Reserves vs Rochdale (LSC)

PS18 · 16th March 2009, 12:20

Zieler, Eckersley, Fábio, Evans, Gill, Possebon, Eikrem, Bryan, Macheda, Welbeck, Derbyshire

Subs: James, Amos, Drinkwater, Brady, Stewart

manutd.com say Fábio's in midfield with Derbyshire at left-back but the team-list on the Rochdale site, which I assume would be in number order, has Fábio at #3 so we shall see.

Kick-off's at 2pm.

Elliott · 16th March 2009, 13:06

Nice to see Fab's not injured.

cj_sparky · 16th March 2009, 13:25

Is this on MUTV or anything?

Elliott · 16th March 2009, 14:18

No.

Chirag · 16th March 2009, 14:21

So no chance of getting a stream via PM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott

Nice to see Fab's not injured.

I agree!

relx · 16th March 2009, 17:06

Fabio got a hat-trick, final score 4-1. Missed a penalty as well

Anderson Searl · 16th March 2009, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by relx

Fabio got a hat-trick, final score 4-1. Missed a penalty as well

....
Fabio-.....
Evra-.....
....

hmmm?

Decotron · 16th March 2009, 17:24

http://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/page/Re...590146,00.html

PS18 · 16th March 2009, 18:17

Will be doing a match report for my blog at some point this evening but, briefly:

Sluggish start from United, they scored first, poor marking at a corner, somehow allowed the shortest guy on the pitch to loop a header over Zieler. Think Welbeck might have been at fault but it was hard to tell. That was after about 17 minutes.

3/4 minutes later, Macheda played Fábio in down the left and he just nicked the ball away from the covering defender before being taken out, definite penalty. Unfortunately he put it wide of the right-hand post.

Made up for it a few minutes later, Rodrigo hammered a volley from the edge of the area after a corner was half-cleared and the keeper made a very good save, unfortunately for him Fábio was waiting to knock home the rebound.

Much better from United at this point, Rochdale were occasionally threatening - they had a first-team striker coming back from injury and another guy who I think is a usual first-teamer who was your classic lower-league battering ram. Zieler was never really troubled though, and generally we were passing them to death and looked a lot sharper.

Then came the highlight of the game, Fábio's second goal. Great cross-field ball to him from Rodrigo, Fábio played it up the line to Macheda, carried on his run, Kiko pulled it back to him on the edge of the area and without breaking stride he caught it on the volley and gave the keeper no chance. Was almost a scissor-kick, bit di Canio-esque, wonderful strike, great build-up. Applauded by everyone in the crowd, which was mostly Rochdale fans.

After half-time it really was one-way traffic. Fábio completed his hattrick a few minutes after the interval - Eikrem's corner was flicked on by Gill and while the sub keeper for Rochdale pulled off a great save from the little Brazilian's initial header, he couldn't stop him volleying in the rebound from a tight angle.

From that point on everyone wanted in on the action really. Welbeck forced a save, Eikrem volleyed wide when clean through, Macheda had a shot blocked after a great move and Welbeck probably should have had a penalty, although he spurned the chance of an easy pull-back to Fábio and could have avoided putting things in the ref's hands.

Nonetheless, just before the hour mark he ran onto Evans' excellent throughball and gave the keeper the eyes, coolly rolling it past him for 4-1.

We were pretty much queueing up to score at this point - Macheda and Evans (twice) went close from distance, Welbeck went close with another effort from the edge of the box, Evans forced a great save after another one-two with Welbeck. The football was excellent and more goals should really have been added, not least in the last five minutes when Stewart miskicked from 10 yards out and then Drinkwater put the loose ball over from six yards. Rochdale had a couple of late chances but were similarly wasteful, and the ref put them out of their misery dead on the 90 minute mark.

After a shaky first twenty minutes it really was an excellent performance, the gulf in class really evident. Evans and Eckersley were superb at the back, Evans especially considering he was up against robust and experienced opposition - Gill did well too. Fábio was obviously brilliant, it really is a matter of when rather than if he breaks into the first team. Possebon and Eikrem did well in midfield, Macheda was superb after a rusty first half-hour and was all over the park while Welbeck perhaps wasn't at his absolute best but showed his obvious class.

1. Zieler
2. Eckersley
3. Fábio (15. Brady 60)
4. Evans (c)
5. Gill
6. Possebon (14. Drinkwater 46)
7. Eikrem
8. Bryan (16. Stewart 68)
9. Macheda
10. Welbeck
11. Derbyshire

Not used: 12. James, 13. Amos.

Goals: Fábio 26, 41, 48, Welbeck 58.

PS18 · 16th March 2009, 18:18

So much for briefly...

Decotron · 16th March 2009, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS18

So much for briefly...

thanks for the report. Dying to see the volley. Did MUTV even have cameras there?

Top · 16th March 2009, 18:51

Sounds brilliant, can't wait for the highlights.

Cheers for the report, PS18.

PS18 · 16th March 2009, 19:30

It looked like there was a camera filming in the gantry opposite us so I assume there'll be some decidedly low-tech highlights on MUTV at some point.

Pogue Mahone · 16th March 2009, 19:47

Highlights tomorrow night at 7.30pm.

Can't wait

niMic · 16th March 2009, 19:51

Hope someone records it and pops it up on Youtube for the rest of us

How's Eikrem coming along, by the way? Us Norwegians don't have a lot of very promising youngsters really, so we have to watch out for the ones who at least are at clubs like United (or like Nordtveit at Arsenal, who actually is a United fan). Does he look like he might have a shot at a good career or does he look like he will fade away into the background with the rest?

Elliott · 16th March 2009, 20:54

Cheers, PS18. Great stuff.

uae · 16th March 2009, 20:59

Was Fabio in his usual left back slot then PS18?

x42bn6 · 16th March 2009, 21:09

Is it now safe to say that Fábio > Messi?

PS18 · 16th March 2009, 21:10

He was, although like the Rochdale site's report says, he spent so much time rampaging forward he was almost an auxiliary left-winger.

Eikrem had a very good game. Would be amazed if he made it with us still, but he's a natural footballer who definitely has it in him to make it somewhere. A lot depends on how he develops physically, he's still very slight.

Anderson Searl · 16th March 2009, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by x42bn6

Is it now safe to say that Fábio > Messi?

When was there a contest?

I mean surely Fabio is better than Ronaldo

OK, he's short, but he's got awesome hair and is shorter than Ronaldo, so simply put he's better based on the fact he's a foot shorter.

No doubt Fabio is this years POY.

uae · 16th March 2009, 21:49

Cheers PS18, quality from you once again

PS18 · 17th March 2009, 01:05

We play Preston in the semis now by the way.

Chirag · 17th March 2009, 09:35

Great job PS18.. Now all we need are the highlights.. I can't wait for Fabio to break through to the 1st team.. Who was playing left back if Fabio was playing on the left wing?

PS18 · 17th March 2009, 13:24

Fabio wasn't playing on the left-wing, he was playing left-back.

Chirag · 17th March 2009, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS18

Fabio wasn't playing on the left-wing, he was playing left-back.

Sweet!

cj_sparky · 17th March 2009, 18:56

I'd give young Fabio a run out against Fulham. I think it is a good time to rest Evra in the process as he hasn't been at full flow since he was roasted time and time again by Aaron Lennon in the Carling Cup.

PS18 · 17th March 2009, 19:58

Time and time again is a bit of an exaggeration. Evra's had plenty of rest recently with his suspension over christmas into January and then his injuries, he needs games to play himself back into form.

Would rather give Fábio a go on the other flank, O'Shea's been equally poor lately and has played a lot of football.

Elliott · 17th March 2009, 20:17

Saw the highlights, I don't want to take anything away from a solid performance but I'm pretty sure I could do a job for Rochdale reserves. Fabio, Welbeck and Macheda, to name but three, seemed to do as they damn well pleased with no troubles what so ever.

Crerand Legend · 17th March 2009, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS18

Time and time again is a bit of an exaggeration. Evra's had plenty of rest recently with his suspension over christmas into January and then his injuries, he needs games to play himself back into form.

Would rather give Fábio a go on the other flank, O'Shea's been equally poor lately and has played a lot of football.

In fairness he was playing in a reserve match against Rochdale,to step into the first team at the stage we are at would probably not be fair to the lad although Im sure he would take the chance if offered.Fergie will only use him if he has to

PS18 · 17th March 2009, 20:49

I completely agree, just saying if he's going to get a chance I'd rather it was in a position that's a bit weak rather than one where we have a world-class player having a form dip.

cj_sparky · 18th March 2009, 01:05

People had their reservations in letting Rafael loose and he went from strength to strength. Fabio made a good showing against Spurs in the FA Cup and I don't believe Fergie has ever had a fear of putting someone in.

Devil_3565 · 18th March 2009, 09:06

any link to the highlights?

Striker10 · 18th March 2009, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil_3565

any link to the highlights?

Could only find Da Silvas Hat trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNMcplb82Q

You have to wait till the last replay to see the third goal properly as it's too far out

It's a good initial header save and he smashes in the volley (close range)

Chirag · 18th March 2009, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker10

Could only find Da Silvas Hat trick:

You have to wait till the last replay to see the third goal properly as it's too far out

It's a good initial header save and he smashes in the volley (close range)

Thanks man great Job..

Devil_3565 · 18th March 2009, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker10

Could only find Da Silvas Hat trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNMcplb82Q

You have to wait till the last replay to see the third goal properly as it's too far out

It's a good initial header save and he smashes in the volley (close range)

thanks man

x42bn6 · 18th March 2009, 14:29

I bet Roberto Carlos never scored a hat-trick from full-back.*

* Feel free to embarrass.

Chirag · 19th March 2009, 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by x42bn6

I bet Roberto Carlos never scored a hat-trick from full-back.*

* Feel free to embarrass.

Not too many have... Also it must be mentioned that none of the 3 goals were from the Penalty spot or a goal from a Direct free-kick..

Pogue Mahone · 19th March 2009, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_sparky

People had their reservations in letting Rafael loose and he went from strength to strength. Fabio made a good showing against Spurs in the FA Cup and I don't believe Fergie has ever had a fear of putting someone in.

I think Fabio's first team debut was more impressive than any performance we've seen from Rafaell. He didn't over-commit once, which seems to be Raffael's achilles heel.

The only problem is neither of them are as good as Evra (not many are) so I think Fabio's best chance of a game any time soon is at RB. He seems to be mainly right-footed after all.

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PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	Reserves vs Rochdale (LSC) <a href="http://d.mediadakine.com/ck.php?n=ad232b97&cb=99549" target="_blank"><img src="http://d.mediadakine.com/avw.php?zoneid=81&cb=99549&n=ad232b97" border="0" alt="" /></a> Zieler, Eckersley, Fábio, Evans, Gill, Possebon, Eikrem, Bryan, Macheda, Welbeck, Derbyshire Subs: James, Amos, Drinkwater, Brady, Stewart manutd.com say Fábio's in midfield with Derbyshire at left-back but the team-list on the Rochdale site, which I assume would be in number order, has Fábio at #3 so we shall see. Kick-off's at 2pm.

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16th March 2009, 13:06	#2 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,982	Nice to see Fab's not injured.

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relx Frnkie Sys Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,803	Fabio got a hat-trick, final score 4-1. Missed a penalty as well

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16th March 2009, 18:17	#9 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	Will be doing a match report for my blog at some point this evening but, briefly: Sluggish start from United, they scored first, poor marking at a corner, somehow allowed the shortest guy on the pitch to loop a header over Zieler. Think Welbeck might have been at fault but it was hard to tell. That was after about 17 minutes. 3/4 minutes later, Macheda played Fábio in down the left and he just nicked the ball away from the covering defender before being taken out, definite penalty. Unfortunately he put it wide of the right-hand post. Made up for it a few minutes later, Rodrigo hammered a volley from the edge of the area after a corner was half-cleared and the keeper made a very good save, unfortunately for him Fábio was waiting to knock home the rebound. Much better from United at this point, Rochdale were occasionally threatening - they had a first-team striker coming back from injury and another guy who I think is a usual first-teamer who was your classic lower-league battering ram. Zieler was never really troubled though, and generally we were passing them to death and looked a lot sharper. Then came the highlight of the game, Fábio's second goal. Great cross-field ball to him from Rodrigo, Fábio played it up the line to Macheda, carried on his run, Kiko pulled it back to him on the edge of the area and without breaking stride he caught it on the volley and gave the keeper no chance. Was almost a scissor-kick, bit di Canio-esque, wonderful strike, great build-up. Applauded by everyone in the crowd, which was mostly Rochdale fans. After half-time it really was one-way traffic. Fábio completed his hattrick a few minutes after the interval - Eikrem's corner was flicked on by Gill and while the sub keeper for Rochdale pulled off a great save from the little Brazilian's initial header, he couldn't stop him volleying in the rebound from a tight angle. From that point on everyone wanted in on the action really. Welbeck forced a save, Eikrem volleyed wide when clean through, Macheda had a shot blocked after a great move and Welbeck probably should have had a penalty, although he spurned the chance of an easy pull-back to Fábio and could have avoided putting things in the ref's hands. Nonetheless, just before the hour mark he ran onto Evans' excellent throughball and gave the keeper the eyes, coolly rolling it past him for 4-1. We were pretty much queueing up to score at this point - Macheda and Evans (twice) went close from distance, Welbeck went close with another effort from the edge of the box, Evans forced a great save after another one-two with Welbeck. The football was excellent and more goals should really have been added, not least in the last five minutes when Stewart miskicked from 10 yards out and then Drinkwater put the loose ball over from six yards. Rochdale had a couple of late chances but were similarly wasteful, and the ref put them out of their misery dead on the 90 minute mark. After a shaky first twenty minutes it really was an excellent performance, the gulf in class really evident. Evans and Eckersley were superb at the back, Evans especially considering he was up against robust and experienced opposition - Gill did well too. Fábio was obviously brilliant, it really is a matter of when rather than if he breaks into the first team. Possebon and Eikrem did well in midfield, Macheda was superb after a rusty first half-hour and was all over the park while Welbeck perhaps wasn't at his absolute best but showed his obvious class. 1. Zieler 2. Eckersley 3. Fábio (15. Brady 60) 4. Evans (c) 5. Gill 6. Possebon (14. Drinkwater 46) 7. Eikrem 8. Bryan (16. Stewart 68) 9. Macheda 10. Welbeck 11. Derbyshire Not used: 12. James, 13. Amos. Goals: Fábio 26, 41, 48, Welbeck 58.

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PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	So much for briefly...

16th March 2009, 18:51	#12 (permalink)
Top Coach Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,102	Sounds brilliant, can't wait for the highlights. Cheers for the report, PS18.

16th March 2009, 19:30	#13 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	It looked like there was a camera filming in the gantry opposite us so I assume there'll be some decidedly low-tech highlights on MUTV at some point.

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Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "As relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind" Posts: 40,093	Highlights tomorrow night at 7.30pm. Can't wait

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niMic may peace and blessings of God be upon me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: And I'm all out of bubblegum. Posts: 6,424	Hope someone records it and pops it up on Youtube for the rest of us How's Eikrem coming along, by the way? Us Norwegians don't have a lot of very promising youngsters really, so we have to watch out for the ones who at least are at clubs like United (or like Nordtveit at Arsenal, who actually is a United fan). Does he look like he might have a shot at a good career or does he look like he will fade away into the background with the rest?

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uae Desperately wants a tagline under his name Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dubai Posts: 9,799	Was Fabio in his usual left back slot then PS18?

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PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	He was, although like the Rochdale site's report says, he spent so much time rampaging forward he was almost an auxiliary left-winger. Eikrem had a very good game. Would be amazed if he made it with us still, but he's a natural footballer who definitely has it in him to make it somewhere. A lot depends on how he develops physically, he's still very slight.

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Chirag Euro '08 League Winner Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,150	Great job PS18.. Now all we need are the highlights.. I can't wait for Fabio to break through to the 1st team.. Who was playing left back if Fabio was playing on the left wing?

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PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	Fabio wasn't playing on the left-wing, he was playing left-back.

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cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "Brock's a big bloke, isn't he? If you found him in bed with your girlfriend, you'd tuck him in!" Ricky Hatton during the Brock Lesnar-Randy Couture Mixed Martial Arts fight. Posts: 3,043	I'd give young Fabio a run out against Fulham. I think it is a good time to rest Evra in the process as he hasn't been at full flow since he was roasted time and time again by Aaron Lennon in the Carling Cup.

17th March 2009, 19:58	#27 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	Time and time again is a bit of an exaggeration. Evra's had plenty of rest recently with his suspension over christmas into January and then his injuries, he needs games to play himself back into form. Would rather give Fábio a go on the other flank, O'Shea's been equally poor lately and has played a lot of football.

17th March 2009, 20:17	#28 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,982	Saw the highlights, I don't want to take anything away from a solid performance but I'm pretty sure I could do a job for Rochdale reserves. Fabio, Welbeck and Macheda, to name but three, seemed to do as they damn well pleased with no troubles what so ever.

17th March 2009, 20:49	#30 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 1,913	I completely agree, just saying if he's going to get a chance I'd rather it was in a position that's a bit weak rather than one where we have a world-class player having a form dip.

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cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "Brock's a big bloke, isn't he? If you found him in bed with your girlfriend, you'd tuck him in!" Ricky Hatton during the Brock Lesnar-Randy Couture Mixed Martial Arts fight. Posts: 3,043	People had their reservations in letting Rafael loose and he went from strength to strength. Fabio made a good showing against Spurs in the FA Cup and I don't believe Fergie has ever had a fear of putting someone in.

18th March 2009, 09:06	#32 (permalink)
Devil_3565 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: God's own Country Posts: 1,675	any link to the highlights?

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x42bn6 First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 西田麻衣の開裂. Being a nerd, geek and virgin Posts: 14,591	I bet Roberto Carlos never scored a hat-trick from full-back.* * Feel free to embarrass.