Long list of academy graduates

Bammy · 20th March 2008, 01:26

Nevland moved there in January and came on as a sub against us a couple of weeks ago.

Mr. MUJAC · 20th March 2008, 22:46

United's is far superior to anyone else in Britain. The statistics show that United have introduced over 100 players to first team football since the start of organised Youth football in the early 1950's.

Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham do not compare. Funnily enough, Manchester City is second on the all time youth table with Chelsea.

West Ham have introduced some fine footballers and have a good youth set-up with a good historical pedigree. But they are not the best in Britain.

After looking at my records I discovered the following results about teams Youth Policies......

I looked at all the top teams and their records in producing kids through their own system.....I only looked at players since the early 1950's as structured systems only started at that point and also the introduction of the FA Youth Cup in 1952.

I only included players with over 70 league appearances as this roughly equates to two seasons of playing and you could arguably call them 'first team regulars'.....(although if you included every player, United's stats look even better)

I also did not include players like Lee Sharpe....who although coming through our system....was bought from Torquay..

The results came up as thus:

Manchester United - 54 players (one season out of top flight)
Chelsea - 37 players (10 seasons out of top flight)
Manchester City - 37 players (13 seasons out of top flight)
West Ham United - 36 players (11 seasons out of top flight)
Middlesbrough - 35 players (31 seasons out of top flight)
Arsenal - 32 players (all in Division One)
Everton - 30 players (all in Division One)
Charlton Athletic - 28 players (37 seasons out of top flight)
Tottenham Hotspur - 22 players (one season out of top flight)
Liverpool - 21 players (8 seasons out of top flight)
Newcastle United - 19 players (13 seasons out of top flight)

Other lower league teams like Crewe have a good record but they rarely keep their players.

Finally it is arguably easier to bring kids through in the lower divisions than in the top flight, so again our stats look impressive.

samabachan · 21st March 2008, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Mr. MUJAC

United's is far superior to anyone else in Britain. The statistics show that United have introduced over 100 players to first team football since the start of organised Youth football in the early 1950's.

Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham do not compare. Funnily enough, Manchester City is second on the all time youth table with Chelsea.

West Ham have introduced some fine footballers and have a good youth set-up with a good historical pedigree. But they are not the best in Britain.

After looking at my records I discovered the following results about teams Youth Policies......

I looked at all the top teams and their records in producing kids through their own system.....I only looked at players since the early 1950's as structured systems only started at that point and also the introduction of the FA Youth Cup in 1952.

I only included players with over 70 league appearances as this roughly equates to two seasons of playing and you could arguably call them 'first team regulars'.....(although if you included every player, United's stats look even better)

I also did not include players like Lee Sharpe....who although coming through our system....was bought from Torquay..

The results came up as thus:

Manchester United - 54 players (one season out of top flight)
Chelsea - 37 players (10 seasons out of top flight)
Manchester City - 37 players (13 seasons out of top flight)
West Ham United - 36 players (11 seasons out of top flight)
Middlesbrough - 35 players (31 seasons out of top flight)
Arsenal - 32 players (all in Division One)
Everton - 30 players (all in Division One)
Charlton Athletic - 28 players (37 seasons out of top flight)
Tottenham Hotspur - 22 players (one season out of top flight)
Liverpool - 21 players (8 seasons out of top flight)
Newcastle United - 19 players (13 seasons out of top flight)

Other lower league teams like Crewe have a good record but they rarely keep their players.

Finally it is arguably easier to bring kids through in the lower divisions than in the top flight, so again our stats look impressive.

Good man. I was counting on you to put this fool in his place.

jonnymee23 · 21st March 2008, 12:07

John Rankin, Kris Taylor, Adnan Ahmed? Who are they

Also where is Hussaine and Arthur Gomez those Middle Eastern players we had? Another one is Rincon, whatabout him, os he at Empol or somethin?

Mr. MUJAC · 21st March 2008, 14:11

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Originally Posted by jonnymee23

John Rankin, Kris Taylor, Adnan Ahmed? Who are they

Also where is Hussaine and Arthur Gomez those Middle Eastern players we had? Another one is Rincon, whatabout him, os he at Empol or somethin?

Rankin and Taylor came through our system.....the others did not!

PS18 · 22nd March 2008, 00:59

noticed Ahmed on Wikipedia was under the 'academy graduate' section on our reserves/academy page, not seen any record of him having ever been with us though (maybe he was with us very young?).

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20th March 2008, 01:26	#41 (permalink)
Bammy Youth Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 292	Nevland moved there in January and came on as a sub against us a couple of weeks ago.

20th March 2008, 22:46	#42 (permalink)
Mr. MUJAC Talent spotter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louis Rocca started it all... Posts: 1,929	United's is far superior to anyone else in Britain. The statistics show that United have introduced over 100 players to first team football since the start of organised Youth football in the early 1950's. Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham do not compare. Funnily enough, Manchester City is second on the all time youth table with Chelsea. West Ham have introduced some fine footballers and have a good youth set-up with a good historical pedigree. But they are not the best in Britain. After looking at my records I discovered the following results about teams Youth Policies...... I looked at all the top teams and their records in producing kids through their own system.....I only looked at players since the early 1950's as structured systems only started at that point and also the introduction of the FA Youth Cup in 1952. I only included players with over 70 league appearances as this roughly equates to two seasons of playing and you could arguably call them 'first team regulars'.....(although if you included every player, United's stats look even better) I also did not include players like Lee Sharpe....who although coming through our system....was bought from Torquay.. The results came up as thus: Manchester United - 54 players (one season out of top flight) Chelsea - 37 players (10 seasons out of top flight) Manchester City - 37 players (13 seasons out of top flight) West Ham United - 36 players (11 seasons out of top flight) Middlesbrough - 35 players (31 seasons out of top flight) Arsenal - 32 players (all in Division One) Everton - 30 players (all in Division One) Charlton Athletic - 28 players (37 seasons out of top flight) Tottenham Hotspur - 22 players (one season out of top flight) Liverpool - 21 players (8 seasons out of top flight) Newcastle United - 19 players (13 seasons out of top flight) Other lower league teams like Crewe have a good record but they rarely keep their players. Finally it is arguably easier to bring kids through in the lower divisions than in the top flight, so again our stats look impressive.

21st March 2008, 12:07	#44 (permalink)
jonnymee23 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 672	John Rankin, Kris Taylor, Adnan Ahmed? Who are they Also where is Hussaine and Arthur Gomez those Middle Eastern players we had? Another one is Rincon, whatabout him, os he at Empol or somethin?

22nd March 2008, 00:59	#46 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 656	noticed Ahmed on Wikipedia was under the 'academy graduate' section on our reserves/academy page, not seen any record of him having ever been with us though (maybe he was with us very young?).