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Old 7th January 2009, 23:08   #81 (permalink)
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No, Vidic is worth 26m.
Is he though?

I wouldn't sell him for £30m.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:09   #82 (permalink)
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Ha ha you are very funny.
No. He is just a stupid and obnoxious individual.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:10   #83 (permalink)
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Is he though?

I wouldn't sell him for £30m.
Clubs usually pay way over the market value to get a player.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:11   #84 (permalink)
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Well you are a bunch of clever clogs aren't you?

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http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/verei...tartseite.html
Never seen this site before - obviously cant agree with it all but it is not too far off in general
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:12   #85 (permalink)
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No. He is just a stupid and obnoxious individual.
obnoxious and sarcastic.

Plus he has a thing against Norwegian sites and keeps on mentioning FIFA and playstation for no reason.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:12   #86 (permalink)
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Clubs usually pay way over the market value to get a player.
Well then market value's irrelevant and pointless, if that's the case.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:13   #87 (permalink)
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Never seen this site before - obviously cant agree with it all but it is not too far off in general
Tell Jason that.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:13   #88 (permalink)
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Well then market value's irrelevant, if that's the case.
No its not, because thats where we start from.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:15   #89 (permalink)
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No its not, because thats where we start from.
But it's entirely subjective.

I could just make my own list of player values, and say that Vidic is worth £5, and say that the opposition are worth more than us.

That's why it's irrelevant.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:18   #90 (permalink)
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But it's entirely subjective.

I could just make my own list of player values, and say that Vidic is worth £5, and say that the opposition are worth more than us.

That's why it's irrelevant.
Its more complicated than that.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:20   #91 (permalink)
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Well you are a bunch of clever clogs aren't you?

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http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/verei...tartseite.html
I'm reading no further!

Fuck off!

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Old 7th January 2009, 23:23   #92 (permalink)
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I'm reading no further!

Fuck off!

What is so funny?

Here is the English version of the site:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ba...tartseite.html

All amounts quoted seem to be correct.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:24   #93 (permalink)
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Its more complicated than that.
Obviously, the point remains.

Who's to say it's right that Evans is only worth £1m, or that Vidic is worth £7m less than Rio?

I'd strongly disagree.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:25   #94 (permalink)
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What is so funny?

Here is the English version of the site:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ba...tartseite.html

All amounts quoted seem to be correct.
I don't give a fuck about what some website says...

for a start there's no chance we'd sell VDS for £4M...
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:30   #95 (permalink)
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Well you are a bunch of clever clogs aren't you?

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http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/verei...tartseite.html
Some mental values in there in fairness ... anyway your point stands, we were shocking but as usual the caf needs to calm.
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:35   #96 (permalink)
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Some mental values in there in fairness ... anyway your point stands, we were shocking but as usual the caf needs to calm.
Another normal answer
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:38   #97 (permalink)
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Ive played around with that site a bit and I think it is actually quite interesting - of course no one is going to agree with every valuation but the main fault seems to be that they give very low values to any of our youth players

I think the UnofficialDevil main fault was not explaining how he came up with the £140m figure in his first post - left himself wide open for abuse tbh and it had gone too far by the time he explained himself

It is amusing how the Caf randomly jumps on certain posters every so often and gives them an e-beating !
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Old 7th January 2009, 23:47   #98 (permalink)
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Ive played around with that site a bit and I think it is actually quite interesting - of course no one is going to agree with every valuation but the main fault seems to be that they give very low values to any of our youth players

I think the UnofficialDevil main fault was not explaining how he came up with the £140m figure in his first post - left himself wide open for abuse tbh and it had gone too far by the time he explained himself

It is amusing how the Caf randomly jumps on certain posters every so often and gives them an e-beating !
Try telling Mr Sarcastic Jasonhr that.

But thanks for actually trying to understand what I was saying.
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Old 8th January 2009, 00:17   #99 (permalink)
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What is so funny?

Here is the English version of the site:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ba...tartseite.html

All amounts quoted seem to be correct.
That site says Giggs is worth £9.6mil. We'd be lucky to have gotten that for him 4 or 5 years ago.

Claiming a certain value for our starting 11 is always a bad idea (even if you had claimed some "source" to start with), surely it's much easier to point out the fact that we had a reasonably experienced side out there (Welbeck, Gibson and Rafael aside, they've all been part of a Premier League first team for over a year) and we should've done better?
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Old 8th January 2009, 00:31   #100 (permalink)
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That site says Giggs is worth £9.6mil. We'd be lucky to have gotten that for him 4 or 5 years ago.

Claiming a certain value for our starting 11 is always a bad idea (even if you had claimed some "source" to start with), surely it's much easier to point out the fact that we had a reasonably experienced side out there (Welbeck, Gibson and Rafael aside, they've all been part of a Premier League first team for over a year) and we should've done better?
Yes you are probably right.Anyway I have started a thread called Transfermarkt to try and redeem my self.
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Old 8th January 2009, 00:37   #101 (permalink)
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This is a shite thread tbf...
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Old 8th January 2009, 01:29   #102 (permalink)
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No its illegal..
Why don't you name one amount quoted on the site that you find exaggerated.
Owen Hargreaves 18.24 million, Ryan giggs 9.6 million, Nani 18.24 illion.
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Old 8th January 2009, 01:35   #103 (permalink)
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Well you are a bunch of clever clogs aren't you?

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http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ve...tartseite.html
You've had one here mate
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Old 8th January 2009, 03:13   #104 (permalink)
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No, Vidic is worth 26m.
According to the numbers posted he's not...

Vidic - £6,750,000
Evans - £7,750,000
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Old 8th January 2009, 15:16   #106 (permalink)
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According to the numbers posted he's not...

Vidic - £6,750,000
Evans - £7,750,000
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ve...tartseite.html
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Old 8th January 2009, 19:31   #107 (permalink)
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According to the numbers posted he's not...

Vidic - £6,750,000
Evans - £7,750,000
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Vidic - £6,750,000
Evans - £7,750,000

My source is just as valid as yours.

It's a time machine.

Well, it's FM09.

In 2015.
They're not his figures.
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Old 8th January 2009, 19:50   #108 (permalink)
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They're not his figures.
I didn't say they were his figures.
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Old 8th January 2009, 20:37   #109 (permalink)
 
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Does FM09 do the lottery numbers by any chance?
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Old 8th January 2009, 20:48   #110 (permalink)
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Does FM09 do the lottery numbers by any chance?
Pick a random team of reserves. then rank palyers in order of one of the stats. eg. penalty taking ability. The take the first 6 off the list!

And hope that the team you've picked has really random squad numbers or that most of the numbers that come out in the lottery are between 1 and 15
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Pick a random team of reserves. then rank palyers in order of one of the stats. eg. penalty taking ability. The take the first 6 off the list!

And hope that the team you've picked has really random squad numbers or that most of the numbers that come out in the lottery are between 1 and 15
I'll share the winnings with you.
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Old 8th January 2009, 20:54   #112 (permalink)
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Cheers. It's as good as money in the bank.
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Old 8th January 2009, 23:09   #113 (permalink)
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Sorry but the likes of Nani and Gibson haven't proven anything to me this season while Anderson and Tevez look like shadows to what they were doing last season.. Our "super youngsters, our youngsters>>>>>Arsenal's" are imploding from what they were doing last season... Get in there SAF and sort them out!

Wouldn't mind the result if we actually played a young squad but we didn't and have to accept the fact it was a poor result after a bunch of one - nil performances... We need Chelsea to boost us!
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