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Old 19th May 2008, 10:14   #1 (permalink)
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Now that Pique is (allegedly) on his way, it would be nice to know we've got some decent young central defenders still at the club.

Cathcart was one of the hottest prospects in the academy, the season before last but seems to have slipped off the radar this season. Anyone got any update?
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Old 19th May 2008, 11:12   #2 (permalink)
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Now that Pique is (allegedly) on his way, it would be nice to know we've got some decent young central defenders still at the club.

Cathcart was one of the hottest prospects in the academy, the season before last but seems to have slipped off the radar this season. Anyone got any update?


Came back from Belgium with an injury and has a series of niggles since, looked closer to his best form late in the season. We have had some quality CB come through last few seasons a couple of them better defenders than Pique and Cathcart is one of them. He is young for a defender and has plenty of time to develope. Chester is another who continues to develope, not as good on the ball as either Cathcart or Evans but is an out an out defender and loves a tackle.
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Old 19th May 2008, 11:17   #3 (permalink)
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Cathcart isn't fast and can't head like Vidic.

Sell him!
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Old 19th May 2008, 11:46   #4 (permalink)
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Cathcart isn't fast and can't head like Vidic.

Sell him!
If Cathcart has just a year left in his contract, doesn't want to sign and we get an offer for Ģ6 million. We may as well.
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Old 19th May 2008, 11:49   #5 (permalink)
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He's a great header of the ball, as it goes, and can play a bit too.
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:00   #6 (permalink)
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Cathcart isn't fast and can't head like Vidic.

Sell him!
Congratulations. You win the most spasticated post of the month award. Well done.
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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Came back from Belgium with an injury and has a series of niggles since, looked closer to his best form late in the season. We have had some quality CB come through last few seasons a couple of them better defenders than Pique and Cathcart is one of them. He is young for a defender and has plenty of time to develope. Chester is another who continues to develope, not as good on the ball as either Cathcart or Evans but is an out an out defender and loves a tackle.
Cheers.

When you talk about his good form at the end of the season, was this back in the Academy? How old is he anyway? Is he still in his teens?
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:03   #8 (permalink)
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Cheers.

When you talk about his good form at the end of the season, was this back in the Academy? How old is he anyway? Is he still in his teens?
He is 19 or nearly 19 if I am slightly mistaken. Still a couple of years away from the first team I reckon.
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:10   #9 (permalink)
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It's a great honor to follow in your footsteps and finally get my name on such an award.

And Cathcart is not a better header of the ball than Pique
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Cathcart isn't fast and can't head like Vidic.

Sell him!
I see what you did there. Clever.
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:22   #11 (permalink)
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Now that Pique is (allegedly) on his way, it would be nice to know we've got some decent young central defenders still at the club.
There's Evans but that's about it. Chester is decent but looks like Championship material to me. Matty James is highly rated but not yet 17. A bit slow and perhaps best as a DM. Who does that remind you of?
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:32   #12 (permalink)
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There's Evans but that's about it. Chester is decent but looks like Championship material to me. Matty James is highly rated but not yet 17. A bit slow and perhaps best as a DM. Who does that remind you of?
Cathcart >> James and Chester though, surely?
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:36   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know. Haven't seen him play since last year's youth cup final. He's had a frustrating season, not much doubt about that.
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Old 19th May 2008, 13:45   #14 (permalink)
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Cathcart definitely better than that pair, although this year has seen him tread water at best which isn't ideal. Chester could possibly 'do a Shawcross', similar type of defender.

James is a much better midfielder than centre-half. has only really played at the back for the academy because we lack out and out centre-backs there.
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Old 19th May 2008, 16:24   #15 (permalink)
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He was on the bench for a couple of league games a couple of seasons ago wasnīt he? He obviously has potential. With Pique leaving, I canīt see Evans leaving. It would be nice to see Cathcart given a chance also.
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Cheers.

When you talk about his good form at the end of the season, was this back in the Academy? How old is he anyway? Is he still in his teens?

He played in the reserves at the end of april begining of May and began to look more like last seasons player but then got another knock. I think he has great potential but he needs a good injury free pre-season and we might be able to judge better next year.
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Does David Gill's son still play CB for the youth team?
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Does David Gill's son still play CB for the youth team?
Yes, he's not very good...

Considering we've had a stready stream of strong centre backs through the academy lately they seem to have dried up, had a really bad season defensively.
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with the 90-minute rule and so on you go through periods where you have a dearth of good kids in one position and plenty in another. Reece Brown's looked good whenever he's stepped up to the U18's so we should be a bit stronger next year hopefully. Zeki Fryers in the year below as well, already an England U16 international.
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It's a great honor to follow in your footsteps and finally get my name on such an award.

And Cathcart is not a better header of the ball than Pique
Do fuck off. Pogue's the only poster on here good enough for me to actually bother to defend. You on the other hand are a former Hargreaves hating retard.
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Old 20th May 2008, 00:38   #21 (permalink)
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Do fuck off. Pogue's the only poster on here good enough for me to actually bother to defend. You on the other hand are a former Hargreaves hating retard.
Some people don't need lapdogs to defend them.
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They'll all go eventually, as long as Rio and Vidic are around, with Brown lurking just behind them, they'd probably follow the Pique route soon too.
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They'll all go eventually, as long as Rio and Vidic are around, with Brown lurking just behind them, they'd probably follow the Pique route soon too.
Got your crystal ball out, have you?

The likes of Cathcart and Evans are a decade younger than Rio and I can't see any reason why they won't play second fiddle for another few years. You don't leave a club like MUFC in a hurry.

Besides, we've been really lucky with Rio's fitness this season. If he had picked up a few more knocks, Pique would have got plenty of opportunities. As it is, he was only one game short of qualifying for a medal and could/should have had a decent run in the CC too.
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They'll all go eventually, as long as Rio and Vidic are around, with Brown lurking just behind them, they'd probably follow the Pique route soon too.
Not so sure about that. If they're any good they will break through.
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This Cathcart fella was on the subs sheet a few times late in the 07 season when the defenders injury crisis hit. Is he strictly a central defender or can he line up elsewhere? Is he another Gazza in that he'll be too short to play central defense in SAF's view and shunted elsewhere?
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his height isn't going to be an issue, he's comfortably over six foot. he's very much a centre-back as well.
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Very much a centre-back. Possibly good enough on the ball to play in midfield at the lower levels. I think he has even been used as an emergency striker in the ressies when chasing a goal - he's very good in the air.
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Now that Pique is (allegedly) on his way, it would be nice to know we've got some decent young central defenders still at the club.

Cathcart was one of the hottest prospects in the academy, the season before last but seems to have slipped off the radar this season. Anyone got any update?
He doesn't have a prayer with Brown and Evans around. Sorry
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Not so sure about that. If they're any good they will break through.
They wont. Brown with his experience wont be passed any time soon. Plus Evans is there too. Then there is Rio and Vida. Talk of mission impossible!
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Old 25th May 2008, 18:11   #30 (permalink)
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He doesn't have a prayer with Brown and Evans around. Sorry
agreed , but is he good enough to make it ..

could we make 3-4 m by selling him , or atleast 2m like we got for shawcross
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