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Old 17th September 2007, 12:53   #81 (permalink)
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Parks one I think we miss, his running sees him get into goal scoring positions, he blows most of them but atleast it makes the opposition jittery which makes opportunity for others.
Yes, I agree. He's a pest to defenders.
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Old 17th September 2007, 12:53   #82 (permalink)
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we've been missing Carra, Gerrard and Kewell. we've all had injuries, its a squad game, moaning about injuries isnt good enough, a team like Man U should have cover
You mong. Since when were carra gerrard and kewell your 3 most important attacking players?
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Old 17th September 2007, 12:58   #83 (permalink)
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You mong. Since when were carra gerrard and kewell your 3 most important attacking players?


We have missed our top 3 scorers
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:00   #84 (permalink)
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if i could throw my two bobs worth into this debate...

i'll say it quietly but i think it was a massive oversight from Fergie not to buy an out and out striker. Its obvious that rooney or tevez up front in a 4-5-1 leaves us toothless and predictable.

Saha changed the nature of what we looked like...essentially at home against relegation fodder...a team we did not look dangerous against for the majority of the first half.

Unfortunately it looks like it was a mistake, fergie makes them occasionally but now its about dealing with the situation at hand.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:02   #85 (permalink)
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if i could throw my two bobs worth into this debate...

i'll say it quietly but i think it was a massive oversight from Fergie not to buy an out and out striker. Its obvious that rooney or tevez up front in a 4-5-1 leaves us toothless and predictable.

Saha changed the nature of what we looked like...essentially at home against relegation fodder...a team we did not look dangerous against for the majority of the first half.

Unfortunately it looks like it was a mistake, fergie makes them occasionally but now its about dealing with the situation at hand.
Aye I agree it was a mistake (although to be fair Tevez and Rooney could still work). It wouldnt have been so bad if Saha was so injurey prone mind. I think Fergie wanted Berbatov and wasn't prepared to look anywhere else. He can be a bit single minded sometimes.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:04   #86 (permalink)
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Not many good centre forwards on the market that would suit our style. I'm sure the lot in the transfer forum would beg to differ though.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:05   #87 (permalink)
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Aye I agree it was a mistake (although to be fair Tevez and Rooney could still work). It wouldnt have been so bad if Saha was so injurey prone mind. I think Fergie wanted Berbatov and wasn't prepared to look anywhere else. He can be a bit single minded sometimes.
Ideally, we would have four strikers, and four different ones. But I would like to see how the Tevez / Rooney combination work out before I'd give a judgement over whether it was a mistake or not. They are two fantastic talents, and if it works, it can be sensational - potentially the best pairing we have ever had.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:05   #88 (permalink)
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Aye I agree it was a mistake (although to be fair Tevez and Rooney could still work). It wouldnt have been so bad if Saha was so injurey prone mind. I think Fergie wanted Berbatov and wasn't prepared to look anywhere else. He can be a bit single minded sometimes.
its unfortunate actually, i think berbatov looks a bit downcast at spurs at the moment, shame for the lad.

Problem was he (fergie) knows and has known about saha's injury problems for a long time now, it was staring most people in the face we needed a player who could knock in the goals, as another option of nothing else.

I think its unfair to expect another season like last from Ronnie, id maybe expect 12-15 goals from the kid, but to expect the same haul again may be leave people a tad dissapointed
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:06   #89 (permalink)
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Not many good centre forwards on the market that would suit our style.
possbily right on that comment
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:06   #90 (permalink)
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Not many good centre forwards on the market that would suit our style.
Surely Anelka or Martins should have been worth a go if they were both available for as cheap as the papers were quoting? Fast, pacey and direct strikers in the Saha mold. Not sure Anelka would have been happy to sit on the bench mind but I would rather have that problem that having no one on the bench at all.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:08   #91 (permalink)
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Surely Anelka or Martins should have been worth a go if they were both available for as cheap as the papers were quoting? Fast, pacey and direct strikers in the Saha mold. Not sure Anelka would have been happy to sit on the bench mind but I would rather have that problem that having no one on the bench at all.
Martins - overrated headless chicken

Anelka - HUGE gamble!
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:08   #92 (permalink)
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Ideally, we would have four strikers, and four different ones. But I would like to see how the Tevez / Rooney combination work out before I'd give a judgement over whether it was a mistake or not. They are two fantastic talents, and if it works, it can be sensational - potentially the best pairing we have ever had.
Most fail to realise that the said new signing would have contend with a bench role for 3-4 games at times

Can't see any of the names thrown by the muppets would agree to that
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:08   #93 (permalink)
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We're still a fucking brilliant team.

Carrying on the same form as last season was almost impossible.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:09   #94 (permalink)
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Surely Anelka or Martins should have been worth a go if they were both available for as cheap as the papers were quoting? Fast, pacey and direct strikers in the Saha mold. Not sure Anelka would have been happy to sit on the bench mind but I would rather have that problem that having no one on the bench at all.
Think Anelka may have been an opportunity before the season started, once Sammy lost his first two games, convincingly and he was the only shining light it was clear he wasn't going anywhere. Martins is another midget and he's really 36 or something.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:10   #95 (permalink)
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Liverpool and Arsenal are playing quality football, and are two points ahead of a team playing shit who couldn't buy a goal at the moment.

I'm happy with that.

You all know what will happen when we come good.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:11   #96 (permalink)
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Martins - overrated headless chicken

Anelka - HUGE gamble!
Both better than Dong or who ever the fuck our fourth striker is supposed to be now. Also both scored goals in the Premiership and both play the position wee are lacking most in. Both have pace that would fit our style.

Aye they would have been a gamble, but it would have been better to have one of them than to not have. Anelka could have worked I think.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:11   #97 (permalink)
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serious question, and looking for serious answers. 5 goals in 11 Premiership games, stuttering in front of goal all season, are you concerned? i know you have been without Rooney and Ronaldo, but can you really expect Ronaldo to have another 20 goal season like last year, and Rooney has never really been prolific in front of goal, and Tevez looks a bit fat and shit.

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Old 17th September 2007, 13:11   #98 (permalink)
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sorry, it was 11 games, not league games.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:12   #99 (permalink)
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Both better than Dong or who ever the fuck our fourth striker is supposed to be now. Also both scored goals in the Premiership and both play the position wee are lacking most in. Both have pace that would fit our style.

Aye they would have been a gamble, but it would have been better to have one of them than to not have. Anelka could have worked I think.
Both would expect to play regularly as well...
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:12   #100 (permalink)
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We're still a fucking brilliant team.

Carrying on the same form as last season was almost impossible.
That's a problem when you play an attacking brand of football. When it comes of you get goals a plenty and looks wonderful, when the teams a bit out of form and not clicking it's noticable. Just glad we're winning at the moment. The goals will be back soon.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:15   #101 (permalink)
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serious question, and looking for serious answers. 5 goals in 11 Premiership games, stuttering in front of goal all season, are you concerned? i know you have been without Rooney and Ronaldo, but can you really expect Ronaldo to have another 20 goal season like last year, and Rooney has never really been prolific in front of goal, and Tevez looks a bit fat and shit.
Tevez most certainly is not shit and just needs time to get match fitness and get himself familiar with his new surroundings.

The problem they are having is it is clear that their management have slightly tweaked their style of play and their main proven attacking players in the final third have missed most of the start of the season. Last few games they have got some fortunate results but you could argue their first three games they deserved 7 points but only had 2 to show for their efforts.

People writing teams off after 5 or 6 games is just stupid, as stupid as people as some fans getting carried away after a good start and thinking their long wait for a title is over Long long time to go yet, after around 15 games the table really starts to take shape.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:16   #102 (permalink)
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:16   #103 (permalink)
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Most fail to realise that the said new signing would have contend with a bench role for 3-4 games at times

Can't see any of the names thrown by the muppets would agree to that
I think most would be content with the bench at United
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Both would expect to play regularly as well...
I expect most would have said the same about Tevez as well. And that is a problem for Sir Alex. At least he would have that problem. Lets face it Anelka/Tevez up front would look an awful lot better than Giggs/Tevez. They're both ideal replacements for Rooney and Saha
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:21   #106 (permalink)
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I expect most would have said the same about Tevez as well. And that is a problem for Sir Alex. At least he would have that problem. Lets face it Anelka/Tevez up front would look an awful lot better than Giggs/Tevez. They're both ideal replacements for Rooney and Saha
Yes, Anelka / Tevez would on paper and probably in real life be better up front that Giggs / Tevez.

Problem is, both Tevez and Anelka consider themselves superstars. It's hard enough keeping 3 attacking superstars happy. 4 would be near on impossible.

We'll be fine, we'll soon be banging the goals in.
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:22   #107 (permalink)
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Most teams need time after they made some signifiant signings. United bought 4 new player and that needs time. Other teams havent found their best form yet, either, just look at Barca with Henry
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Old 17th September 2007, 13:25   #108 (permalink)
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Tevez most certainly is not shit and just needs time to get match fitness and get himself familiar with his new surroundings.

The problem they are having is it is clear that their management have slightly tweaked their style of play and their main proven attacking players in the final third have missed most of the start of the season. Last few games they have got some fortunate results but you could argue their first three games they deserved 7 points but only had 2 to show for their efforts.

People writing teams off after 5 or 6 games is just stupid, as stupid as people as some fans getting carried away after a good start and thinking their long wait for a title is over Long long time to go yet, after around 15 games the table really starts to take shape.
This is what baffles me this season. It's just not the fans but even the press and the pundits. It's just been 5 games, all the talk of title race is non sense right now.
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