be Pride in the name of Love, not something I guess you would be familiar with but nevertheless, its close to FC........

So basically anything radio-friendly with trite mass-appealing sentiment will do?

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

Actually, don't you think that a cunty phrase like "One Love" is precisely the type of thing that the marketing men at manutd.com would latch on to?

Erm, dont want to spoil your little illusion here, but the term ONE LOVE was actually something started at OT, by the fans.

So if its so cunty, perhaps you might want to go and tell those that started it, which is about half the Stretford end....

Kofi Annan · 16th February 2006, 20:41

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Originally Posted by fredthered

Erm, dont want to spoil your little illusion here, but the term ONE LOVE was actually something started at OT, by the fans.

So if its so cunty, perhaps you might want to go and tell those that started it, which is about half the Stretford end....

I don't care who started it. It's a twatty little phrase, a bland and lazy term to bandy around to evoke some half-hearted idea of unity. It's basically everything that I would have thought FCUM would be against.

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

So basically anything radio-friendly with trite mass-appealing sentiment will do?

I never suggested that FC should be linked to songs, you did. And as I have pointed out, your notion of where it came from is actually flawed, so therefore one can deduce one of two things

1) You are tryinig ( and failing dismally) to start an anti FC United argument
2) You are talking bollocks.

I shall give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to number 1.

But then again, to get to point 1 you would have to take point 2 first..

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

I don't care who started it. It's a twatty little phrase, a bland and lazy term to bandy around to evoke some half-hearted idea of unity. It's basically everything that I would have thought FCUM would be against.

But you dont know anything about FCUM, so how can you judge.

You dont even know where ONE UNITED started, so theres little hope of you knowing what FC UNited is all about is there......

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 20:45

A half hearted notion of unity...

Now call me Yianni if I am wrong, but for a team called UNITED, the idea of showing Unity, is something that I think should be encouraged.....

Kofi Annan · 16th February 2006, 20:54

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Originally Posted by fredthered

A half hearted notion of unity...

Now call me Yianni if I am wrong, but for a team called UNITED, the idea of showing Unity, is something that I think should be encouraged.....

You're using the phrase ONE LOVE as some kind of bridge between MUFC and FCUM. And it's shit. It means fuck all, particularly since there's two clubs involved here. It's a lazy way of trying to explain your allegiances. And I just hate the way it looks. Very New Labour.

26 may 1999 · 16th February 2006, 21:24

Is it fuck new labour!

We're the bnp.

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

You're using the phrase ONE LOVE as some kind of bridge between MUFC and FCUM. And it's shit. It means fuck all, particularly since there's two clubs involved here. It's a lazy way of trying to explain your allegiances. And I just hate the way it looks. Very New Labour.

It means fuck all to you, because you dont understand FC United.

And as for it being lazy, I guess maybe you are right, but you are going to struggle to find someone who will write on a flag

"I am still a Man United supporter, but I refuse to pay into the club whilst Malcolm Glazer is at Old Trafford. In view of that I shall now join fellow Man United supporters and form our own club, which will provide those that wont go to OT with a chance to remain close to one another, and to those that still go to OT, whilst not having to pay the extortionate prices that are being charged by premiership clubs".

Oh, and as a sidethought, ONE UNITED is not a FCUM related statement, its one used by Man United supporters, so can you explain who they are trying to explain their allegiances to when they use the phrase.

The whole point you ignore, is that its a phrase used by MAN UNITED supporters, and as MAN UNITED supporters, we have just taken what we have used for many years and carried with us to FC United.

If you dont like the phrase "ONE LOVE" then go onto the Man United board and whine at them about it.......

fredthered · 16th February 2006, 21:45

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Originally Posted by 26 may 1999

Is it fuck new labour!

We're the bnp.

Hes saving that one for his piece de resistance......

redfan · 17th February 2006, 03:14

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

I don't care who started it. It's a twatty little phrase, a bland and lazy term to bandy around to evoke some half-hearted idea of unity. It's basically everything that I would have thought FCUM would be against.

You just don't have a fucking clue.

fredthered · 17th February 2006, 08:53

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Originally Posted by redfan

You just don't have a fucking clue.

You put this so much better than me..

Why didnt I think about putting it like that.....

Kofi Annan · 17th February 2006, 10:36

It's especially twatty when you're trying to apply it to TWO different clubs.

redfan · 17th February 2006, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

It's especially twatty when you're trying to apply it to TWO different clubs.

Just read my post, then when you have a grasp of what we are talking about say something constructive, this time from the mouth and not your arse.

17th February 2006, 14:32

You can't stand, unless you go to FC United.

ladybarnred · 17th February 2006, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

It's especially twatty when you're trying to apply it to TWO different clubs.

ASPACKSAYZWHAT?

Here is the point - .

You're missing it by miles!

Kofi Annan · 17th February 2006, 19:20

I think anyone who forms a breakaway club and calls it "United" is missing the point.

ladybarnred · 17th February 2006, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

I think anyone who forms a breakaway club and calls it "United" is missing the point.

United is "more than one thing together"....

united |yo??n?tid| adjective joined together politically, for a common purpose, or by common feelings

So having one thing called United is wrong using your fucked up logic.

Kofi Annan · 18th February 2006, 00:12

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Originally Posted by ladybarnred

United is "more than one thing together"....

united |yo??n?tid| adjective joined together politically, for a common purpose, or by common feelings

So having one thing called United is wrong using your fucked up logic.

Manchester United is the collective name for the joined-together organization. A football club is a collection of fans, players, staff, etc. All united as one. Even clubs not called "United" are technically united.

But a breakaway group from MUFC cannot be considered united with Manchester United. Because it isn't. It's separate. FCUM doesn't have a common purpose with MUFC otherwise they wouldn't have split off from it. You lot felt that the club didn't do it for you anymore so you made your own. Only a fool could say you're still united with MUFC. You may all be united together in your FCUM, but to blather on about "One Love" rings hollow. Unless your "One Love" is FCUM. Which leaves MUFC where...?

redfan · 18th February 2006, 00:48

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

Manchester United is the collective name for the joined-together organization. A football club is a collection of fans, players, staff, etc. All united as one. Even clubs not called "United" are technically united.

But a breakaway group from MUFC cannot be considered united with Manchester United. Because it isn't. It's separate. FCUM doesn't have a common purpose with MUFC otherwise they wouldn't have split off from it. You lot felt that the club didn't do it for you anymore so you made your own. Only a fool could say you're still united with MUFC. You may all be united together in your FCUM, but to blather on about "One Love" rings hollow. Unless your "One Love" is FCUM. Which leaves MUFC where...?

And you are still wrong, now let me explain from my point of view. I have supported Manchester United for over fifty years but for the past few years, mainly the inception of the PL and the involvement of Sky tv, the need for greed and the exploitation of the common football fan I got just a little pissed off. Along comes a swanky yank, plunges United into debt and then expects the fans to cough up even more money to keep us afloat, but not out of my pocket, but at this stage I could not afford to attend OT anymore, I withdrew my membership and just let him get on with it. Then along comes something I could get into, FC, a club formed by fans like myself who had also become disillusioned like myself for whatever reason, FC a club owned by the fans and Manchester United fans at that. Now the bit you can't understand, we are still in love with Manchester United, it's in the blood but now we have our own team that we CAN afford to watch, we got the best of both, and you, you don't have a clue.

jasonrh · 18th February 2006, 02:21

Don't bother with Kofi. He's a WUM.

Kofi Annan · 18th February 2006, 02:33

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

Don't bother with Kofi. He's a WUM.

Oh, piss off. I am trying to have a debate with them here about the meaning of the word "United". It has been a good debate so far and I would like to continue it. And you are here interfering and secretly cursing the Gods because you don't have the power to ban people.

It's wannabe-mods like you that make power struggles and little tiffs happen in forums.

Now let us get back to discussing football, thanks. Go and call a Newbie a "spastic," power-hungry loser.

Kofi Annan · 18th February 2006, 02:36

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Originally Posted by redfan

And you are still wrong, now let me explain from my point of view. I have supported Manchester United for over fifty years but for the past few years, mainly the inception of the PL and the involvement of Sky tv, the need for greed and the exploitation of the common football fan I got just a little pissed off. Along comes a swanky yank, plunges United into debt and then expects the fans to cough up even more money to keep us afloat, but not out of my pocket, but at this stage I could not afford to attend OT anymore, I withdrew my membership and just let him get on with it. Then along comes something I could get into, FC, a club formed by fans like myself who had also become disillusioned like myself for whatever reason, FC a club owned by the fans and Manchester United fans at that. Now the bit you can't understand, we are still in love with Manchester United, it's in the blood but now we have our own team that we CAN afford to watch, we got the best of both, and you, you don't have a clue.

But to me it seems a stretch to try and link FCUM to Manchester United just because you feel like it. What if I decided to form my own breakaway club called "FC United Nations" and announced to everyone that I was a part of Manchester United? Would you recognise that alliance? Would you regard my club on the same level as FCUM? Would you consider me a part of the "One Love" family? And if not, why not? It's the same principle, surely.

I don't understand how a group of fans can make their own club and then say it's part of the existing club without anyone actually officially recognising that.

jasonrh · 18th February 2006, 02:56

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

Oh, piss off. I am trying to have a debate with them here about the meaning of the word "United". It has been a good debate so far and I would like to continue it. And you are here interfering and secretly cursing the Gods because you don't have the power to ban people.

It's wannabe-mods like you that make power struggles and little tiffs happen in forums.

Now let us get back to discussing football, thanks. Go and call a Newbie a "spastic," power-hungry loser.

If you don't like FCUM, you should just stay out of their forum. It is beyond fucking tiresome for little shits to think it makes them big to have a pop at FCUofM. Is it not perhaps possible that the reason they have their own forum is because everyone was fed up of all the infighting that has been going on for nearly a year?

They believe what they believe. You're not changing them.

So you don't like them. That's fine. They don't like you either.

PS. "spastic".

redfan · 18th February 2006, 03:20

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

But to me it seems a stretch to try and link FCUM to Manchester United just because you feel like it. What if I decided to form my own breakaway club called "FC United Nations" and announced to everyone that I was a part of Manchester United? Would you recognise that alliance? Would you regard my club on the same level as FCUM? Would you consider me a part of the "One Love" family? And if not, why not? It's the same principle, surely.

I don't understand how a group of fans can make their own club and then say it's part of the existing club without anyone actually officially recognising that.

We are linked through our love of Manchester United and not through FC, FC is our club but we are still Manchester United fans. I for one do not consider FCUoM as an extension of Manchester United but I am a fan of both. As for you starting your own club and linking yourself with both your new club and Manchester United, that's fine by me, and I would understand where your coming from.

ladybarnred · 18th February 2006, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Kofi Annan

I don't understand how a group of fans can make their own club and then say it's part of the existing club without anyone actually officially recognising that.

This is the heart of the problem. English football clubs were formed by groups workers (in United's case railway workers) to have a laugh and play football. That ethos has gone and now it's all business.... fine. But no-one OFFICIALLY has to allow anyone else to form a link between two clubs, and un-officially FC fans are 99.9% Manchester United fans... so there is a link there if you like it or not. Obv. you think we're a bunch of traitorus cunts, but not only are we all United fans but whatever their age each FC fan has been a United fan all his (or her) life. You will never meet a bunch of more commited fans.

In fact we're in a "no-win" situation because loads of reds think we're traitors and another chunk think, we think, we're "

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