Alas poor Carrick...forsooth, he's quite good now!

Man-United · 24th January 2012, 17:42

Wish we had him when playing Basel away.

Elliott · 24th January 2012, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Pimpy the Magic Elf

Rooney on the other hand is so frustrating to watch...

But that's a discussion for another time...

Yeah, I fucking hate watching world class players play for my team.

Varun_Utd · 24th January 2012, 17:46

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Originally Posted by cw1984

You're wrong. I'm a Carrick fan and I aknowledge he's very important to out side but most important? No.

Depends on how you'd judge importance though, doesnt it? Who in your opinion is the most important cw? Consider the backup we have for him and then the backup we have for carrick. Thats how i judge his importance. The only midfielder in our squad capable of doing his job.

MG · 24th January 2012, 17:56

He's been really consistent for a fair while and there hasn't been much mention of it - not really fair when we consider how much he's been decimated in the past. Much has been made of our midfield woes but we haven't been so bad there recently - I thought it was good against Arsenal (first half particularly).

I'm not Carrick's biggest fan but I'm really glad for him that he's doing so well currently, and he should be the first starter in our midfield at the moment.

MacMUFC · 24th January 2012, 17:58

Amazing people cant see he's easily the most important player to us right now, it really is...

Feed Me · 24th January 2012, 21:02

Carrick's been steadily improving since around March 2011. By and large, his form has been terrific. He's the form central midfielder in the Premier League - no credit though.

No matter, you know he's on his game when the critics are silenced - that's as good as it gets. They'll pipe up next time he has an under par game.

What's most noticeable is his sudden willingness to mix up the 'safe' passes with the attacking ones.

What has caused the sudden surge of confidence? His 18 months of poor form coincided with a niggling injury or two, perhaps he is now in tip-top physical shape? Perhaps he has suddenly realised that his inferiority relative to Barca's midfield doesn't mean he needs to regress into his shell? Perhaps he's taken Fergie's advice and realised, at 30, that it's now his time to run the midfield?

In this form, he's a class act and where the debate once raged over who should replace him, it's now centred on who should play alongside him. That's a real positive for us because we need continuity in midfield and Carrick's got the ability, excepting injuries, to play 50 games a season. And with regular midfield selections, we'll get better rhythm and understanding in that area.

adexkola · 24th January 2012, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Pimpy the Magic Elf

Discuss...

No. He was out early during the season, and we had a great run back then. He's indispensable in the cover he gives to the defense, but he's not our most important player. If he is, there's a problem somewhere.

And his critics have shut up, and he's been getting praise, because... wait for it... he's been playing very well

Feed Me · 24th January 2012, 21:19

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Originally Posted by adexkola

No. He was out early during the season, and we had a great run back then. He's indispensable in the cover he gives to the defense, but he's not our most important player. If he is, there's a problem somewhere.

And his critics have shut up, and he's been getting praise, because... wait for it... he's been playing very well

You could argue the lack of a viable alternative to him makes him indispensable and, at least, one of our most important players.

We're never as cohesive without him in the side - we don't attack as well, and we don't look as secure defensively.

adexkola · 24th January 2012, 21:28

He is one of our most important players. There you have it, I'm a pedantic bastard

I think we miss Vidic more. As good as Smalling, Evans and Rio have been, you just can't replace Vidic out there.

Feed Me · 24th January 2012, 21:31

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Originally Posted by adexkola

He is one of our most important players. There you have it, I'm a pedantic bastard

I think we miss Vidic more. As good as Smalling, Evans and Rio have been, you just can't replace Vidic out there.

Yeah, I'd go with that.

fanutd · 28th January 2012, 13:28

What a player

Its like the roles have completely reversed, 2-3 seasons ago Carrick looked to scholes to pull the strings and keep ball under pressure and now the opposite!

Sean_RedDevil · 28th January 2012, 13:34

And according to Fergie he plays with an injury in this game too.

Eriku · 28th January 2012, 13:35

That left foot volley to switch the play... Such awareness and execution.

Having a nucleus of him and Scholes again is pure sex at times

fanutd · 28th January 2012, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Eriku

That left foot volley to switch the play... Such awareness and execution.

Having a nucleus of him and Scholes again is pure sex at times

That was stunning. I suspected it was going no-where until it got to Valencia and well... I was just

Interval Level · 28th January 2012, 15:24

I thought he was very very good. Defensively did very well. And some of the passing was just brilliant.

Stobzilla · 28th January 2012, 15:26

Great game from him today. Did such a good job shielding the back four and his passing was excellent again.

kouroux · 28th January 2012, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eriku

That left foot volley to switch the play... Such awareness and execution.

Having a nucleus of him and Scholes again is pure sex at times

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanutd

That was stunning. I suspected it was going no-where until it got to Valencia and well... I was just

I agree

Interval Level · 28th January 2012, 15:33

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Originally Posted by kouroux

I agree

I raise you that with the through ball for Welbeck which put him 1v1

Pogue Mahone · 31st January 2012, 23:16

Really good AGAIN.

Our best player this season IMO.

Rado_N · 31st January 2012, 23:20

Agreed. There was a thread in the newbies recently about the player of the season so far and I said in there that I can't look past him; he's been by far our most consistent performer.

Kraftwerker · 31st January 2012, 23:27

Proverbial first name on the team sheet.

Helps having a rejuvenated Scholes who's playing like he's just found an extra credit in the arcade machine when he thought it was Game Over.

DocRockter · 31st January 2012, 23:30

Easy game tonight.. Should have maybe scored with the two chances but overall a good performance.

Also hope he didn't get a concussion in the 2nd half.. Can't deal with another injury right now..

Badunk · 31st January 2012, 23:31

When he plays like this, there is no controversy, no dividing of opinion and no doubt as to his quality. If he was to keep playing this well for the next 3 months (touch wood), he will walk it as our player of the season.

Wittmann45 · 31st January 2012, 23:40

I think he struggled a bit to get into the game, but as soon as he got into the game, Stoke had no chance

Eriku · 1st February 2012, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

Proverbial first name on the team sheet.

Helps having a rejuvenated Scholes who's playing like he's just found an extra credit in the arcade machine when he thought it was Game Over.

hungrywing · 1st February 2012, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraftwerker

Proverbial first name on the team sheet.

Helps having a rejuvenated Scholes who's playing like he's just found an extra credit in the arcade machine when he thought it was Game Over.

Nice one.

Cutch · 5th February 2012, 18:08

Fantastic performance today. Did he give the ball away once?

adexkola · 5th February 2012, 18:08

I wouldn't call his performance fantastic.

amolbhatia100 · 5th February 2012, 18:12

He was alright today. I thought it wasn't the highest quality match to be honest. Rafael and De Gea stood out for me.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 5th February 2012, 18:14

Save for letting Luiz go for that goal, he was awesome. That long ball in second half to the flank for example was something else.

charlenefan · 5th February 2012, 18:44

I thought he was brilliant today, bar far the best midfielder on the pitch

mu77 · 5th February 2012, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlenefan

I thought he was brilliant today, bar far the best midfielder on the pitch

paul scholes - in the short time he was on he sprayed the ball wing to wing and finally gave united the wingers space they could make earlier. game changer.

Carrick was pretty f'n good except for not marking anyone in the box on the 3rd goal.

Vidic_In_Moscow · 5th February 2012, 19:49

Well disciplined and some great tackles and interceptions. I'd say it's almost impossible for Carrick to have a bad game with Giggs and/or Scholes in the same team though, they compliment him so well and make his job 10 x easier, and allow him the space to play his natural game.

Sw33t · 5th February 2012, 19:51

He's been in absolutely cracking form this season. Deffo one of our best players, wouldn't want us to play a team without him in it at the moment.

Legend16 · 5th February 2012, 19:54

SAF challenged him to take centre mid by the scruff of the neck a few months ago. He has done that. brilliant form by him and one of the first names on the team sheet for big games now. great game today

Fergies Formula · 5th February 2012, 19:54

passing percentage??

Cheesy · 5th February 2012, 20:02

I might get slated by some for saying this, but I don't think he was as good as some people are saying today. He was solid, but not spectacular. I certainly don't think he was MOTM as some people were suggesting.

elmo · 5th February 2012, 20:06

I thought he and Giggs looked average till Scholes came on.

Ash_G · 5th February 2012, 20:11

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Originally Posted by cj4_elmo

I thought he and Giggs looked average till Scholes came on.

I thought they were fine, we just needed to use the ball better in their final third. Were it not for the stupid goals we were largely in control. In attack we were a bit slow and so let chelsea get back in numbers. Once we turned up the pace though we cut through them pretty easy it was just the final ball.

Pogue Mahone · 5th February 2012, 21:57

I didn't watch the game live so was able to judge it without being pissed off about the scoreline. We bossed midfield the whole game. Carrick was the best midfielder on the pitch.

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24th January 2012, 17:42	#4161 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,422	Wish we had him when playing Basel away.

24th January 2012, 17:56	#4164 (permalink)
MG First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is NOT a porn star. Posts: 11,444	He's been really consistent for a fair while and there hasn't been much mention of it - not really fair when we consider how much he's been decimated in the past. Much has been made of our midfield woes but we haven't been so bad there recently - I thought it was good against Arsenal (first half particularly). I'm not Carrick's biggest fan but I'm really glad for him that he's doing so well currently, and he should be the first starter in our midfield at the moment.

24th January 2012, 17:58	#4165 (permalink)
MacMUFC Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,355	Amazing people cant see he's easily the most important player to us right now, it really is...

24th January 2012, 21:02	#4166 (permalink)
Feed Me I'm hungry Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: twobrightsparks.tumblr.com Posts: 20,152	Carrick's been steadily improving since around March 2011. By and large, his form has been terrific. He's the form central midfielder in the Premier League - no credit though. No matter, you know he's on his game when the critics are silenced - that's as good as it gets. They'll pipe up next time he has an under par game. What's most noticeable is his sudden willingness to mix up the 'safe' passes with the attacking ones. What has caused the sudden surge of confidence? His 18 months of poor form coincided with a niggling injury or two, perhaps he is now in tip-top physical shape? Perhaps he has suddenly realised that his inferiority relative to Barca's midfield doesn't mean he needs to regress into his shell? Perhaps he's taken Fergie's advice and realised, at 30, that it's now his time to run the midfield? In this form, he's a class act and where the debate once raged over who should replace him, it's now centred on who should play alongside him. That's a real positive for us because we need continuity in midfield and Carrick's got the ability, excepting injuries, to play 50 games a season. And with regular midfield selections, we'll get better rhythm and understanding in that area.

24th January 2012, 21:28	#4169 (permalink)
adexkola American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. "Football Was Alright As Long as We Were Winning Everything And Everybody Knew Their Place" Posts: 13,115	He is one of our most important players. There you have it, I'm a pedantic bastard I think we miss Vidic more. As good as Smalling, Evans and Rio have been, you just can't replace Vidic out there.

28th January 2012, 13:28	#4171 (permalink)
fanutd Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 848	What a player Its like the roles have completely reversed, 2-3 seasons ago Carrick looked to scholes to pull the strings and keep ball under pressure and now the opposite!

28th January 2012, 13:34	#4172 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	And according to Fergie he plays with an injury in this game too.

28th January 2012, 13:35	#4173 (permalink)
Eriku First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ørsta, Norway Posts: 8,659	That left foot volley to switch the play... Such awareness and execution. Having a nucleus of him and Scholes again is pure sex at times

28th January 2012, 15:24	#4175 (permalink)
Interval Level First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oh Teddy Teddy Posts: 7,085	I thought he was very very good. Defensively did very well. And some of the passing was just brilliant.

28th January 2012, 15:26	#4176 (permalink)
Stobzilla Official Team Perv Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: sir alex macheda fergsuson the bumble king. i respect david moyer but he is fragile like china Posts: 8,500	Great game from him today. Did such a good job shielding the back four and his passing was excellent again.

31st January 2012, 23:16	#4179 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 62,724	Really good AGAIN. Our best player this season IMO.

31st January 2012, 23:20	#4180 (permalink)
Rado_N Came from nowhere, yet still a better modmin than Weaste ever was Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy meshy mushy, motherfucker Posts: 45,386	Agreed. There was a thread in the newbies recently about the player of the season so far and I said in there that I can't look past him; he's been by far our most consistent performer.

31st January 2012, 23:27	#4181 (permalink)
Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country. Posts: 10,281	Proverbial first name on the team sheet. Helps having a rejuvenated Scholes who's playing like he's just found an extra credit in the arcade machine when he thought it was Game Over.

31st January 2012, 23:30	#4182 (permalink)
DocRockter Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 2,266	Easy game tonight.. Should have maybe scored with the two chances but overall a good performance. Also hope he didn't get a concussion in the 2nd half.. Can't deal with another injury right now..

31st January 2012, 23:31	#4183 (permalink)
Badunk First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse Posts: 9,655	When he plays like this, there is no controversy, no dividing of opinion and no doubt as to his quality. If he was to keep playing this well for the next 3 months (touch wood), he will walk it as our player of the season.

31st January 2012, 23:40	#4184 (permalink)
Wittmann45 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 'Keep the flag flying Jimmy' Posts: 4,581	I think he struggled a bit to get into the game, but as soon as he got into the game, Stoke had no chance

5th February 2012, 18:08	#4187 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3102, Row 2, Seat 129 Posts: 7,389	Fantastic performance today. Did he give the ball away once?

5th February 2012, 18:08	#4188 (permalink)
adexkola American Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, Connecticut. "Football Was Alright As Long as We Were Winning Everything And Everybody Knew Their Place" Posts: 13,115	I wouldn't call his performance fantastic.

5th February 2012, 18:12	#4189 (permalink)
amolbhatia100 Coach (But never a mod) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 32,939	He was alright today. I thought it wasn't the highest quality match to be honest. Rafael and De Gea stood out for me.

5th February 2012, 18:14	#4190 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 40,882	Save for letting Luiz go for that goal, he was awesome. That long ball in second half to the flank for example was something else.

5th February 2012, 18:44	#4191 (permalink)
charlenefan First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9,007	I thought he was brilliant today, bar far the best midfielder on the pitch

5th February 2012, 19:49	#4193 (permalink)
Vidic_In_Moscow Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,118	Well disciplined and some great tackles and interceptions. I'd say it's almost impossible for Carrick to have a bad game with Giggs and/or Scholes in the same team though, they compliment him so well and make his job 10 x easier, and allow him the space to play his natural game.

5th February 2012, 19:51	#4194 (permalink)
Sw33t First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Raging somewhere. Posts: 10,750	He's been in absolutely cracking form this season. Deffo one of our best players, wouldn't want us to play a team without him in it at the moment.

5th February 2012, 19:54	#4195 (permalink)
Legend16 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,677	SAF challenged him to take centre mid by the scruff of the neck a few months ago. He has done that. brilliant form by him and one of the first names on the team sheet for big games now. great game today

5th February 2012, 19:54	#4196 (permalink)
Fergies Formula Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brighton Posts: 3,462	passing percentage??

5th February 2012, 20:02	#4197 (permalink)
Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 9,099	I might get slated by some for saying this, but I don't think he was as good as some people are saying today. He was solid, but not spectacular. I certainly don't think he was MOTM as some people were suggesting.

5th February 2012, 20:06	#4198 (permalink)
elmo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AKA: Slapanut Goat Smuggla Posts: 3,956	I thought he and Giggs looked average till Scholes came on.

5th February 2012, 21:57	#4200 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 62,724	I didn't watch the game live so was able to judge it without being pissed off about the scoreline. We bossed midfield the whole game. Carrick was the best midfielder on the pitch.