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Old 20th October 2011, 01:45   #1 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 01:51   #2 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 16:35   #3 (permalink)
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amos, vermijl, fornasier, m.keane, mcginty, brown, pogba, petrucci, cole, diouf, macheda.

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Old 20th October 2011, 16:42   #4 (permalink)
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Disappointing to see Brown get a game ahead of Morrison.

Guess it just relates to seniority.
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Old 20th October 2011, 17:03   #5 (permalink)
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Disappointing to see Brown get a game ahead of Morrison.

Guess it just relates to seniority.
Morrison hasn't played very much football this season, he's playing the last 20-30 mins of games to get his fitness back IMO.
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Old 20th October 2011, 17:18   #6 (permalink)
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Disappointing to see Brown get a game ahead of Morrison.

Guess it just relates to seniority.
in all fairness

amos, vermijl, fornasier, m.keane, mcginty, brown, pogba, petrucci, cole, diouf, macheda.

if you swap Morrison with Brown - that leaves us with 1 midfielder/attacker who is decent or more defensively. And even him (Pogba) is better going forward than backwards

Pogba, Petrucci, Cole, Morrison, Diouf and Macheda - that seems like a very unbalanced midfield.
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Old 20th October 2011, 18:11   #7 (permalink)
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Plus Morrison was tweeting about a possible broken toe the other day, assuming if he's on the bench it was just a stubbed toe - but might still be a factor
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Old 20th October 2011, 18:43   #8 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 18:49   #9 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 18:53   #10 (permalink)
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Re Morrison it seems they are bringing him back from injury slowly. The actual nature of the injury hasn't been disclosed as far as I know.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:00   #11 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:01   #12 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:11   #13 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:18   #14 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:19   #15 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:24   #16 (permalink)
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Macheda with some good play, turns the defenders and crosses it into the box. No one to meet it.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:25   #17 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:31   #18 (permalink)
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:33   #19 (permalink)
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pretty poor half of football. Think we are suffering from a lack of genuine width on the left.

Edit: Cole has been moved to the left now, Pogba wide right.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:40   #20 (permalink)
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Nice interplay there between Pogba and Macheda.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:42   #21 (permalink)
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Pogba's maturing nicely.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:45   #22 (permalink)
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Shit first touch from Macheda, superb ball from Pogba.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:48   #23 (permalink)
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Half-time 0-0, we are suffering from a lack of width. I expect Ravel will come on and be the game changer.
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Old 20th October 2011, 19:49   #24 (permalink)
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Larnell Cole could easily play at a level with far higher tempo. Probably don't say much, though, considering the tempo has been very low. But he seems to have a quick head, and great movement both on and of ball. Reminds me a bit of Scholes, but without the long range passing.
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:14   #25 (permalink)
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Done a decent job on Jordan Slew, for the most part. Not looked as effective as he was over the 2 legs of the FA youth cup final.
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:25   #26 (permalink)
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Kiko is going backwards rapidly isn't he.
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:29   #27 (permalink)
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Kiko is going backwards rapidly isn't he.
If he is, its the only thing he does rapidly

He does have a long way to go as a footballer though, needs to raise his game by a few levels to seriously be United class, especially given his lack of pace.
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:33   #28 (permalink)
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Macheda with literally the worst shot ever!
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:33   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah but compare how he looked in reserves two or three years ago and he just has done nothing but regress since.
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:44   #30 (permalink)
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Should have won a pen there
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:50   #33 (permalink)
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Its easy to be harsh on Kiko but he was never a talented footballer to begin with, he's a talented finisher who finds himself stuck on the wing. Still he has "something" about him although time is against him in terms of showing it at United...
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Old 20th October 2011, 20:52   #34 (permalink)
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Finished 0-0, was a bit of a 0-0 game in fairness.
The team lacks balance, particularly out wide so we struggle to create apart from moments of brilliance.
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Old 20th October 2011, 23:19   #35 (permalink)
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Went to Moss Lane to watch the game, pretty stagnant match. In all fairness I thought Blackburn's reserves were pretty good. Amos was solid again, Pogba continues to stand out as a real presence in the team, and I thought Diouf and Macheda looked OK up top. I like Petrucci too!

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Old 21st October 2011, 01:31   #36 (permalink)
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Thought Morrisons quality stood out quite a lot, even though he only played 10 mins or so. Blackburn had some big lads in midfield and you could see that they couldn't get near him when we had struggled a lot against them previously. He'd have conjured up a few goalscoring opportunities had he been on the pith longer. He just seems so much more intelligent as a player compared to most of the others.
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Old 21st October 2011, 07:41   #37 (permalink)
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To be fair to Kiko, he's not exactly been given a fair crack at anything.

He got about five games last season, paired up front with either Owen or Obertan, in front of shite midfields who were never going to give him any service. Then he was sent on loan to some Italian team which served absolutely no purpose whatsoever, and who weren't interested in using him anyway as they knew he wanted to play in England.

and now this season he's been given one first team chance...as a left footed winger, which he isn't, and doesn't even seem to get played in his position for the reserves, who he was already too good for two years ago.

We've fucked up big time with him. Should have gone on loan to a premiership or championship side at the start of last season.
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Old 21st October 2011, 09:14   #38 (permalink)
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My opinion of the players:

Amos - rock solid in an easy game. Taken big steps the last few seasons

McGinty - good - but reckless in some challenges - could have been sent off
M.Keane generally good - but lost his concentration ones which almost led to a penalty
Fornasier - didn't have too much to do - but did everything correctly.
Vermijl - good going forward a few times - lucky not to give away a penalty

Brown - surprisingly decent passer of the ball - one of our better players

Pogba - the only player looking to create something - maybe our best player
Cole - did ok - but created very little going forward
Petrucci - far away from what he was before the injuries. Anonymous

Macheda - played out of position - but should still do better
Diouf - struggled against Hanley who was MOTM - average performance
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Old 21st October 2011, 12:01   #39 (permalink)
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To be fair to Kiko, he's not exactly been given a fair crack at anything.

He got about five games last season, paired up front with either Owen or Obertan, in front of shite midfields who were never going to give him any service. Then he was sent on loan to some Italian team which served absolutely no purpose whatsoever, and who weren't interested in using him anyway as they knew he wanted to play in England.

and now this season he's been given one first team chance...as a left footed winger, which he isn't, and doesn't even seem to get played in his position for the reserves, who he was already too good for two years ago.

We've fucked up big time with him. Should have gone on loan to a premiership or championship side at the start of last season.
So much wrong in that post. Where to begin...

How about the bit in bold.

Where did you get the impression that he "wanted to play in England"? He obviously wants to play for Manchester United but I don't remember him ever saying he's determined to stay in England. If he doesn't make it at United, I'd say he'd arguably prefer to go back to Italy than join a club lower down the league in England.

Taking your point to it's logical conclusion, surely any other English club should be, if anything, more reluctant to play him than a team in Italy?
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Old 21st October 2011, 13:09   #40 (permalink)
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Pogue is right, Macheda has never stated that he wants to stay in England. If he doesn't make it at United (which in my opinion, I don't think he will - I've never rated him depsite that finish against Villa) then he'll be on his back to Italy.
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