Worthington drops Evans

Elliott · 6th November 2007, 13:27

Manchester United youngster Jonny Evans has been demoted to Northern Ireland's Under 21 squad.

The Belfast-born defender has been ever-present in the senior squad since making his debut against Spain in September last year.

He had been on loan at Belgian club Royal Antwerp at the time before helping Sunderland to promotion from the Championship.

But as Northern Ireland prepare for their must-win Euro 2008 qualifiers against Denmark and Spain the starlet has received disappointing news.

Disappointment

Evans missed the country's 1-1 draw in Sweden in October because of an ankle injury, and will now turn out for the Under 21s in November as boss Nigel Worthington sticks by his Stockholm stars.

The 19-year-old stopper will face Luxembourg and Moldova instead, as he looks to play his way back into Sir Alex Ferguson's plans for this season.

Evans featured in the Carling Cup exit against Coventry City at the end of September, but has failed to force his way into the senior set-up at Old Trafford since.

After doing nothing wrong last season, he's going through a bit of a rough patch now. All part of the learing experience and I'm sure he'll react the right way.

Cold_Boy · 6th November 2007, 13:35

Will be very interesting to see if he makes it at United or not.

Decotron · 6th November 2007, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Will be very interesting to see if he makes it at United or not.

Heard Sunderland are considering a 5 million bid in Jan. That would be funny McShane and Evans as their 2 centre halves.

68-99-08 · 6th November 2007, 20:23

Higginbotham on the left too. Miller and Yorke in centre mid. Team full of Utd rejects.

golden_blunder · 6th November 2007, 20:26

Worthington is a fucking idiot, he obviously didnt watch any NI matches before taking over otherwise he would have realised that Evans was our best fucking defender and one of the most consistent players throughout the qualifiers!!

Alex · 6th November 2007, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

Will be very interesting to see if he makes it at United or not.

Hmmm, dont know of many players who cant make it for Northern Ireland but can make it at United

M160RA · 6th November 2007, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Alex

Hmmm, dont know of many players who cant make it for Northern Ireland but can make it at United

It's a ludicrous statement. Evans is 19, is being kept out of his club's first team by seasoned internationals, and is being dropped from his national team by a new manager. You've got to put things into perspective.

I think a loan move to Sunderland in January would benefit all three parties.

Alex · 6th November 2007, 21:09

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Originally Posted by M160RA

It's a ludicrous statement. Evans is 19, is being kept out of his club's first team by seasoned internationals, and is being dropped from his national team by a new manager. You've got to put things into perspective.

I think a loan move to Sunderland in January would benefit all three parties.

A sale for 5.5 mil would be far better imo

Escobar · 6th November 2007, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Alex

A sale for 5.5 mil would be far better imo

Without giving him a proper chance? No.

Everyone who's talented should be given a fair chance

Alex · 6th November 2007, 21:13

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Originally Posted by Escobar

Without giving him a proper chance? No.

Everyone who's talented should be given a fair chance

Everyone is talented, just some more than others. I just dont see the Rio and Vidic partnership being broken up anytime in the near future, and you only play two a game.

PS18 · 6th November 2007, 22:06

far too early to be selling him. loan move in January to a premiership side would be perfect for him.

RedNome · 6th November 2007, 22:12

Looks as though he is behind Pique in the pecking order, so he has a tough job on his hands getting any games for us. In that regard I find it difficult to see how he could play international football without getting regular club football first.

P.S. 5.5 million is a fair chunk of change also.

Ivor Ballokov · 6th November 2007, 22:42

Hasn't he played all across the back four for NI? Stick him in goals for a bit and he could become the new o'shea

RedPhil1957 · 6th November 2007, 22:43

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Originally Posted by RedNome

Looks as though he is behind Pique in the pecking order, so he has a tough job on his hands getting any games for us. In that regard I find it difficult to see how he could play international football without getting regular club football first.

P.S. 5.5 million is a fair chunk of change also.

He got injured early in season so has not played many games of any sort this season, he is still very young especially for a defender

RedNome · 6th November 2007, 22:52

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Originally Posted by RedPhil1957

He got injured early in season so has not played many games of any sort this season, he is still very young especially for a defender

Which is why he has fallen down the pecking order and why his chances will now be limited from now on. A move might be the best for the lad, he deserves regular football.

PS18 · 6th November 2007, 23:21

he's only 19. it's not like he's been stagnating without regular football for any real length of time - if it wasn't for his early season injuries he might have got more of a chance with us by now.

we've got doubts over Brown (contract) and Silvestre (generally useless) for the future, Piqué i can't see sticking around unless he gets regular football either so the lad will get his chances. Jonny's one of the most promising academy products we've had come through in ages, i don't believe we're going to cash in on him yet. there'll be a few Premiership clubs interested in a loan in January, that would be best for all parties.

Suprah™ · 6th November 2007, 23:23

He's 19, and to be fair to him it was going to be very hard to break into the first XI with Rio/Vidic being so commanding this last/this year.

A loan move would be the best option right now for him

Cold_Boy · 7th November 2007, 05:13

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Originally Posted by Alex

Hmmm, dont know of many players who cant make it for Northern Ireland but can make it at United

I only said it would interesting to see if he makes it here or not.He is still way to young to be considered a player who didnt make it for NI. And no way we should sell him this early even if it is 5.5 mil pounds.

Red Dreams · 7th November 2007, 05:33

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Originally Posted by golden_blunder

Worthington is a fucking idiot, he obviously didnt watch any NI matches before taking over otherwise he would have realised that Evans was our best fucking defender and one of the most consistent players throughout the qualifiers!!

you tell em gb.....

hope the lad is not sold....have heard so much about him....

Alex · 7th November 2007, 06:08

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Originally Posted by Cold_Boy

I only said it would interesting to see if he makes it here or not.He is still way to young to be considered a player who didnt make it for NI. And no way we should sell him this early even if it is 5.5 mil pounds.

I know I was just being an ass, but it does hurt his future imo. I think playing in the national team would really help him develop some confidence and experience that WILL be needed to play for United.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 7th November 2007, 06:14

Worthington is a fool. I fully expect Evans to make it at United. If he doesn't it will be a real tragedy. The lad is a class talent

Bammy · 7th November 2007, 23:47

Should never have been dropped, it's a joke, especially when Sean Webb(Ross County) and Tony Capaldi(Crap, in defence at least) are in the squad.

He didn't play well in his last two games for NI against Iceland and Latvia, however there was still no need to drop hi.

EDIT-Just remembered, he was involved in a disciplinary issue during the Latvia/Iceland away trips so this may have something to do with it, still Worthington has to pick his best squad.

golden_blunder · 17th November 2007, 20:45

he's back in tonight at LB

though he shouldn't have been out in the first place

Epic · 18th November 2007, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Golden_Blunder

he shouldn't have been out in the first place

think it was because of the boozing after losing to Latvia

julesee · 18th November 2007, 11:50

how did he do?

Danish Wizard · 18th November 2007, 12:09

He played okay. It was a very difficult pitch to play at. Lots of water, and the game was almost postponed, due to the rain and the picth..
Northern Ireland played better than Denmark, and Evans did ok at the left back. Rommedahl never got past him, and he was very solid..

julesee · 18th November 2007, 14:49

cheers DW

6th November 2007, 13:27	#1 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,854	Worthington drops Evans Manchester United youngster Jonny Evans has been demoted to Northern Ireland's Under 21 squad. The Belfast-born defender has been ever-present in the senior squad since making his debut against Spain in September last year. He had been on loan at Belgian club Royal Antwerp at the time before helping Sunderland to promotion from the Championship. But as Northern Ireland prepare for their must-win Euro 2008 qualifiers against Denmark and Spain the starlet has received disappointing news. Disappointment Evans missed the country's 1-1 draw in Sweden in October because of an ankle injury, and will now turn out for the Under 21s in November as boss Nigel Worthington sticks by his Stockholm stars. The 19-year-old stopper will face Luxembourg and Moldova instead, as he looks to play his way back into Sir Alex Ferguson's plans for this season. Evans featured in the Carling Cup exit against Coventry City at the end of September, but has failed to force his way into the senior set-up at Old Trafford since. After doing nothing wrong last season, he's going through a bit of a rough patch now. All part of the learing experience and I'm sure he'll react the right way.

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6th November 2007, 13:35	#2 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Amit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: somewhere i hate to live Posts: 9,830	Will be very interesting to see if he makes it at United or not.

6th November 2007, 20:23	#4 (permalink)
68-99-08 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 710	Higginbotham on the left too. Miller and Yorke in centre mid. Team full of Utd rejects.

6th November 2007, 20:26	#5 (permalink)
golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: In the shadows fighting e-crime Posts: 45,704	Worthington is a fucking idiot, he obviously didnt watch any NI matches before taking over otherwise he would have realised that Evans was our best fucking defender and one of the most consistent players throughout the qualifiers!!

6th November 2007, 22:06	#11 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 897	far too early to be selling him. loan move in January to a premiership side would be perfect for him.

6th November 2007, 22:12	#12 (permalink)
RedNome Cnut Rating: 9(conservative) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. Posts: 12,853	Looks as though he is behind Pique in the pecking order, so he has a tough job on his hands getting any games for us. In that regard I find it difficult to see how he could play international football without getting regular club football first. P.S. 5.5 million is a fair chunk of change also.

6th November 2007, 22:42	#13 (permalink)
Ivor Ballokov Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: old south wales Posts: 3,252	Hasn't he played all across the back four for NI? Stick him in goals for a bit and he could become the new o'shea

6th November 2007, 23:21	#16 (permalink)
PS18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ruud ftw Posts: 897	he's only 19. it's not like he's been stagnating without regular football for any real length of time - if it wasn't for his early season injuries he might have got more of a chance with us by now. we've got doubts over Brown (contract) and Silvestre (generally useless) for the future, Piqué i can't see sticking around unless he gets regular football either so the lad will get his chances. Jonny's one of the most promising academy products we've had come through in ages, i don't believe we're going to cash in on him yet. there'll be a few Premiership clubs interested in a loan in January, that would be best for all parties.

6th November 2007, 23:23	#17 (permalink)
Suprah™ Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 650	He's 19, and to be fair to him it was going to be very hard to break into the first XI with Rio/Vidic being so commanding this last/this year. A loan move would be the best option right now for him

7th November 2007, 06:14	#21 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Football Fanatics Central..Equator branch Posts: 20,884	Worthington is a fool. I fully expect Evans to make it at United. If he doesn't it will be a real tragedy. The lad is a class talent

7th November 2007, 23:47	#22 (permalink)
Bammy Youth Team Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 292	Should never have been dropped, it's a joke, especially when Sean Webb(Ross County) and Tony Capaldi(Crap, in defence at least) are in the squad. He didn't play well in his last two games for NI against Iceland and Latvia, however there was still no need to drop hi. EDIT-Just remembered, he was involved in a disciplinary issue during the Latvia/Iceland away trips so this may have something to do with it, still Worthington has to pick his best squad.

17th November 2007, 20:45	#23 (permalink)
golden_blunder Manager Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: In the shadows fighting e-crime Posts: 45,704	he's back in tonight at LB though he shouldn't have been out in the first place

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julesee Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 560	how did he do?

18th November 2007, 12:09	#26 (permalink)
Danish Wizard Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the bed with a couple of beautiful woman Posts: 949	He played okay. It was a very difficult pitch to play at. Lots of water, and the game was almost postponed, due to the rain and the picth.. Northern Ireland played better than Denmark, and Evans did ok at the left back. Rommedahl never got past him, and he was very solid..

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julesee Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 560	cheers DW