Anderson

Alex · 8th November 2009, 21:40

This kid has a future, he is one of them yung and learning types. He does disappoint at times but usually is being played out of position at the time so give him a chance. His inclusion alone merits a 4-3-3, which I think suits Fletch as well, who atm is this best middie at the club. That said Anderson got forward when needed and should have been played in by Rooney at one point which even Anderson would have probably slotted home. He was also great at the back. He and Fletch should start every meaningful match imo

Feed Me · 8th November 2009, 21:42

He played really well today. Got into some promising attacking positions but was let down by shit service to him.

With him and Fletcher in midfield, there can be no doubts over our physicality and aggression.

Raees · 8th November 2009, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Alex

This kid has a future, he is one of them yung and learning types. He does disappoint at times but usually is being played out of position at the time so give him a chance. His inclusion alone merits a 4-3-3, which I think suits Fletch as well, who atm is this best middie at the club. That said Anderson got forward when needed and should have been played in by Rooney at one point which even Anderson would have probably slotted home. He was also great at the back. He and Fletch should start every meaningful match imo

Carrick or Hargreaves must start with them, against the better teams.. especially away from home.

032Devil · 8th November 2009, 21:43

He has a future but he's not measured up to the likes of Scholes who he was ear-marked to replace.

Still needs to show greater commitment. I thought he was disappointing today.

Feed Me · 8th November 2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by 032Devil

He has a future but he's not measured up to the likes of Scholes who he was ear-marked to replace.

Still needs to show greater commitment. I thought he was disappointing today.

EdWeatherall · 8th November 2009, 21:46

He needs to add goals to his play to really take the next step, he's a decent enough ball-winner, he has the pace and energy to get forward and also to be a nuisance defensively, he's always looking to play that killer pass if he has a chance, and that I like

His long passing seems to have really come on this season

Hes got to carry on getting forward and needs to get into more good positions and start scoring the goals that the licence he is given to go forward requires

Alex · 8th November 2009, 21:46

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Originally Posted by 032Devil

He has a future but he's not measured up to the likes of Scholes who he was ear-marked to replace.

Still needs to show greater commitment. I thought he was disappointing today.

So basically he wasnt Xavi???

032Devil · 8th November 2009, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Feed Me

He played really well today. Got into some promising attacking positions but was let down by shit service to him.

With him and Fletcher in midfield, there can be no doubts over our physicality and aggression.

(intelligent)

Maroon Lucifer · 8th November 2009, 21:49

You just reminded me of how free he was when Rooney had the ball on the left flank and failed to play him. ARGH!!! But yes, he seemed to get into a few advanced positions, but he didn't get the ball when he should have

032Devil · 8th November 2009, 21:50

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Originally Posted by Alex

So basically he wasnt Xavi???

I thought he could have played better. He wasn't chasing at times even though the play was close to him and I thought he looked disgruntled.

Alex · 8th November 2009, 21:55

The only time he looked disgruntled was when he was taken off

032Devil · 8th November 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Alex

The only time he looked disgruntled was when he was taken off

Well before then.

I don't think he was comfortable with the advance position he was asked to take.

MST3K · 8th November 2009, 22:37

wasnt as good as fletcher or carrick but did play well. Unlucky to come off but going to a 4-4-2 we needed fletch and carricks defensive abilities against the diamond.

amolbhatia100 · 8th November 2009, 22:41

he was superb.

Allforone · 8th November 2009, 22:47

Meh Gibsons better dont you know...not to mention the master 'ball hassler' lucas.

Kraftwerker · 8th November 2009, 22:51

Gem of a player. Just a bit rough round the edges. Not today though - he was brilliant.

datura · 8th November 2009, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Allforone

Meh Gibsons better dont you know...not to mention the master 'ball hassler' lucas.

Gibson was showing a lot more at the time of the thread, Anderson looked unfit and uninterested, however after dropping to the reserves against Wigan and scoring he's come back to the first team and played very well in most of his appearances.

I thought he was good today, passing was crisp, accurate and creative, he got stuck in and had a great battle with Essien and wasn't intimidated physically. He made some good off the ball runs 2nd half and was a bit unfortunate that he wasn't played in.

KingEric7 · 8th November 2009, 22:55

He doesn't need to improve on that sort of performance to be considered a world class player, he just needs to put it in more often. It's not often you see Essien lose the physical battle during a game, nevermind to the extent that he did against Anderson today. He has absolutely everything - it's frightening how good he can be.

Pogue Mahone · 8th November 2009, 23:10

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Originally Posted by datura

Gibson was showing a lot more at the time of the thread, Anderson looked unfit and uninterested, however after dropping to the reserves against Wigan and scoring he's come back to the first team and played very well in most of his appearances.

I thought he was good today, passing was crisp, accurate and creative, he got stuck in and had a great battle with Essien and wasn't intimidated physically. He made some good off the ball runs 2nd half and was a bit unfortunate that he wasn't played in.

Anyone else think doing the same thing could bring about a similar improvement in Nani? I can't understand why this hasn't been tried yet.

Raven_Blade · 8th November 2009, 23:15

He played a good game and seems comfortable in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation.

Him, Fletcher and Carrick owned the midfield against Chelsea. His movement and positioning was excellent at times and he was unlucky not to get service from his team mates. He kept possession well and tried some incisive through balls to Rooney. He needs to keep improving and become more dominant in a 4-4-2, and then there's that lack of a consistent goal threat to address.

Scholesgoals · 8th November 2009, 23:16

Andersons bum.

Raoul · 9th November 2009, 03:16

He was fantastic.

Brwned · 9th November 2009, 04:07

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Anyone else think doing the same thing could bring about a similar improvement in Nani? I can't understand why this hasn't been tried yet.

Might not have the right attitude/mentality for it, he might respond better to an arm around the shoulder.

Might be reading into it a bit much but Anderson does seem to be a fighter, Nani seems a bit more fragile.

KingEric7 · 9th November 2009, 04:13

Absolutely, Anderson asked to play for the reserves. There's nothing to say that Nani will respond anywhere near as well to being dropped down to the reserves.

amir51 · 9th November 2009, 04:18

He was great today but on a few occasions when he could have shot it, he didn't and then kept the ball and would soon get crowded out. I am hoping he gains more confidence to shot and starts to wire them.

Smash-E · 9th November 2009, 04:23

great performance by him, but I still laugh every time he attempts to shoot

Eto'odinho · 9th November 2009, 04:41

He was played further up the field in the first half and consequently found it a bit tough to get involved. Once he started dropping deep a bit, that's when things started happening for him. He is playing better this season and certainly deserves more games

Scholesgoals · 9th November 2009, 11:03

I think Anderson has shown a tangible maturity from the go this year.

He's learning how to play that vital role in the middle of the park, his ability to nip around the center circle is actually very good, hes a strong little bugger too, especially when he gets his backside in the way. Hes blessed with a carthorse of a backside.

RedSky At Night · 9th November 2009, 11:15

Its pretty clear that he's been asked to play higher up the pitch this season and thats a position he seems to enjoy a bit more. I love his attitude, always fighting, always wanting to win.

If only he could grab another goal or two then he could be an important player for us.

Grande · 9th November 2009, 11:46

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Originally Posted by 032Devil

I thought he could have played better. He wasn't chasing at times even though the play was close to him and I thought he looked disgruntled.

What may fool you about Anderson, is that he doesn't harry the opponent like Fletcher and Hargreaves does, instead he uses positioning to cut of the opponents options and doesn't go in before he knows he'll get the ball or the opponent. Carrick is a master of it, and Anderson is also very good. They don't sell themselves, and more importantly, they deny room for the other opponents to get into. Hargo and Tevez may look impressive flailing about at full speed in opponents throats, chasing one then the other, but the result is often a one-two or a pass into the space that opens up between them and the other players.

Yesterday, United contained one of the worlds three best teams atm on their turf almost perfectly, the main reason being how Carrick, Anderson and Fletcher quashed every dangerous inch in the middle of the pitch, forcing Chelsea to continuously start again at the back or try a happy-go-lucky-pass at a player with a United-defender on top of him.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 9th November 2009, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Anyone else think doing the same thing could bring about a similar improvement in Nani? I can't understand why this hasn't been tried yet.

It beats me too.

Doevle · 9th November 2009, 12:57

I think he still lacks the positional awareness and off the ball movement to be consistently good in a two man midfield, but with two centre mids next to him he is really something. Brilliant match by him last night.

marcus agrippa · 9th November 2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Doevle

I think he still lacks the positional awareness and off the ball movement to be consistently good in a two man midfield, but with two centre mids next to him he is really something. Brilliant match by him last night.

no problem with his movement yesterday. he got into some bloody good positions in the Chelsea box several times after lung-busting runs. wasn't picked out, though, or only received a poor pass (Giggsy!!!)

Anderson Searl · 9th November 2009, 19:10

Considering he got himself into 2 goal scoring positions, I better not hear anyone bitch about his lack of attacking prowress

MadDogg · 9th November 2009, 19:52

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Originally Posted by marcus agrippa

no problem with his movement yesterday. he got into some bloody good positions in the Chelsea box several times after lung-busting runs. wasn't picked out, though, or only received a poor pass (Giggsy!!!)

He was quite poor with his movement in the first half (barring the time Rooney should have fed him in obviously). When we had the ball he was wandering around somewhat aimlessly quite a lot.

Was much better in the second though, you could tell he actually wanted to get on the ball.

Boss · 9th November 2009, 20:02

Getting yourself into the box does not really mean you have great off the ball movement. Anderson's movement or lack of at times still leaves alot to be desired, it's the attribute I want him to improve the most, it can really make him great and a constant thorn for the opposition but it's not easy.

Raees · 9th November 2009, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

Getting yourself into the box does not really mean you have great off the ball movement. Anderson's movement or lack of at times still leaves alot to be desired, it's the attribute I want him to improve the most, it can really make him great and a constant thorn for the opposition but it's not easy.

The big thing holding him back is his poor shooting, it's linked to his reluctance to make off the ball runs in the final third as he is not confident about making the runs as he knows that when he actually gets there he will mess up. It's all interlinked.

In midfield areas, his movement is very good.. always available to recieve a pass and likes to pass and move.

Clique · 9th November 2009, 20:10

I thought he was generally available for the return pass last night. From what i saw, i didn't actually see him standing around/ roaming about aimlessly after passing the ball.

His off the ball movement has improved. I think he's well on his way to becoming a very very good midfielder for us.

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8th November 2009, 21:42	#2 (permalink)
Feed Me Bobby Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Berbatov has Cantona’s knack of being the man amid a stampede towards the door who stops to notice a side exit that nobody else has seen. Posts: 12,937	He played really well today. Got into some promising attacking positions but was let down by shit service to him. With him and Fletcher in midfield, there can be no doubts over our physicality and aggression.

8th November 2009, 21:43	#4 (permalink)
032Devil First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 17,152	He has a future but he's not measured up to the likes of Scholes who he was ear-marked to replace. Still needs to show greater commitment. I thought he was disappointing today.

8th November 2009, 21:46	#6 (permalink)
EdWeatherall Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,753	He needs to add goals to his play to really take the next step, he's a decent enough ball-winner, he has the pace and energy to get forward and also to be a nuisance defensively, he's always looking to play that killer pass if he has a chance, and that I like His long passing seems to have really come on this season Hes got to carry on getting forward and needs to get into more good positions and start scoring the goals that the licence he is given to go forward requires

8th November 2009, 21:49	#9 (permalink)
Maroon Lucifer Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Klaksvík, Faroe Islands Posts: 3,176	You just reminded me of how free he was when Rooney had the ball on the left flank and failed to play him. ARGH!!! But yes, he seemed to get into a few advanced positions, but he didn't get the ball when he should have

8th November 2009, 21:55	#11 (permalink)
Alex Spam Alert! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dances With Smurfs Posts: 34,879	The only time he looked disgruntled was when he was taken off

8th November 2009, 22:37	#13 (permalink)
MST3K Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "Increase the Flash Gordon noise and put more science stuff around" Posts: 1,600	wasnt as good as fletcher or carrick but did play well. Unlucky to come off but going to a 4-4-2 we needed fletch and carricks defensive abilities against the diamond.

8th November 2009, 22:41	#14 (permalink)
amolbhatia100 Has excellent taste in women Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 13,519	he was superb.

8th November 2009, 22:47	#15 (permalink)
Allforone Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The future is Anderson! Long live the king of the Manchester United midfield. Posts: 4,853	Meh Gibsons better dont you know...not to mention the master 'ball hassler' lucas.

8th November 2009, 22:51	#16 (permalink)
Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here, this is bat country Posts: 3,892	Gem of a player. Just a bit rough round the edges. Not today though - he was brilliant.

8th November 2009, 22:55	#18 (permalink)
KingEric7 Winner of the Tabata bet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Patrice Evra is that which no greater can be conceived. Posts: 16,003	He doesn't need to improve on that sort of performance to be considered a world class player, he just needs to put it in more often. It's not often you see Essien lose the physical battle during a game, nevermind to the extent that he did against Anderson today. He has absolutely everything - it's frightening how good he can be.

8th November 2009, 23:15	#20 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: You cant reason with stupidity. Posts: 25,439	He played a good game and seems comfortable in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation. Him, Fletcher and Carrick owned the midfield against Chelsea. His movement and positioning was excellent at times and he was unlucky not to get service from his team mates. He kept possession well and tried some incisive through balls to Rooney. He needs to keep improving and become more dominant in a 4-4-2, and then there's that lack of a consistent goal threat to address.

8th November 2009, 23:16	#21 (permalink)
Scholesgoals First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ogmalocopia Posts: 5,771	Andersons bum.

9th November 2009, 03:16	#22 (permalink)
Raoul Administrator Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 29,947	He was fantastic.

9th November 2009, 04:13	#24 (permalink)
KingEric7 Winner of the Tabata bet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Patrice Evra is that which no greater can be conceived. Posts: 16,003	Absolutely, Anderson asked to play for the reserves. There's nothing to say that Nani will respond anywhere near as well to being dropped down to the reserves.

9th November 2009, 04:18	#25 (permalink)
amir51 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,600	He was great today but on a few occasions when he could have shot it, he didn't and then kept the ball and would soon get crowded out. I am hoping he gains more confidence to shot and starts to wire them.

9th November 2009, 04:23	#26 (permalink)
Smash-E Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Adelaide Posts: 2,616	great performance by him, but I still laugh every time he attempts to shoot

9th November 2009, 04:41	#27 (permalink)
Eto'odinho Retard magnet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tortuga--Stairway to Retardville Posts: 10,025	He was played further up the field in the first half and consequently found it a bit tough to get involved. Once he started dropping deep a bit, that's when things started happening for him. He is playing better this season and certainly deserves more games

9th November 2009, 11:03	#28 (permalink)
Scholesgoals First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ogmalocopia Posts: 5,771	I think Anderson has shown a tangible maturity from the go this year. He's learning how to play that vital role in the middle of the park, his ability to nip around the center circle is actually very good, hes a strong little bugger too, especially when he gets his backside in the way. Hes blessed with a carthorse of a backside.

9th November 2009, 11:15	#29 (permalink)
RedSky At Night RTA waiting to happen Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,473	Its pretty clear that he's been asked to play higher up the pitch this season and thats a position he seems to enjoy a bit more. I love his attitude, always fighting, always wanting to win. If only he could grab another goal or two then he could be an important player for us.

9th November 2009, 12:57	#32 (permalink)
Doevle First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Neverending Story Posts: 5,317	I think he still lacks the positional awareness and off the ball movement to be consistently good in a two man midfield, but with two centre mids next to him he is really something. Brilliant match by him last night.

9th November 2009, 19:10	#34 (permalink)
Anderson Searl Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: :lol: Posts: 15,684	Considering he got himself into 2 goal scoring positions, I better not hear anyone bitch about his lack of attacking prowress

9th November 2009, 20:02	#36 (permalink)
Boss First Team Sub Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: It's always polemic Posts: 6,697	Getting yourself into the box does not really mean you have great off the ball movement. Anderson's movement or lack of at times still leaves alot to be desired, it's the attribute I want him to improve the most, it can really make him great and a constant thorn for the opposition but it's not easy.

9th November 2009, 20:10	#38 (permalink)
Clique Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mermania Rulez!!!...Merms come back!!! Posts: 4,578	I thought he was generally available for the return pass last night. From what i saw, i didn't actually see him standing around/ roaming about aimlessly after passing the ball. His off the ball movement has improved. I think he's well on his way to becoming a very very good midfielder for us.