Youth Reports 05/06 & 06/07 & 07/08 seasons

oskarutd · 14th October 2005, 11:55

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Originally Posted by andersj

By developed, do you mean more developed physical, right? Because I remember when Blake were about 16-17, he looked like a heavyweight boxer compared to some of his team-mates.

It is obvious that England rate them different than Man Utd.

Well, England. They didnt give Richardson any youth game until last season, even though they are crying out for wingers in the first team. They didn´t give Eagles chance either. So, I do not put too much in to their opinions. Bardsley haven´t either been caped at any level. David Jones has only less than handful of caps and isn´t regular. Enough said.

andersj · 14th October 2005, 14:07

David Jones actually has a match for the U21, but lets not forget that he is competing with Reo-Coker. Eagles are competing with Routledge and Lennon for a place in the U21, but he has played games for U17, U18, U19 and U20s.

BezsMaracas · 14th October 2005, 14:15

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Originally Posted by andersj

David Jones actually has a match for the U21, but lets not forget that he is competing with Reo-Coker. Eagles are competing with Routledge and Lennon for a place in the U21, but he has played games for U17, U18, U19 and U20s.

there was a thread in the united forum a few weeks ago about this. im convinced that its generally players who get first team football and are more physically developed, no matter what division, that get the chance of playing in the under 21's etc. i think it should be based on raw talent, not just whether they are tall, built up etc... instead we get shite that plays in the first division getting regular games for the england youth, just because they are good enough for a sub-par team, when there are far better players playing reserve football for premiership clubs. its not an easy thing to judge, but the majority of under 21's never make the grade for the first team, and its not really all that surprising.

An Extremely Boring Man · 14th October 2005, 14:18

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze666

its not an easy thing to judge, but the majority of under 21's never make the grade for the first team, and its not really all that surprising.

I think everyone bar Rooney from wednesday's line-up have represented England U21. Especially players like Robinson, Carragher, Lampard, Cole and King have quite a few U21 caps.

andersj · 14th October 2005, 14:25

TonyPark,

Who is this Bryan kiddo? Any good? I've noticed that he has gotten a few chances in the U18, but I can not find any info on him. Do you know how old he is? 1989?

The info you had on Hewson and Chester were great hope you can continue with posts like that.

Must say I am impressed with all the info you have on the players and I hope you do not mind me asking; how do you know all this? Do you follow every match or do you have a son or something?

BezsMaracas · 14th October 2005, 14:33

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Originally Posted by An Extremely Boring Man

I think everyone bar Rooney from wednesday's line-up have represented England U21. Especially players like Robinson, Carragher, Lampard, Cole and King have quite a few U21 caps.

they are ones that were playing from a young age in their respective clubs first teams, plus they probably only got the callup after they'd played a few games. its very rare that a player is picked straight from the reserves and into the under 21's, richardson and jones are the only two i can think of at united now. how many other ex-under 21's don't even make it at a decent level? (ie. close to international)

i think i just get annoyed by some of the rubbish that gets picked from division one clubs when its clear they aren't going to make it. why not take the chance on players who are obviously talented instead? surely the youth teams are about priming players for the future rather than just picking those that happen to be playing first team football. plus, most things to do with england annoy me

Danish Wizard · 14th October 2005, 15:00

Anyone know what happenede to Matthew Kendrick.??
He played for the England u-16 last season I think, and he apparently played for Manchester United..

oskarutd · 14th October 2005, 17:17

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Originally Posted by Danish Wizard

Anyone know what happenede to Matthew Kendrick.??
He played for the England u-16 last season I think, and he apparently played for Manchester United..

He played for the Welsh u-16 and was released.

oskarutd · 14th October 2005, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by andersj

David Jones actually has a match for the U21, but lets not forget that he is competing with Reo-Coker. Eagles are competing with Routledge and Lennon for a place in the U21, but he has played games for U17, U18, U19 and U20s.

One or two matches maybe, but they are not regular squad members. That is my point.

andersj · 14th October 2005, 17:41

Eagles has several matches for England at different age levels.

andersj · 14th October 2005, 17:52

As far as how I get my info...........I am a Youth historian and statistician...a book will be coming out in February/March of every player who has played in the FA Youth Cup from 1952-2003. So I keep very good records.

Tony,

Sounds great. It is good to have someone to add such profoundness to this forum.

I would really like to buy your book, but I live in Norway, do you think it will be possible for me to order it from any website? Have you decided any title?

andersj · 15th October 2005, 00:18

A player named Danny Rose scored for Englands U16 today. It must be "our" Rose, problem is, he is to old....

Anyone know if Welbeck got a chance?

15th October 2005, 02:02

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Originally Posted by andersj

A player named Danny Rose scored for Englands U16 today. It must be "our" Rose, problem is, he is to old....

Anyone know if Welbeck got a chance?

Its a different Danny Rose.

andersj · 15th October 2005, 10:36

Damn right.

westlife4ever · 17th October 2005, 14:05

Anyone knows our squad for those two u18 games? Wolves 3-2 United (24th Sept.), United 1-3 Everton (15th Oct.).

Thanks a lot if anyone could help.

oskarutd · 17th October 2005, 14:33

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Originally Posted by westlife4ever

Anyone knows our squad for those two u18 games? Wolves 3-2 United (24th Sept.), United 1-3 Everton (15th Oct.).

Thanks a lot if anyone could help.

Take a look at the newbie Forum, youth thread, there are the answers!

oskarutd · 20th October 2005, 12:42

Wes makes Reserves comeback
20/10/05 10:15 AM

Brown Returns In Rene's Bow

Wes Brown makes his return to action tonight as United's Reserves take on Middlesbrough in Rene Meulensteen's first game as manager.

The Dutchman can immediately steer United to the top of the FA Premier Reserve League with a three-goal win against the visitors, who currently lie three points ahead of the Reds at the table's summit.

Brown partners Jonny Evans in central defence, while Danny Simpson and Adam Eckersley occupy the full-back berths. Luke Steele replaces Tommy Lee in goal.

Darron Gibson misses out, leaving a midfield quartet of Markus Neumayr, David Fox, Richard Jones and Lee Martin. Giuseppe Rossi and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake continue together upfront.

United: Steele, Simpson, Eckersley, J Evans, Brown, Fox, Neumayr, R Jones, Ebanks-Blake, Rossi, Martin.
Substitutes: Lee, Cooper, Marsh, Gray, Shawcross.

Report by Steve Bartram.

By the way, Fifa has split the mikel case in three, the problem between Hauge and Lyn goes to Norwegian FA. The problem between us, Chelsea and the agentfirms goes to the English FA. Rest is delt with by FIFA. Hauge and N FA are best buddies. It´s in the Norwegian papers.

Penny · 21st October 2005, 16:16

Ngagula .. seldom heard of him of late? loaned out?

Epic · 21st October 2005, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Penny

Ngagula .. seldom heard of him of late? loaned out?

injured

oskarutd · 22nd October 2005, 18:06

We drew 2-2 against Blackburn today.
source

Gabe · 24th October 2005, 05:14

Anyone know if Wayne Rooneys' younger brother actually joined United, there were some rumours about that last September- John Rooney, should be about 14 now.

Also I read that Danny Welbeck is playing for the England U16s, he's only 14.

westlife4ever · 25th October 2005, 08:41

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Originally Posted by oskarutd

We drew 2-2 against Blackburn today.
source

Sean Evans and Ryan Shawcross scored.

don't know the line-ups though.

Danish Wizard · 25th October 2005, 09:01

Line-up against Blackburn.

Amos, Gray, Lee, Cathcart, Shawcross, C. Evans (Fagan), Mullan, Hewson, Marsh, Campbell, S. Evans. Unused subs: Moran, Norwood

Who is Norwood.?? Haven't heard about him before..

Elliott · 25th October 2005, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Danish Wizard

Who is Norwood.?? Haven't heard about him before..

he lives in thomas' pants

oskarutd · 25th October 2005, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Danish Wizard

Who is Norwood.?? Haven't heard about him before..

Oliver, he is a schoolboy. TonyParks had answered your question before you asked.

deltakaye · 26th October 2005, 08:29

FFS, why aren't the moderators promoting Tony Park???

Has there ever been a newbie forum dweller that has had so many members clamouring for his promotion?

oskarutd · 26th October 2005, 12:45

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Originally Posted by deltakaye

FFS, why aren't the moderators promoting Tony Park???

Has there ever been a newbie forum dweller that has had so many members clamouring for his promotion?

Maybe they don´t like being told what to do?

andersj · 26th October 2005, 16:04

TonyPark,
do you know when Michael Nardiello is born? Kopite claim that he is born in 1986, this can not be right, now can it?

andersj · 26th October 2005, 17:30

Thank you, do not understad why you havent been promoted yet.....

Must say I am curious about this incident. What makes Man Utd kick out one of the most talented kids at the club?

andersj · 26th October 2005, 20:40

Dave U claims to have contacted a close friend of Nardiello who agains claims that Nardiello has never been in any fight at Man Utd. Though I find this hard to believe if TonyPark says otherwise?

26th October 2005, 21:36

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Originally Posted by andersj

Dave U claims to have contacted a close friend of Nardiello who agains claims that Nardiello has never been in any fight at Man Utd. Though I find this hard to believe if TonyPark says otherwise?

I also heard that he punched one of the other United players.

miah · 27th October 2005, 00:28

Thanks GeorgeIrwell and TonyPark for the infos on the 3 Eckersleys and info on Phil Picken.

20th October 2005, 12:42	#217 (permalink)
oskarutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,290	from manutd.com Wes makes Reserves comeback 20/10/05 10:15 AM Brown Returns In Rene's Bow Wes Brown makes his return to action tonight as United's Reserves take on Middlesbrough in Rene Meulensteen's first game as manager. The Dutchman can immediately steer United to the top of the FA Premier Reserve League with a three-goal win against the visitors, who currently lie three points ahead of the Reds at the table's summit. Brown partners Jonny Evans in central defence, while Danny Simpson and Adam Eckersley occupy the full-back berths. Luke Steele replaces Tommy Lee in goal. Darron Gibson misses out, leaving a midfield quartet of Markus Neumayr, David Fox, Richard Jones and Lee Martin. Giuseppe Rossi and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake continue together upfront. United: Steele, Simpson, Eckersley, J Evans, Brown, Fox, Neumayr, R Jones, Ebanks-Blake, Rossi, Martin. Substitutes: Lee, Cooper, Marsh, Gray, Shawcross. Report by Steve Bartram. By the way, Fifa has split the mikel case in three, the problem between Hauge and Lyn goes to Norwegian FA. The problem between us, Chelsea and the agentfirms goes to the English FA. Rest is delt with by FIFA. Hauge and N FA are best buddies. It´s in the Norwegian papers.

22nd October 2005, 18:06	#220 (permalink)
oskarutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 1,290	youth team We drew 2-2 against Blackburn today. source

14th October 2005, 14:07	#202 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	David Jones actually has a match for the U21, but lets not forget that he is competing with Reo-Coker. Eagles are competing with Routledge and Lennon for a place in the U21, but he has played games for U17, U18, U19 and U20s.

14th October 2005, 14:25	#205 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	TonyPark, Who is this Bryan kiddo? Any good? I've noticed that he has gotten a few chances in the U18, but I can not find any info on him. Do you know how old he is? 1989? The info you had on Hewson and Chester were great hope you can continue with posts like that. Must say I am impressed with all the info you have on the players and I hope you do not mind me asking; how do you know all this? Do you follow every match or do you have a son or something?

14th October 2005, 15:00	#207 (permalink)
Danish Wizard Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the bed with a couple of beautiful woman Posts: 922	Anyone know what happenede to Matthew Kendrick.?? He played for the England u-16 last season I think, and he apparently played for Manchester United..

14th October 2005, 17:41	#210 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	Eagles has several matches for England at different age levels.

14th October 2005, 17:52	#211 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	As far as how I get my info...........I am a Youth historian and statistician...a book will be coming out in February/March of every player who has played in the FA Youth Cup from 1952-2003. So I keep very good records. Tony, Sounds great. It is good to have someone to add such profoundness to this forum. I would really like to buy your book, but I live in Norway, do you think it will be possible for me to order it from any website? Have you decided any title?

15th October 2005, 00:18	#212 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	A player named Danny Rose scored for Englands U16 today. It must be "our" Rose, problem is, he is to old.... Anyone know if Welbeck got a chance?

15th October 2005, 10:36	#214 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	Damn right.

17th October 2005, 14:05	#215 (permalink)
westlife4ever Youth Team Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Changsha, China Page Ranking Posts: 334	Anyone knows our squad for those two u18 games? Wolves 3-2 United (24th Sept.), United 1-3 Everton (15th Oct.). Thanks a lot if anyone could help.

21st October 2005, 16:16	#218 (permalink)
Penny Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Glazer get to a after drink brawl with Shittu, both arrested & everything called off, Mikel back playing for Lyn before joining us! Posts: 1,934	Ngagula .. seldom heard of him of late? loaned out?

24th October 2005, 05:14	#221 (permalink)
Gabe Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Gold Country Posts: 2,152	Anyone know if Wayne Rooneys' younger brother actually joined United, there were some rumours about that last September- John Rooney, should be about 14 now. Also I read that Danny Welbeck is playing for the England U16s, he's only 14.

25th October 2005, 09:01	#223 (permalink)
Danish Wizard Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the bed with a couple of beautiful woman Posts: 922	Line-up against Blackburn. Amos, Gray, Lee, Cathcart, Shawcross, C. Evans (Fagan), Mullan, Hewson, Marsh, Campbell, S. Evans. Unused subs: Moran, Norwood Who is Norwood.?? Haven't heard about him before..

26th October 2005, 08:29	#226 (permalink)
deltakaye Youth Team Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 117	FFS, why aren't the moderators promoting Tony Park??? Has there ever been a newbie forum dweller that has had so many members clamouring for his promotion?

26th October 2005, 16:04	#228 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	TonyPark, do you know when Michael Nardiello is born? Kopite claim that he is born in 1986, this can not be right, now can it?

26th October 2005, 17:30	#229 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	Thank you, do not understad why you havent been promoted yet..... Must say I am curious about this incident. What makes Man Utd kick out one of the most talented kids at the club?

26th October 2005, 20:40	#230 (permalink)
andersj Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565	Dave U claims to have contacted a close friend of Nardiello who agains claims that Nardiello has never been in any fight at Man Utd. Though I find this hard to believe if TonyPark says otherwise?

27th October 2005, 00:28	#232 (permalink)
miah Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ♡Scholesy Posts: 2,097	Thanks GeorgeIrwell and TonyPark for the infos on the 3 Eckersleys and info on Phil Picken.