Ravel Morrison (Only football related)

Virtuoso · 29th December 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by MPTutd

Apparently a national newspaper tipped him over the last week to break through in 2010. Trying to find the article.

Was it Sam Wallace in The Independent?

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The future boys

Connor Wickham (Ipswich Town), Raheem Sterling (QPR, soon to be Arsenal), Ravel Morrison (Manchester United), Josh McEachran (Chelsea), Jordan Obita (Reading) and Jordon Mutch (Birmingham, on loan at Hereford). At one stage or another over the last year I have heard all these young footballers being touted as the next big English hope. It would be great if just one became a great English footballer. Let's hope they all do.

Sam Wallace: Dear Jeff Stelling, Sepp Blatter and Phil Brown, thanks for the memories - News & Comment, Football - The Independent

Name Changed · 31st December 2009, 01:37

He's a bit young to make a breakthough next year, isn't he?

FlawlessThaw · 31st December 2009, 11:05

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Originally Posted by Name Changed

He's a bit young to make a breakthough next year, isn't he?

Will be 17 next year, same age as Macheda and Welbeck when they made their first team appearances.

gambit28 · 31st December 2009, 14:54

I have to admit I'm actually excited by him. Can't wait for his full team debut.

Chris H · 1st January 2010, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Virtuoso

Was it Sam Wallace in The Independent?

Here's what he wrote, in a bit more detail:

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3. Ravel Morrison; Manchester United

A powerful young footballer who can play in midfield, on the left wing and off the main striker, he has the ability to make it one day in the United first team – and he might just be in contention for a Carling Cup place next season. Not bad for a kid who is not 17 until next month. Morrison comes from Longsight, the tough area of south Manchester that was also Wes Brown's home patch in the city. Sir Alex Ferguson famously harboured worries over the questionable influences that prevailed over a young Brown, although he eventually proved that he was strong enough to forge a professional career. Young Morrison will also have to demonstrate that he too is prepared to make the touch choices required to be a top footballer.

He certainly has all the natural attributes of strength and pace. He plays in the same FA Youth Cup team as Paul Pogba, the young footballer who was controversially signed from Le Havre and looks more than comfortable alongside a player rated as one of the best in Europe at his age. Morrison has one of the toughest tasks ahead if he is to break into the United team. Others, like Wickham and Williams, have been able to find their feet at a Championship side where the level of scrutiny is not so high. Once Morrison gets his chance for United he will face inevitable comparisons with the likes of Ryan Giggs but there are plenty who feel he has what it takes. He is another member of the England Under-17 team who will be playing in March and April to qualify for the European Championship in Liechtenstein in May.

Clique · 1st January 2010, 12:02

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Originally Posted by gambit28

I have to admit I'm actually excited by him. Can't wait for his full team debut.

You are excited by every signing or youth player in the team. I'm sure you had your willy out when Tosic was unveiled.

Eriku · 2nd January 2010, 12:33

He about to be a baby daddy according to his facebooks:

"Ravel Morrison: seriouse we got a name aswell inint cubz"

charleysurf · 2nd January 2010, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Eriku

He about to be a baby daddy according to his facebooks:

"Ravel Morrison: seriouse we got a name aswell inint cubz"

Talk about too much too young!

Raven Blade · 2nd January 2010, 19:40

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

Talk about too much too young!

So, he's one of those kinda guys then? Hopefully the responsiblity will help him to mature and focus properly on his career.

Inigo Montoya · 4th January 2010, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Raven_Blade

So, he's one of those kinda guys then? Hopefully the responsiblity will help him to mature and focus properly on his career.

Or he might turn out to be another absentee father like quite a few I could mention!

gambit28 · 4th January 2010, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Clique

You are excited by every signing or youth player in the team. I'm sure you had your willy out when Tosic was unveiled.

Standards are slipping Clique, you no longer have it. Wellbeck and Macheda have never excited me.

Escobar · 5th January 2010, 08:19

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Standards are slipping Clique, you no longer have it. Wellbeck and Macheda have never excited me.

You werent excited when Macheda scored that goal against Villa last season or when Welbeck scored a belter last season?

I think both are great talents and have a good chance to make it here. Lets just be a bit more patient and give them time to develop. You wont find an 18 who plays consistently well or is already the finished product.

CLK_FPC · 5th January 2010, 15:04

Gambit has to be talkin bollocks (no offence) I almost burst a vein when Macheda scored against Villa not so much against Sunderland but I was still impressed

gambit28 · 5th January 2010, 15:49

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Originally Posted by CLK_FPC

Gambit has to be talkin bollocks (no offence) I almost burst a vein when Macheda scored against Villa not so much against Sunderland but I was still impressed

I did too against Villa, that was mostly bcause of the game. I'm sure that vein was bursting when Owen scored against City. I don't get excited by an individual player unless they seem to have that something extra and show it on a fairly regular basis. I've only seen small highlights of Ravel and he seems to have that little spark of something you can't quite put your finger on.

CLK_FPC · 5th January 2010, 16:07

Oh I see what you mean by being more excited by the game makes sense but he was making he debut having scored a hatty against Newcastle in his previous game. I was excited when he came on and went thru the roof when he scored.

The Owen goal was different shit lol I almost nutted my brother I was so excited!

VivaRonaldo7 · 8th January 2010, 08:59

Fair play he's a proper G. Should see his posts on facebook.

MPTutd · 3rd February 2010, 10:44

According to the official website, Ravel Morrison turned 17 yesterday, and signed his first professional contract with the club.

WireRed · 3rd February 2010, 14:31

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Originally Posted by MPTutd

According to the official website, Ravel Morrison turned 17 yesterday, and signed his first professional contract with the club.

Good news that. Really got high hopes for this kid. At times he's looked like the next genius to come off the United production line but at other times he's been inconsistent.

Hopefully he'll get all the tabloid headline bollocks knocked out of him by Fergie, so he can concentrate on fulfilling his exciting potential.

x42bn6 · 3rd February 2010, 14:48

Good work Ra'vel - we could do with more apostrophes.

Ringo 07 · 4th February 2010, 02:00

Thats a Naniesque piece of skill right there! Hopefully he has the right attitude to knuckle down!

Cutch · 26th March 2010, 17:54

Can anyone tell me the latest regarding this fella. Its all gone a bit quiet in recent months, havn't seen him in any of the Academy squads for a while now. I'm assuming he has a long term injury?

Colin129 · 20th April 2010, 16:25

There was a thread on this I guy remember from the Newbies, apparently he is/may go off the rails because he'd prefer to hang out with his 'homey's' than knuckle down & play for the best team in the world.

Sounds like a wanker to me TBH and might waste the considerable talent that he has.

Girish II · 20th April 2010, 16:37

I've actually seen him a few times hanging with his 'crew'. Never spoken with him so it's unfair to criticize but they're hardly the type that you would think would be good for him at this what seems to be a delicate stage.

Hope he can mature up, it would do wonders for him on the pitch.

x42bn6 · 20th April 2010, 16:39

Agreed, he's incredibly gifted and has a good chance of landing himself a five-figure-a-week salary in the future - and he may never get another chance again if he wastes this one.

Pogue Mahone · 20th April 2010, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Girish II

I've actually seen him a few times hanging with his 'crew'. Never spoken with him so it's unfair to criticize but they're hardly the type that you would think would be good for him at this what seems to be a delicate stage.

Hope he can mature up, it would do wonders for him on the pitch.

There was a thread recently about the academy at Barca. Apparently it's 100% residential, where kids are removed from all external distractions and eat, sleep and breathe football 24/7.

I can't help but worry that Morrison might end up as a good example of why Barca can constantly churn out a stream of uber-talented teens, while loads of the brightest prospects in English academies never quite make the grade.

Girish II · 20th April 2010, 17:16

Only time will tell with Morrison, he made a start last weekend which have been quite rare of late, let's hope he can kick on from here, from what's left of the season anyway.

Our setup isn't as extreme as the one you mentioned with Barca but you'd hope he's at the best place for sound schooling of responsibilities on and off the pitch. I know United focus the attentions of the youth players heavily on education (and languages for the foreign lads).

Joga_Bonito · 20th April 2010, 17:37

It's interesting that this has been mentioned, because I have suspected that disciplinary reasons might be behind the fact that he has missed almost all of the academy season. It was mentioned during the Middlesbrough game that he had been missing with injury and illness, but it is surprising that such a highly rated player was hardly mentioned in his absence, and also that his appearances have been so intermittent throughout the season. Even when he has been available, which is rarely, he has often started on the bench. That looks to me like he is being made aware of his responsibilities, and that he will not have a very fruitful career unless he dedicates himself to football.

Of course, it's possible that none of that is true, and it might well be totally unfair to even suggest it, but it's hard to understand why the most talented player at that level doesn't even start games when he is clearly fit enough to be on the bench and to come on during the game.

While discipline is obviously very important, it is fairly obvious that not all players who have gone on to become truly great players have been completely focused from the age of 15 onwards. It is probably true that those players would have enjoyed an even better career if they had been, but it would be sad if we wrote off anyone who doesn't instantly conform to certain standards.

datura · 20th April 2010, 18:03

MUTV rarely make reference to injuries etc in their coverage so I wouldn't read too much into that. It's possible that he is another being struck down with growing pains hence his economical usage this season.

I'm always a bit uneasy when people are judging the personalities of 16/17 year old kids when still maturing as players and individuals. Others have come through from similar backgrounds (Wes Brown and Rio to name 2) and had good careers so it shouldn't be a stick to beat him with because his culture/background is different to ours.

Pogue Mahone · 20th April 2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by datura

MUTV rarely make reference to injuries etc in their coverage so I wouldn't read too much into that. It's possible that he is another being struck down with growing pains hence his economical usage this season.

I'm always a bit uneasy when people are judging the personalities of 16/17 year old kids when still maturing as players and individuals. Others have come through from similar backgrounds (Wes Brown and Rio to name 2) and had good careers so it shouldn't be a stick to beat him with because his culture/background is different to ours.

I don't think he's being singled out because of his culture/background. As you correctly mention, Wes has a similar background and nobody is talking about Reese as being a tearaway.

What people are guilty of doing is believing the various rumours they've heard in the press/on here about Morrison being a bit of a messer. Which is slightly foolish but not the same as stereotyping him in the way you imply.

datura · 20th April 2010, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I don't think he's being singled out because of his culture/background. As you correctly mention, Wes has a similar background and nobody is talking about Reese as being a tearaway.

What people are guilty of doing is believing the various rumours they've heard in the press/on here about Morrison being a bit of a messer. Which is slightly foolish but not the same as stereotyping him in the way you imply.

I wasn't referring to you, but I do think there is stereotyping from some people about him.

SAF is pretty clear on these matters though, no matter how good the player is, if he's more trouble that he's worth he'll be out and there is no sign of that with Morrison as yet, despite all the rumours people seem to want to believe about him.

VoetbalWizard · 20th April 2010, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

There was a thread recently about the academy at Barca. Apparently it's 100% residential, where kids are removed from all external distractions and eat, sleep and breathe football 24/7.

I can't help but worry that Morrison might end up as a good example of why Barca can constantly churn out a stream of uber-talented teens, while loads of the brightest prospects in English academies never quite make the grade.

why aren't ours 100% residential? cost?

Joga_Bonito · 20th April 2010, 18:53

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Originally Posted by datura

MUTV rarely make reference to injuries etc in their coverage so I wouldn't read too much into that. It's possible that he is another being struck down with growing pains hence his economical usage this season.

I'm always a bit uneasy when people are judging the personalities of 16/17 year old kids when still maturing as players and individuals. Others have come through from similar backgrounds (Wes Brown and Rio to name 2) and had good careers so it shouldn't be a stick to beat him with because his culture/background is different to ours.

You could be right about MUTV not mentioning injuries, but I do distinctly remember them mentioning Robbie Brady on numerous occasions, as well as other players who have missed games over a period of time. That obviously doesn't mean that there is a link between my not remembering them mentioning Morrison and it being for any particular reason, of course.

I absolutely agree with you about not judging a player, firstly, because of their age, and secondly, because of their background. As I've said, some people — and I would include myself in this — are not the "perfect student", as it were, when they are in their teenage years. Unless we want to write off an entire group of people simply for being different, it is something that we have to accept and find ways to deal with. I'm hoping that football clubs have recognized this, because there are too many examples of players who have probably not fulfilled their potential because clubs haven't known how to best deal with them in their formative years.

However, it is also true that a disproportionate number of young people who exhibit certain traits at that age are at risk of not fulfilling their ambitions. That's just a statistical fact, although I would say that it only applies in the current system, which means that it is the system that is at fault, and often not the young person. Suggesting that all people of a certain age, cultural background, education, or wealth, are problematic would be unfair stereotyping. And it would be completely false, as well.

The point is not that certain young people can't mature and go on to become among the best at what they do, it's that the people who are in authority over them have to recognize that not all people are alike and find ways to engage with and inspire them.

The fact is that we simply don't know enough about Morrison to be able to say anything of significance. So, I would admit that it would probably be more fair to not say anything at all. I suppose that people are anxious for him to fulfill his potential, more than anything else, because he is probably the most talented player of that age that we have produced since Paul Scholes.

Pogue Mahone · 20th April 2010, 18:54

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Originally Posted by VoetbalWizard

why aren't ours 100% residential? cost?

I presume so. The article I read said that Barca's academy costs 3 to 4 times more to run than the most expensive in England.

samabachan · 20th April 2010, 21:55

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Originally Posted by datura

MUTV rarely make reference to injuries etc in their coverage so I wouldn't read too much into that. It's possible that he is another being struck down with growing pains hence his economical usage this season.

I'm always a bit uneasy when people are judging the personalities of 16/17 year old kids when still maturing as players and individuals. Others have come through from similar backgrounds (Wes Brown and Rio to name 2) and had good careers so it shouldn't be a stick to beat him with because his culture/background is different to ours.

I may have been imagining it, but I DID think from the highlights up there^^^^ that he seems to have grown a good couple of inches since I last saw him. You have to bear in mind that we have an abnormally tall team this year (at least by our standards) with the likes of Keane, Pogba, Thorpe, McGinty etc.

Striker10 · 20th April 2010, 22:05

It don't have to be an injury. It might have been. It might be seen as part of a kids development. We're in a different era where more and more people are watching Uniteds reserves. It could go to their heads. I mean not only are people going to watch the reserves but now it's on tv live and repeated and they get to give interviews etc..

I think most people go on about Morrison because you can see he is a composed player who has the ability. What stuck me last time I saw him was his work ethic. Something I hadn't noticed before. He was tracking back - at one point back healing it past the attacker down the line.

I think it might be a mixture of things but people just don't want another mads timm situation. He was a top talent but he was a mug and threw it away

oskarutd · 20th April 2010, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Striker10

It don't have to be an injury. It might have been. It might be seen as part of a kids development. We're in a different era where more and more people are watching Uniteds reserves. It could go to their heads. I mean not only are people going to watch the reserves but now it's on tv live and repeated and they get to give interviews etc..

I think most people go on about Morrison because you can see he is a composed player who has the ability. What stuck me last time I saw him was his work ethic. Something I hadn't noticed before. He was tracking back - at one point back healing it past the attacker down the line.

I think it might be a mixture of things but people just don't want another mads timm situation. He was a top talent but he was a mug and threw it away

Sad about Timm, but he didn´t seem to want it enough.
I must say that Morrison seems to be more discipline than earlier. He is in for a lot of rough treatment because of his skill, but now he seem to not get upset anymore. So good signs!

Widnes · 21st April 2010, 21:54

There was talk of United building a boarding school next to carrington a while ago but not heard anything new on that.

PS18 · 22nd April 2010, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Striker10

It don't have to be an injury. It might have been. It might be seen as part of a kids development. We're in a different era where more and more people are watching Uniteds reserves. It could go to their heads. I mean not only are people going to watch the reserves but now it's on tv live and repeated and they get to give interviews etc..

Have to admit I'm not totally convinced about the tv thing (I've heard a few people say it could be an issue). In Spain and other countries teams as low down as U12/13s (probably younger) get tv coverage, website coverage etc, and it doesn't seem to do them too much harm. I don't really see why being on MUTV should go to players' heads really. Lots of other things more likely to affect these kids mentally I think.

One thing I'd (tentatively, as we're only talking 1 sub appearance and then a whole game we've only got highlights of) say about Morrison since his return is he's seemed to be playing with greater maturity, particularly in that sub appearance against Wolves. Like you said, he worked hard, and he was much better with his decision making and use of the ball, keeping his tricks for the right areas of the field. Hopefully he's grown up a little.

Drainy · 22nd April 2010, 02:22

The conspiracy theorist in me thought that he might have been dropped for attitude reasons. He went missing at around the time that Sir Alex made that comment about young footballers being flashy and saying that they were banning coloured football boots in the under 18s. Probably just putting 2+2 together to get 17 but anyway..

Either way its great to see him back, hopefully the disruption to his season is over.

Striker10 · 22nd April 2010, 14:38

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Originally Posted by PS18

Have to admit I'm not totally convinced about the tv thing (I've heard a few people say it could be an issue). In Spain and other countries teams as low down as U12/13s (probably younger) get tv coverage, website coverage etc, and it doesn't seem to do them too much harm. I don't really see why being on MUTV should go to players' heads really. Lots of other things more likely to affect these kids mentally I think.

One thing I'd (tentatively, as we're only talking 1 sub appearance and then a whole game we've only got highlights of) say about Morrison since his return is he's seemed to be playing with greater maturity, particularly in that sub appearance against Wolves. Like you said, he worked hard, and he was much better with his decision making and use of the ball, keeping his tricks for the right areas of the field. Hopefully he's grown up a little.

I think its the difference between sir alex and a lot of other managers/coaches. The protection we give in this country and at united is different to that where they have open training for example all the time

It's more to do with who will recognize them - when you talk about mutv, that's probably over 3,000,000 + people world wide. Before Mutv, we're talking a lot less so it has to be an issue but in this case? Who honestly knows? I'm sure it's something Sir Alex has thought about though because the more people who recognize you, the more chance of feeling you've made it...

You get the coaches, parents etc keeping their feet on the ground but it can't be easy for the kids

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31st December 2009, 01:37	#42 (permalink)
Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 21,014	He's a bit young to make a breakthough next year, isn't he?

31st December 2009, 14:54	#44 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,714	I have to admit I'm actually excited by him. Can't wait for his full team debut.

2nd January 2010, 12:33	#47 (permalink)
Eriku First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ørsta, Norway Posts: 8,189	He about to be a baby daddy according to his facebooks: "Ravel Morrison: seriouse we got a name aswell inint cubz"

5th January 2010, 15:04	#53 (permalink)
CLK_FPC First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★I Be That Pretty Motherfucker...☆ Posts: 7,402	Gambit has to be talkin bollocks (no offence) I almost burst a vein when Macheda scored against Villa not so much against Sunderland but I was still impressed

5th January 2010, 16:07	#55 (permalink)
CLK_FPC First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★I Be That Pretty Motherfucker...☆ Posts: 7,402	Oh I see what you mean by being more excited by the game makes sense but he was making he debut having scored a hatty against Newcastle in his previous game. I was excited when he came on and went thru the roof when he scored. The Owen goal was different shit lol I almost nutted my brother I was so excited!

8th January 2010, 08:59	#56 (permalink)
VivaRonaldo7 First Team Sub Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chester Posts: 5,778	Fair play he's a proper G. Should see his posts on facebook.

3rd February 2010, 10:44	#57 (permalink)
MPTutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London Posts: 3,963	According to the official website, Ravel Morrison turned 17 yesterday, and signed his first professional contract with the club.

3rd February 2010, 14:48	#59 (permalink)
x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 西田麻衣の谷間. Being a nerd, geek and virgin Posts: 17,358	Good work Ra'vel - we could do with more apostrophes.

4th February 2010, 02:00	#60 (permalink)
Ringo 07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better," Steven Gerrard on Joe Cole Posts: 3,107	Thats a Naniesque piece of skill right there! Hopefully he has the right attitude to knuckle down!

26th March 2010, 17:54	#61 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	Can anyone tell me the latest regarding this fella. Its all gone a bit quiet in recent months, havn't seen him in any of the Academy squads for a while now. I'm assuming he has a long term injury?

20th April 2010, 16:25	#62 (permalink)
Colin129 First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aliens are in control of my tagline & location, but they'll never take me alive! Posts: 10,822	There was a thread on this I guy remember from the Newbies, apparently he is/may go off the rails because he'd prefer to hang out with his 'homey's' than knuckle down & play for the best team in the world. Sounds like a wanker to me TBH and might waste the considerable talent that he has.

20th April 2010, 16:37	#63 (permalink)
Girish II First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Karaoke Posts: 7,418	I've actually seen him a few times hanging with his 'crew'. Never spoken with him so it's unfair to criticize but they're hardly the type that you would think would be good for him at this what seems to be a delicate stage. Hope he can mature up, it would do wonders for him on the pitch.

20th April 2010, 16:39	#64 (permalink)
x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 西田麻衣の谷間. Being a nerd, geek and virgin Posts: 17,358	Agreed, he's incredibly gifted and has a good chance of landing himself a five-figure-a-week salary in the future - and he may never get another chance again if he wastes this one.

20th April 2010, 17:16	#66 (permalink)
Girish II First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Karaoke Posts: 7,418	Only time will tell with Morrison, he made a start last weekend which have been quite rare of late, let's hope he can kick on from here, from what's left of the season anyway. Our setup isn't as extreme as the one you mentioned with Barca but you'd hope he's at the best place for sound schooling of responsibilities on and off the pitch. I know United focus the attentions of the youth players heavily on education (and languages for the foreign lads).

20th April 2010, 17:37	#67 (permalink)
Joga_Bonito Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: He’ll play upon, Your naturalistic intuitions, He’ll lure you in, With the promise of positions that you love...And then you’re caught in the web, No support from the a priori, All aboard Neurath’s ship, It will all be fine. Posts: 1,192	It's interesting that this has been mentioned, because I have suspected that disciplinary reasons might be behind the fact that he has missed almost all of the academy season. It was mentioned during the Middlesbrough game that he had been missing with injury and illness, but it is surprising that such a highly rated player was hardly mentioned in his absence, and also that his appearances have been so intermittent throughout the season. Even when he has been available, which is rarely, he has often started on the bench. That looks to me like he is being made aware of his responsibilities, and that he will not have a very fruitful career unless he dedicates himself to football. Of course, it's possible that none of that is true, and it might well be totally unfair to even suggest it, but it's hard to understand why the most talented player at that level doesn't even start games when he is clearly fit enough to be on the bench and to come on during the game. While discipline is obviously very important, it is fairly obvious that not all players who have gone on to become truly great players have been completely focused from the age of 15 onwards. It is probably true that those players would have enjoyed an even better career if they had been, but it would be sad if we wrote off anyone who doesn't instantly conform to certain standards.

20th April 2010, 18:03	#68 (permalink)
datura First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so it goes Posts: 9,135	MUTV rarely make reference to injuries etc in their coverage so I wouldn't read too much into that. It's possible that he is another being struck down with growing pains hence his economical usage this season. I'm always a bit uneasy when people are judging the personalities of 16/17 year old kids when still maturing as players and individuals. Others have come through from similar backgrounds (Wes Brown and Rio to name 2) and had good careers so it shouldn't be a stick to beat him with because his culture/background is different to ours.

20th April 2010, 22:05	#75 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 13,348	It don't have to be an injury. It might have been. It might be seen as part of a kids development. We're in a different era where more and more people are watching Uniteds reserves. It could go to their heads. I mean not only are people going to watch the reserves but now it's on tv live and repeated and they get to give interviews etc.. I think most people go on about Morrison because you can see he is a composed player who has the ability. What stuck me last time I saw him was his work ethic. Something I hadn't noticed before. He was tracking back - at one point back healing it past the attacker down the line. I think it might be a mixture of things but people just don't want another mads timm situation. He was a top talent but he was a mug and threw it away

21st April 2010, 21:54	#77 (permalink)
Widnes Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Widnes Posts: 1,748	There was talk of United building a boarding school next to carrington a while ago but not heard anything new on that.

22nd April 2010, 02:22	#79 (permalink)
Drainy Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: "isn't a good dribbling a form of deceiving (cheating) your rival?" Posts: 2,506	The conspiracy theorist in me thought that he might have been dropped for attitude reasons. He went missing at around the time that Sir Alex made that comment about young footballers being flashy and saying that they were banning coloured football boots in the under 18s. Probably just putting 2+2 together to get 17 but anyway.. Either way its great to see him back, hopefully the disruption to his season is over.