Reserves v Blackburn, LSC (A)

Maciek · 22nd December 2011, 12:03

Lancashire Senior Cup, 14:00 GMT.

It's not on MUTV, I just wanted to post our line-up.

Amos, Rafael, Vermijl, M Keane, Fryers, Cole, Gibson, Pogba, Diouf, W Keane, Macheda.

Subs: Fornasier, Jacob, Petrucci, Lingard, Thorpe.

heightmassive · 22nd December 2011, 12:20

Is this at leyland?

voland · 22nd December 2011, 14:28

we lead 1:0, goal by Diouf assist Gibson (according to twitter)

edit:
2:0 Diouf x2 (32 minutes) (Rafael assist)

Cold_Boy · 22nd December 2011, 14:43

Why is Petrucci on bench these days?

Maciek · 22nd December 2011, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Why is Petrucci on bench these days?

Because Gibson needs minutes and Pogba has a bigger chance to make it at United.

pocco · 22nd December 2011, 15:09

Petrucci has a chance of making it here but with his injury problems and that I think we'll be cautious with him. Pogba may have to step in to the first team at any point if injuries persist and therefore we need to keep him match fit.

voland · 22nd December 2011, 15:16

Petrucci replaces Diouf at 55min

voland · 22nd December 2011, 15:38

#mufc subs Fryers off Formasier on and Macheda off Lingard on 78 mins

voland · 22nd December 2011, 15:54

3:0 jessie lingard
4:0 will keane
FT 4:0

cj_sparky · 22nd December 2011, 15:55

Petrucci, has played well for the reserves the last couple of times I have seen him. I was a little surprised when he didn't get into the squad for the game against Palace Although I honestly thought Pogba was going to start in midfield that night. So it was understandable as Ravel and Pogba both needed to get a chance from the bench at some stage.

If Petrucci can stay fit this year, a loan deal to a Championship side could very well be the making of him. Much in the same way it was for Cleverly, and Brady seems to be doing well for Hull too. It is certainly too early to write him off yet.

Inigo Montoya · 22nd December 2011, 15:56

How did Pogba get on?

voland · 22nd December 2011, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

How did Pogba get on?

No idea really, just relaying twitter information on the result. We'll see in the report tonight I guess.

Maciek · 22nd December 2011, 16:19

I know Petrucci is young, but he needs a loan move - he doesn't make any progress in Reserves and - with our current injury crisis in midfield - he's still not even close to the first team.

That's worrying, I really think that a loan move would help him a lot.

Pogue Mahone · 22nd December 2011, 16:59

I think he just needs an injury-free (ish) season under his belt, under the watchful eye of our physios. When a young player's been out as long as he is, it makes a lot of sense to use him sparingly and keep him close to home.

Elliott · 22nd December 2011, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciek

I know Petrucci is young, but he needs a loan move - he doesn't make any progress in Reserves and - with our current injury crisis in midfield - he's still not even close to the first team.

That's worrying, I really think that a loan move would help him a lot.

I don't agree with that. He's taken plenty of steps in the right direction since he came back, so far reserve team footie has clearly and understandably been a big enough challenge for him. He probably needs a loan at some stage, but for now - keep him fit and the transition from unlucky bastard just back from injury hell to exciting prospect of vast potential will continue.

heightmassive · 22nd December 2011, 17:59

Why didn't Ravel Morrison play?

datura · 22nd December 2011, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott

I don't agree with that. He's taken plenty of steps in the right direction since he came back, so far reserve team footie has been clearly and understandably been a big enough challenge for him. He probably needs a loan at some stage, but for now - keep him fit and the transition from unlucky bastard just back from injury hell to exciting prospect of vast potential will continue.

I'd agree with that. He's also learning a new position playing deeper in midfield then when he joined when he was more of a no 10. You could probably say given the injuries he's probably lost almost 2 years of development, the fact that he's playing so well is a testament to his professionalism and dedication.

Decotron · 22nd December 2011, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciek

Because Gibson needs minutes and Pogba has a bigger chance to make it at United.

Thats not really the reason he didnt start now is it?

KM · 22nd December 2011, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by heightmassive

Why didn't Ravel Morrison play?

Injured.

Eirik Raude · 22nd December 2011, 18:35

Most important of all, did Rafael survive? Did he finish the match without getting injured?

Maciek · 22nd December 2011, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott

I don't agree with that. He's taken plenty of steps in the right direction since he came back, so far reserve team footie has clearly and understandably been a big enough challenge for him. He probably needs a loan at some stage, but for now - keep him fit and the transition from unlucky bastard just back from injury hell to exciting prospect of vast potential will continue.

Yes, but he's 20 and next season he'll be too old for Reserves. Ok, maybe "he doesn't make any progress" wasn't what I exactly meant. I know he's had an injury, but we really need to think about a loan move in January or in the summer. Just like for Macheda. They have talent, but they need to show it regularly, on a high level, Premier Reserve League and Lancashire Senior Cup.

He won't make any progress if he's not loaned out next year - better?

Maciek · 22nd December 2011, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decotron

Thats not really the reason he didnt start now is it?

Well, I'm not Warren Joyce - it was a good reason for me.

But it's just one of Reserves' games, he won't be starting all the time + we Gibson had to play today.

Elliott · 22nd December 2011, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciek

Yes, but he's 20 and next season he'll be too old for Reserves. Ok, maybe "he doesn't make any progress" wasn't what I exactly meant. I know he's had an injury, but we really need to think about a loan move in January or in the summer. Just like for Macheda. They have talent, but they need to show it regularly, on a high level, Premier Reserve League and Lancashire Senior Cup.

He won't make any progress if he's not loaned out next year - better?

Yupp, if he manages to stay fit, next season will be huge for him and a loan is probably on the cards.

datura · 22nd December 2011, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott

Yupp, if he manages to stay fit, next season will be huge for him and a loan is probably on the cards.

There may be a possibility in January too. I would imagine a few might get moves as there are players not getting games and a big squad in the Academy too.

IanDangerously · 23rd December 2011, 04:02

Petrucci is a lot better than Gibson, shouldn't even be a contest for a starting place there honestly. Quicker we ship Gibson out the better for everybody at the club.

MPTutd · 23rd December 2011, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanDangerously

Petrucci is a lot better than Gibson, shouldn't even be a contest for a starting place there honestly. Quicker we ship Gibson out the better for everybody at the club.

Agreed. Problem is we need Gibson playing in order to sell him. Plus he is probably backup for the first team right now.

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2011, 14:07

As of right now, Gibson is the best central midfielder in our reserves. Which was plain to see in the Palace game.

If - God forbid - Carrick tears a ham-string on Monday the opportunities Gibson has been getting to work on his match fitness will have been far more important than whatever experience Petrucci has missed out on through picking Gibson ahead of him.

KM · 23rd December 2011, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanDangerously

Petrucci is a lot better than Gibson, shouldn't even be a contest for a starting place there honestly. Quicker we ship Gibson out the better for everybody at the club.

Not really. Gibbo is much better than Petrucci or Pogba right now. The Carling Cup match against Palace showed that.

Oh and Diouf has now scored 9 goals in his last 9 appearances for the reserves, he's clearly not good enough for us, but I feel he could easily do a good job for the bottom half teams. We should send him and Macheda on loan. Keane could provide us good cover.

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22nd December 2011, 12:20	#2 (permalink)
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22nd December 2011, 14:28	#3 (permalink)
voland Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ಠ_ಠ Posts: 1,475	we lead 1:0, goal by Diouf assist Gibson (according to twitter) edit: 2:0 Diouf x2 (32 minutes) (Rafael assist)

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Cold_Boy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London,UK Posts: 17,368	Why is Petrucci on bench these days?

22nd December 2011, 15:09	#6 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3,605	Petrucci has a chance of making it here but with his injury problems and that I think we'll be cautious with him. Pogba may have to step in to the first team at any point if injuries persist and therefore we need to keep him match fit.

22nd December 2011, 15:16	#7 (permalink)
voland Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ಠ_ಠ Posts: 1,475	Petrucci replaces Diouf at 55min

22nd December 2011, 15:38	#8 (permalink)
voland Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ಠ_ಠ Posts: 1,475	#mufc subs Fryers off Formasier on and Macheda off Lingard on 78 mins

22nd December 2011, 15:54	#9 (permalink)
voland Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ಠ_ಠ Posts: 1,475	3:0 jessie lingard 4:0 will keane FT 4:0

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cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "At times when I've watched him, I wonder if he's being controlled by a 10 year old in the crowd with a playstation console" Gary Neville talking about David Luiz Posts: 4,068	Petrucci, has played well for the reserves the last couple of times I have seen him. I was a little surprised when he didn't get into the squad for the game against Palace Although I honestly thought Pogba was going to start in midfield that night. So it was understandable as Ravel and Pogba both needed to get a chance from the bench at some stage. If Petrucci can stay fit this year, a loan deal to a Championship side could very well be the making of him. Much in the same way it was for Cleverly, and Brady seems to be doing well for Hull too. It is certainly too early to write him off yet.

22nd December 2011, 15:56	#11 (permalink)
Inigo Montoya First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,009	How did Pogba get on?

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Maciek Spit and Polish Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 'Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field. It's a fact, right? And it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow and not as good as your own cow.' Posts: 9,135	I know Petrucci is young, but he needs a loan move - he doesn't make any progress in Reserves and - with our current injury crisis in midfield - he's still not even close to the first team. That's worrying, I really think that a loan move would help him a lot.

22nd December 2011, 16:59	#14 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	I think he just needs an injury-free (ish) season under his belt, under the watchful eye of our physios. When a young player's been out as long as he is, it makes a lot of sense to use him sparingly and keep him close to home.

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Eirik Raude Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Watford (On that online manager thing I most likely will get bored of soon) Posts: 1,769	Most important of all, did Rafael survive? Did he finish the match without getting injured?

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IanDangerously Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heaton Chapel, Gtr Manchester Posts: 4,384	Petrucci is a lot better than Gibson, shouldn't even be a contest for a starting place there honestly. Quicker we ship Gibson out the better for everybody at the club.

23rd December 2011, 14:07	#27 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	As of right now, Gibson is the best central midfielder in our reserves. Which was plain to see in the Palace game. If - God forbid - Carrick tears a ham-string on Monday the opportunities Gibson has been getting to work on his match fitness will have been far more important than whatever experience Petrucci has missed out on through picking Gibson ahead of him.