ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

born&raisedred · 24th July 2008, 13:35

so lets get this right, tevez said, i play in a great team, people want to play for real and people want to play for united and he hopes everthing turns out ok.

what a complete cunt.....burn the fucker......traitor.

or its just mindless drivel, stating the obvious and should not be taken as anything more than that

Pimpy the Magic Elf · 24th July 2008, 13:45

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Originally Posted by INF-AMOS

I agree the cunt sentiments are ott but it dosent sit good if players like Tevez are spouting in with this kind of stuff, makes you think they will be the next ones saying "I am a slave".

Gullible media twat.

Striker10 · 24th July 2008, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Ekeke

Isnt the first time Tevez has spoken warmly about Spain. Most likely, he doesnt want to face the same thing when eventually he wants to move.

Tevez has said he wants to stay in England 4/5 years and then go back to boca. So it's different as him leaving wouldn't be a suprise. However obviously we hope we can keep him for a little longer then that

fjred · 24th July 2008, 13:53

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Originally Posted by ThatOldRedMagic

Well Calderon has certainly picked up on something which I thought would quickly be identifed on the Caf in the wake of SAF's remarks to the effect that joining Real Madrid would be the worst career move for Ronaldo. As no-one else has made the point, I shall do so. It is simply that once SAF had singled out RM as a club to which a move would represent something entirely negative for Ronnie, it instantly became impossible for United to accept a bid from them, even if one were forthcoming. The simple reason being that to proceed with the sale in such a case would be equivalent to SAF conceding that he didn't actually care about the future welfare of someone whom he had been responsible for for over five years, since he was but a tender youth.

Calderon, I feel, knew the instant he heard Sir Alex's remarks that the game was over.

I cannot recall another instance of a club determined to hang on to a player using this rather clever tactic.

Trust SAF.

If the player moved and failed, it would prove Fergie right, that Madrid are wank. It's, certainly, extra pressure.

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 13:55

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Originally Posted by jojojo

It's sounds real to me. It sounds a lot worse with the UK press spin and than it does in Spanish though. It's no surprise that it's AS who've got it. The reporter has been covering English as well as Spanish football for them for a while - Tevez will have met him before. For people who fancy translating the whole thing it's at:
http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/fu...sdaiftb_43/Tes

Just the (apparent) quotes in that article, in the sequence the article uses them.
"This team has great players, including Cristiano Ronaldo of course. Clearly he is is a very important player for us, but these are personal decisions and he has to take him. "

"I understand Cristiano Ronaldo. Every footballer wants to play at Real Madrid. On the other hand I also think that everyone wants to play for Manchester. If what he seeks is something else, I think that should be respected. "

"I haven't talked to him, but when these things happen, neither side feels good. Now in addition, he's got the injured ankle, and that'll make him feel bad too. I hope that everything will be resolved well. "

what I gather from the article as I have read it is that Tevez believes that if a player requests a transfer it should be granted, which is entirely fair. Ronaldo isn't man enough to come out and say he wants a transfer.

Mainoldo · 24th July 2008, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

what I gather from the article as I have read it is that Tevez believes that if a player requests a transfer it should be granted, which is entirely fair. Ronaldo isn't man enough to come out and say he wants a transfer.

Well he obviously isn't to bothered about leaving enit!!! So whats the fuss...

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Mainoldo

Well he obviously isn't to bothered about leaving enit!!! So whats the fuss...

er, you lost me at 'enit'. no fuss mind. it's all media boredom.

afrocentricity · 24th July 2008, 14:55

This thread is dying btw, do something Bahama... anything?!

jojojo · 24th July 2008, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

what I gather from the article as I have read it is that Tevez believes that if a player requests a transfer it should be granted, which is entirely fair. Ronaldo isn't man enough to come out and say he wants a transfer.

I don't think manliness comes into it. He's spoken to SAF - he's told him what he wants. If it's a transfer, SAF knows.

Meanwhile he's a United employee until United say they've sold his contract.

INF-AMOS · 24th July 2008, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Pimpy the Magic Elf

Gullible media twat.

Such eloquence Pimpy, how did you learn to express yourself with such creativity?

I must admit though that i did forget to include the word IF

As in 'IF Tevez said this or that'.

But then again you also failed to include the word IF

As in 'IF Tevez didnt say this or that'.

Because IF he did say what he is supposed to of said, then who will look the gullible twat.

For wants of a better word!

afrocentricity · 24th July 2008, 15:20

For those that thick 'I stay' would have finished all this... Ronnie has only a bit part in this saga. Someone else would just keep it going, aided by media cretins...

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 15:22

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Originally Posted by jojojo

I don't think manliness comes into it. He's spoken to SAF - he's told him what he wants. If it's a transfer, SAF knows.

Meanwhile he's a United employee until United say they've sold his contract.

If he handed in a transfer request there wouldn't be any speculation.

Telling the press things like "everyone knows what I want" and "the future...who knows?" is not equivalent to handing in a transfer request.

reddev07 · 24th July 2008, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

If he handed in a transfer request there wouldn't be any speculation.

Telling the press things like "everyone knows what I want" and "the future...who knows?" is not equivalent to handing in a transfer request.

No there would be continued speculation because the club would still refuse to sell.

Pogue Mahone · 24th July 2008, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

If he handed in a transfer request there wouldn't be any speculation.

Telling the press things like "everyone knows what I want" and "the future...who knows?" is not equivalent to handing in a transfer request.

This "handing in a transfer request" malarkey is not very well understood by most people. Players almost never "hand in a transfer request" these days.

That would be similar to your or I sacrificing our last 6 months salary, just because we wanted to work one months notice instead of two i.e. complete madness

I can't even remember the last player who did such a thing. Can anyone else?

Striker10 · 24th July 2008, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

If he handed in a transfer request there wouldn't be any speculation.

Telling the press things like "everyone knows what I want" and "the future...who knows?" is not equivalent to handing in a transfer request.

I think that's the point. If you want something you do what you must to get it. The fact Ronaldo hasn't speaks volumes. One of his entourage is wearing a united top in one of the pics!! I don't see a Madrid shirt in site. If Ronaldo had something to say, he'd be wearing a madrid top or one of his people would certainly

I personally think he's happy to stay but yes in the future spain, but maybe certain people want him to move now. People should be glad the threads dying after the recent pictures of Ronaldo

pogue, your basically saying Ronaldo's a mercenary. I'm not so sure. What's loyalty? Ok he's said some silly things but he's been here five years and hardly missed a game

For the monies he'd lose, he'd still make a bundle. Someone like barry doesn't earn as much so obviously it'd hit these types of players harder to request a transfer

Twisted_Woody · 24th July 2008, 16:17

I feel I should post in here once in awhile, this thread is going to be more legendary than the transfer itself (when it happens, whenever that is).

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

This "handing in a transfer request" malarkey is not very well understood by most people. Players almost never "hand in a transfer request" these days.

That would be similar to your or I sacrificing our last 6 months salary, just because we wanted to work one months notice instead of two i.e. complete madness

I can't even remember the last player who did such a thing. Can anyone else?

they don't do it because it means no loyalty bonus. I understand it quite well. What I don't understand is professing to want something and then being passive about achieving it. The similarities between regular folk and millionaire footballers are nil, Pogue.

Ronaldo's behaviour this summer is already having a detrimental effect on my enjoyment of the club and the season has yet to begin. Right now, I don't foresee myself celebrating if he scores for us next season.

Striker10 · 24th July 2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

they don't do it because it means no loyalty bonus. I understand it quite well. What I don't understand is professing to want something and then being passive about achieving it. The similarities between regular folk and millionaire footballers are nil, Pogue.

Ronaldo's behaviour this summer is already having a detrimental effect on my enjoyment of the club and the season has yet to begin. Right now, I don't foresee myself celebrating if he scores for us next season.

treat yourself to some new panties

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Striker10

treat yourself to some new panties

will do. I mean I will try but he isn't doing much to win my support these days.

edmundo · 24th July 2008, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

Ronaldo's behaviour this summer is already having a detrimental effect on my enjoyment of the club and the season has yet to begin. Right now, I don't foresee myself celebrating if he scores for us next season.

The World Cup saga was almost on a par with this year and it proved to be pointless. United won the PL twice and the CL two years later and he became a hero. The cycle will repeat itself i've no doubt. The fans will forgive him once Ronnie performs to the standards he's set over the last few years.

I know he came out with alot of retarded things, some of what he said was misinterpreted,twisted etc. by the media,however he's still a United player and if SAF thinks he's worth the hassle, then so do i. I'd be more pissed if Ronnie was gone this summer, just remember the football and it should bring a smile back to your face, it worked for me.

Pogue Mahone · 24th July 2008, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

they don't do it because it means no loyalty bonus. I understand it quite well. What I don't understand is professing to want something and then being passive about achieving it. The similarities between regular folk and millionaire footballers are nil, Pogue.

Ronaldo's behaviour this summer is already having a detrimental effect on my enjoyment of the club and the season has yet to begin. Right now, I don't foresee myself celebrating if he scores for us next season.

There's being "passive" and there's sacrificing squillions of quid to make a move. I don't think someone is being the former, just because they won't do the latter.

Obviously, it's far-fetched to compare millionaire footballers and us mere mortals but a million quid (or whatever enormous sum of money he would stand to lose) is a millon quid no matter how wealthy you are.

Back to my question though (cause I'm genuinely interested in the answer) can anyone name the last high-profile signing, which was triggered by the player in question putting in a formal transfer request?

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by edmundo

The World Cup saga was almost on a par with this year and it proved to be pointless. United won the PL twice and the CL two years later and he became a hero. The cycle will repeat itself i've no doubt. The fans will forgive him once Ronnie performs to the standards he's set over the last few years.

I know he came out with alot of retarded things, some of what he said was misinterpreted,twisted etc. by the media,however he's still a United player and if SAF thinks he's worth the hassle, then so do i. I'd be more pissed if Ronnie was gone this summer, just remember the football and it should bring a smile back to your face, it worked for me.

if I want to smile I remember your namesake and that monkey...

Partizan · 24th July 2008, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Back to my question though (cause I'm genuinely interested in the answer) can anyone name the last high-profile signing, which was triggered by the player in question putting in a formal transfer request?

January 2006, Man City turn down a written transfer request from..Ta da!! Joey Barton.

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

There's being "passive" and there's sacrificing squillions of quid to make a move. I don't think someone is being the former, just because they won't do the latter.

Obviously, it's far-fetched to compare millionaire footballers and us mere mortals but a million quid (or whatever enormous sum of money he would stand to lose) is a millon quid no matter how wealthy you are.

Back to my question though (cause I'm genuinely interested in the answer) can anyone name the last high-profile signing, which was triggered by the player in question putting in a formal transfer request?

Rooney, Everton, 2004?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/evert...0252-14578511/

Pogue Mahone · 24th July 2008, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

Rooney, Everton, 2004?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/evert...0252-14578511/

Bless him. I'd forgotten about that.

Not really comparing like with like though. Rooney will have been on buttons at Everton, would probably have lost more money by delaying joining United than he would have by putting in a transfer request to leave Everton.

Dr. Dwayne · 24th July 2008, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Bless him. I'd forgotten about that.

Not really comparing like with like though. Rooney will have been on buttons at Everton, would probably have lost more money by delaying joining United than he would have by putting in a transfer request to leave Everton.

Indeed.

Shevchenko? Though I'm sure his mate Roman softened the blow.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...369154&cc=5901

edmundo · 24th July 2008, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dwayne

if I want to smile I remember your namesake and that monkey...

What the fuck?????

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