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Old 24th July 2008, 21:13   #17761 (permalink)
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Just when it's obvious United are refusing to sell - you do a complete U-TURN and wish Ronaldo would be sold?

You really are a confused soul.
It's the waiting I tell you - all this damned waiting! Gadzooks man, I've seen grown men reduced to gibbering wrecks; not by the shelling or the guns - just by this damned, interminable intolerable waiting....

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So how about that Ronaldo eh?
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So how about that Ronaldo eh?
Who?
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Old 24th July 2008, 21:20   #17764 (permalink)
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That fella who plays football for whatsthiernames
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Oh 'im..
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Old 24th July 2008, 21:25   #17766 (permalink)
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What a strange U-turn by Hycool especially as things seem to be finally slowing down. I blame it on whoever gave him that tagline!
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Old 24th July 2008, 21:27   #17767 (permalink)
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What a strange U-turn by Hycool especially as things seem to be finally slowing down. I blame it on whoever gave him that tagline!
Like I said, I've seen better men than he crack under the pressure. The poor devil...makes you think - I mean it could happen to any of us.
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Old 24th July 2008, 21:31   #17768 (permalink)
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How long until the season starts again? This transfer saga is boring me. Too much talk about possible players leaving and not enough activity on new arrivals.
We're buying this guy called Ronaldo according to a bloke I met in the pub..
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Old 24th July 2008, 21:44   #17769 (permalink)
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For Real Madrid, Ronaldo is gold dust on and off the pitch as they are even willing to shell £60M plus to get hold him, they are certain they could make back the investment through marketing.

Our wage bill stands at 43% and could break the 50% barrier as Nani, Anderson probably getting three-fold increase a season down the line plus improved contracts for Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Tevez and Fergie might even go shopping for a striker and a top notch goalie soon.

Ronaldo’s wages standing as it is wont damage the wage bill and also he is worth more on and off the pitch in the next four seasons..more than £60M or £70M that Real Madrid can offer.

With him around we might end up with couple of league titles and an European cup in the next four seasons and also his increasing marketing value at the same wage is a bonus.

They’ve tapped him up and he has behaved like an utter prat...There is no second thought but if we bend over to Real Madrid, they might come sniffing around for Tevez, Rooney or Anderson in the future.

Bottom-line: Ronaldo has four more years remaining in his contract and let him stay as long as it lasts and go on a Bosman. He wont risk his career by taking on Fergie and ending up in the reserves.

Fergie and Gill should keep mum and get on with the business of strengthening the team. 23 is a young age for any individual to handle fame and money...who knows three years from now on Ronnie's priorities might change could marry a fat lass that hates beaches and finally settle in Manchester.
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Old 24th July 2008, 23:00   #17770 (permalink)
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It's speculation at the moment but it will be something new for me. I vocally stood by him during the Rooney saga (The Love Ronaldo Thread) but now I can't even see myself liking him in the slightest. I've never experienced this with any team I've followed, cheered on, or whatever, in any sport. I don't see it as making him bigger than the club, simply not enjoying his presence on my favourite team. He will have his work cut out for him in trying to win back a large section of the club's support.
I see the distinction you're making, I think. The difference between enjoying his presence on the team versus enjoying the team in general.

I know what you mean. I don't hate Ronaldo, but I'm indifferent toward him. And that sucks, because I have never felt anything short of affection for a United player before (it's a weird feeling, for sure). Instead of dwelling on Ronaldo (outside of the entertainment that I get from this thread), I'm trying to focus on my excitement to see every other player, to see how the younger guys improve, etc.
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Old 24th July 2008, 23:41   #17771 (permalink)
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For Real Madrid, Ronaldo is gold dust on and off the pitch as they are even willing to shell £60M plus to get hold him, they are certain they could make back the investment through marketing.

Our wage bill stands at 43% and could break the 50% barrier as Nani, Anderson probably getting three-fold increase a season down the line plus improved contracts for Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Tevez and Fergie might even go shopping for a striker and a top notch goalie soon.

Ronaldo’s wages standing as it is wont damage the wage bill and also he is worth more on and off the pitch in the next four seasons..more than £60M or £70M that Real Madrid can offer.

With him around we might end up with couple of league titles and an European cup in the next four seasons and also his increasing marketing value at the same wage is a bonus.

They’ve tapped him up and he has behaved like an utter prat...There is no second thought but if we bend over to Real Madrid, they might come sniffing around for Tevez, Rooney or Anderson in the future.

Bottom-line: Ronaldo has four more years remaining in his contract and let him stay as long as it lasts and go on a Bosman. He wont risk his career by taking on Fergie and ending up in the reserves.

Fergie and Gill should keep mum and get on with the business of strengthening the team. 23 is a young age for any individual to handle fame and money...who knows three years from now on Ronnie's priorities might change could marry a fat lass that hates beaches and finally settle in Manchester.
Completely agree, keeping him for four more years will earn United hundreds of millions, as well as much success on the pitch. Come four years time, I will happily fly Ronaldo to Madrid myself, it would also be fun to see Calderon lying in some gutter then too
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Old 25th July 2008, 00:42   #17772 (permalink)
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Some actual news (kind of) albeit not about the transfer.

Ron appears to have reached the limping with crutches stage, as opposed to the hopping with crutches one. He's even hit the "bit of hobbling about with some kind of aircast" phase.

Those of a sensitive disposition should not click on the link (though those with a medical/physio background might find it of momentary interest):
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1466574.ece
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Old 25th July 2008, 01:22   #17773 (permalink)
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He's like Michael Jackson, but in reverse. Keeps it up maybe Nani can start taking interviews for him
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:10   #17774 (permalink)
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It gets me wondering whether the same thing will happen with Anderson, Nani in the future with Real Madrid. Especially I am sure Anderson and Nani will only become better and better. Dreading that day.
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:14   #17775 (permalink)
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It gets me wondering whether the same thing will happen with Anderson, Nani in the future with Real Madrid. Especially I am sure Anderson and Nani will only become better and better. Dreading that day.
If United don't sell them Ronaldo, they won't have the revenue stream to get them like they got from Becks. Sadly, I think they want Ronaldo more as a stream of revenue than as a player, someone should tell Ronaldo he should get a good chunk of his image rights if he goes to Madrid. I mean if they don't give him at least half of his image rights, Madrid will clearly be treating him as a slave.
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:24   #17776 (permalink)
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If United don't sell them Ronaldo, they won't have the revenue stream to get them like they got from Becks. Sadly, I think they want Ronaldo more as a stream of revenue than as a player, someone should tell Ronaldo he should get a good chunk of his image rights if he goes to Madrid. I mean if they don't give him at least half of his image rights, Madrid will clearly be treating him as a slave.
They still carry a fraction of the Galactico image created in early 2000s by Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo and Beckham but it will run out rather soon. They need someone to fill in the void left by them in terms of marketing and advertising and Ronaldo is exactly the player they need - there's hardly anyone worshiped by kids more than him and he's the best recognized player in the world. No wonder they want him, but it's not the only reason - he's fairly good at football as well.
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:32   #17777 (permalink)
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They still carry a fraction of the Galactico image created in early 2000s by Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo and Beckham but it will run out rather soon. They need someone to fill in the void left by them in terms of marketing and advertising and Ronaldo is exactly the player they need - there's hardly anyone worshiped by kids more than him and he's the best recognized player in the world. No wonder they want him, but it's not the only reason - he's fairly good at football as well.
Agreed but they clearly want him for his Galactico status more than for his dazzling footballing ability. If they get him it's win-win for them, if not shit's gonna hit the fan for Calderon
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Old 25th July 2008, 07:54   #17778 (permalink)
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For Real Madrid, Ronaldo is gold dust on and off the pitch as they are even willing to shell £60M plus to get hold him, they are certain they could make back the investment through marketing.

Our wage bill stands at 43% and could break the 50% barrier as Nani, Anderson probably getting three-fold increase a season down the line plus improved contracts for Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Tevez and Fergie might even go shopping for a striker and a top notch goalie soon.

Ronaldo’s wages standing as it is wont damage the wage bill and also he is worth more on and off the pitch in the next four seasons..more than £60M or £70M that Real Madrid can offer.

With him around we might end up with couple of league titles and an European cup in the next four seasons and also his increasing marketing value at the same wage is a bonus.

They’ve tapped him up and he has behaved like an utter prat...There is no second thought but if we bend over to Real Madrid, they might come sniffing around for Tevez, Rooney or Anderson in the future.

Bottom-line: Ronaldo has four more years remaining in his contract and let him stay as long as it lasts and go on a Bosman. He wont risk his career by taking on Fergie and ending up in the reserves.

Fergie and Gill should keep mum and get on with the business of strengthening the team. 23 is a young age for any individual to handle fame and money...who knows three years from now on Ronnie's priorities might change could marry a fat lass that hates beaches and finally settle in Manchester.
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Old 25th July 2008, 08:00   #17779 (permalink)
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It gets me wondering whether the same thing will happen with Anderson, Nani in the future with Real Madrid. Especially I am sure Anderson and Nani will only become better and better. Dreading that day.
No need cool guy - once we've fucked them off at the high port they ain't gonna come sniffin around our manor again; you get sacked and have all your dreams screwed up that way (will become evident shortly)

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Old 25th July 2008, 08:55   #17780 (permalink)
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Thought for the day.

If Ronaldo (and indeed others like Barry) really want to move so badly, why don't they sacrifice their contract severance and put a transfer request in?
No chance United selling someone with four years left on a dealing and paying up his contract.
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:10   #17781 (permalink)
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It gets me wondering whether the same thing will happen with Anderson, Nani in the future with Real Madrid. Especially I am sure Anderson and Nani will only become better and better. Dreading that day.
That's why we have to stand firm against Real's bullying, because it's bizarre when we stop wanting our players to improve.
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:37   #17782 (permalink)
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In other news, the Matro reported today that Ronaldo is at risk of burning himself in the LA Sun. One specialist remarked that his skin looked dehydrated.

Youve got to love a bit of quality journalism.
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:43   #17783 (permalink)
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Manchester United chief executive David Gill has revealed the Glazer family are fully behind the decision to retain Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo's future has been in doubt since the latter stages of last season following public interest from Primera Division champions Real Madrid.

It has been strongly reported that Real are poised to launch a record-breaking bid for the Portuguese, should he declare his intention to leave Old Trafford.

However, the Red Devils are standing firm amid the speculation, and have on numerous occasions insisted the 23-year-old is not for sale.

And Gill has confirmed that the club are unanimous in their decision to keep Ronaldo after he explained that a brief meeting at the UEFA Champions League final with the owners, the Glazer family, confirmed their desire to retain the two-time PFA Players' Player of the Year.

Full stop

Gill said: "We saw them (the owners) at the Champions League final and the speculation was already present then. It was a short, quick conversation.

"Under the PLC regime, we would not have had to sell him but we would have had to be more public.

"We would have had to consult major shareholders a lot more. Ultimately it would have been a more public situation.

"As it is we have had one phone call, one chat in Moscow and the decision was made. Full stop."

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He added: "You cannot say what will definitely happen in a year's time. But by then he will still have three years left on his contract.

"Let's not worry too much about it. He is at the best club and Alex is very comfortable about it.

"We may give him another contract next summer, you never know. I have not, however, had detailed discussions with his advisors."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...863611,00.html
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:49   #17784 (permalink)
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Real Madrid defender Pepe has hinted that Portuguese compatriot Cristiano Ronaldo has his heart set on a move to the Bernabeu.

Ronaldo has been persistently linked with a record-breaking transfer away from Old Trafford amid Real's public pursuit of the 23-year-old winger.

United are, however, adamant Ronaldo will remain at the club, with manager Sir Alex Ferguson recently holding talks with the forward.

Pepe, though, who joined Real from Porto last summer, believes it is 'normal' that Ronaldo is reportedly keen to join the Primera Division champions.

"It's normal he wants to come. If he comes to Madrid he'll be welcomed by everyone," Pepe said in The Sun.

"The directors, players and fans welcome you here - Cristiano won't have a problem.

"He has said many times that he likes Madrid. He knows the great history of Madrid and the club that it is."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...863701,00.html
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:50   #17785 (permalink)
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In other news Sky Sports report that Pepe has said that Ronaldo has told him he want to join him at Real.........except that if you read the article he quite clearly saysnothing of the sort.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...863701,00.html
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:53   #17786 (permalink)
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In other news Sky Sports report that Pepe has said that Ronaldo has told him he want to join him at Real.........except that i you read the article he quite clearly saysnothing of the sort.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...863701,00.html
Out of all the misleading newspaper titles on this saga, I woudl probably take least offence to that one. I mean, he does want to join Pepe at Real Madrid, doesn't he?
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Old 25th July 2008, 09:59   #17787 (permalink)
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In other news Sky Sports report that Pepe has said that Ronaldo has told him he want to join him at Real.........except that i you read the article he quite clearly saysnothing of the sort.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...863701,00.html


Brilliant

Pepe 'claims'

Pepe 'hints'

Pepe says that he understands why Ronnie might want to play for Madrid,
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Old 25th July 2008, 10:08   #17789 (permalink)
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About time this thread was closed.