Abu Dhabi or Glazer

Sky1981

Supposedly we can choose who took us over from PLC.

Abu Dhabi or Glazer?

I'd pick Glazer

krazyrobus

I'd pick Glazers except for the debt.

esmufc07

Glazer.

crappycraperson

Abu Dhabi, all the debt could yet have big consequences.

girish

Atleast the glazers, allows Fergie, Gill, scouts to do their job.

Dippersripper

Neither

Utd heap

Jesus fucking christ.

Sultan

Myself

Twisted_Woody

Tough call - the real question is this - with Glazer can we still compete?

Utd heap

I'd be behind that!

Cantona07

Football wise - Glazer

Financial wise - Well.....

Twisted_Woody

If we can compete football wise the financial aspect doesn't matter as much does it?

Pogue Mahone

What exactly, football-wise, has the Abu Dhabi crew done wrong?

This has to be the most stupid and obvious question ever. Would I prefer to:

A) watch the best run club in the land get plunged almost a billion quid in debt, in a heavily leveraged takeover, a couple of years before a global economic melt-down?

B) watch an unbelievably wealthy consortium prepare to invest hundreds of millions of pounds of their own money in the club?

Hmmm... Let me see....

snootyjim

Well obviously, but if point B) is at the cost of turning into a complete joke with every trophy bought with oil, and Ferguson being left at the wayside as the most crucial thing becomes playing the best player in the world at every position, whether or not they help the team, and Glazer looks like a much nicer guy than normal.

Of course, it's a big if.

Pogue Mahone

Let's wait and see, eh?

Their first week in control has been a lot less damaging than the Glazer's first week in charge of MUFC.

About 600million quid less damaging.

Seriously, it's a dumb question.

Utd heap

The sort of thread that makes me want to forget i ever saw it...

Some of the replies are worse than the idea of the question

Instant Karma

We have broken the British record transfer fee probably more than any other club. Our first team in a couple of years time once Giggs/Scholes/Neville retire would probably be more expensive than Chelsea's.

To win trophies in this league, buying expensive and quality players is a necessity. Arsenal don't buy expensive and Liverpool dont buy quality and both are struggling to even compete over the last few seasons.

snootyjim

You missed off the crucial point where I said oil. I'm perfectly happy for any club to spend millions of pounds that they've earned from success, but I've no respect for clubs like City, Chelsea and Fulham.

esmufc07

Or QPR.

Instant Karma

They cant be successful in the current scenario unless they invest several hundred million. That money has to come from somewhere else as they havent been successful in the past. What you are essentially saying is that unsuccessful clubs shouldn't be allowed to sign better players and start to compete for titles which is nonsense.

crappycraperson

That's worse than going under? Having your assets stripped off by the bank due to debts?

krazyrobus

So far so good for them, but so was Roman. What if they decide to have a more hands on approach, not interested in having an owner have a power struggle with SAF. The glazers have been good that way and let SAF do his thing.

Sky1981

The Abu Dhabi is like playing FM with cheat

Seriously, if we got the hold of Abu Dhabi, I'm afraid 20 years down the road people are saying we are buying the trophy.

at least now I am feeling like we're good guys here.

UnofficialDevil

Abu Dhabi.

vijay

Abu Dhabi

Abu Dhabi, they are atleast passionate about Football...There is no way we can wipe out our debts completely unless some one big takes over or I become a billionaire

peterstorey

I don't believe that they're going to stump up endless cash. If it was a money-no-object game they'd have bought Liverpool or Spurs. But that would have cost £1Bn (acquisition + stadium) plus say £200M for players. This way they're only spending say £400M inclusive of players to be in play.

FresnoBob

This thread reminds me a bit of that old story about George Bernard Shaw and the young lady that ended with the lady asking "What do you think I am, a whore?" To which Shaw replied, "We've established that, now we're just haggling over the price."

afrocentricity

Debt aside the Glazers have been ok, I know the top reds are going to rip into this post but what have the glazers done wrong? Put the club in (apparently managable) debt, raised ticket prices and introduced the ACL.

On the bright side they brought in a few sponsorship deals, allowed us to sign big and didn't cash in on Ronnie. Most importantly for me, they have stayed out of footballing matters and left that stuff to the people that know what they are doing.

That is no endorsement of the Glazers but given the alternatives:
Embarrassing and/or transfer Muppet owners.
FM owners that want to interfere in footballing matters.
Tight managers that see no benefit in regularly strengthening...etc.

I despise the way City and the Dippers (especially) whore themselves out to eccentric sugar daddies 'to stay competitive'. Which is one of the reasons I still have a grudging respect for Arsenal.

We are one of the few clubs that aren't being bankrolled to success. I take pride in that ... debt and all.

711

Well put, but I'm afraid it may as well be written in Martian for half the cafe, who will happily post for page after page to "prove" that the debt doesn't matter.

Anyway, as for the Ayrabs, what we don't know yet is whether they regard their purchase as an investment, buying success in order to make more money, in which case there are quite a few trying the same thing.
Or whether they regard their purchase as a hobby which they are quite prepared to spend a lot of money on just for the glory, now that could be nasty.

afrocentricity

^The best answer in this thread...

afrocentricity

Everyone knows about the debt, it's a shame as if there were no debt I don't actually think there would be much negativity towards the Glazers... I'm choosing to be optimistic about it though, some choose not to... fair enough. Different strokes, different folk and all that.