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First Team Regular
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 23,416
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I wouldnt anyway. Doesnt in any way mean Silva isnt fantastic.. but we dont play with a #10.. we play with 2 wingers and 2 strikers in most of our games.. One of those strikers loves dropping deep..
Again.. Silva is brilliant, just that he wont be played in his best position at United in our system. Val is vital to the way we play. |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Scotland
Posts: 9,104
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What's also interesting though is that both players have only started 14 games in the league this season, when we've played around double of that now. Both men have been good, but without injuries and a consistent place in the team, they'd have probably been even better. |
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Worst scout ever
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Kids are the Future
Posts: 17,033
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I thought Fergie might have gotten the wrong Wigan player after Palacios looked so good for Spurs at first.
I was wrong. He was a rough stone when he came here but now he's a diamond. |
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Mêlée Island
Posts: 15,933
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Far better than Nani? No he's not.
We're very lucky I think, when one seems to go off the boil the other seems to power into top gear. At some point both of them will hit top form at the same time and that's a frightening prospect for any defence. |
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Poster of the year 2008
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair"
Posts: 62,724
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Based on this season alone, I'd say Valencia and Bale have been more or less on a par, with Nani not as impressive. Very difficult to draw conclusions beyond that. Bale is the youngest so has the most potential and Nani the most skillful on the ball. Valencia, however, has had to cope with a horrific injury and being asked to play a chunk of the season as a defender. I certainly don't think anyone can make any strong claims for any of the three of them to be out on their own as a better winger than the rest. |
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Having said that, Valencia does the basic stuff so well and with such consistency that his effectiveness in a team is as much, if not more than, the likes of Bale and Nani. |
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He's shit, move on.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: In with the Leeds scum
Posts: 3,753
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Valencia has flair. Just because he doesnt so step overs and spins on his cock doesn't mean he doesn't have flair.
it takes a lot of skill to beat a man and get the ball into the danger zone and nobody does it better than Valencia |
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Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The GTA
Posts: 4,125
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Nani has all the tools to be the third best player in the world.
Valencia is just a fuckin beast and has been solid since October 2009. Valencia can also keep things simple, play RB and put in a hell of a defensive shift. I would like to know his training/workout regiment. |
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For me flair, is about step overs, outrageous volleys, Goals out of nothing, etc.. something you see Bale and Nani do. Dont remember Valencia ever doing it. |
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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wayne rooney wonderland
Posts: 3,982
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World Class is a big thing, I dunno, are there any better out and out wingers in world football right now?
Unplayable on his day. He had this kind of form at the end of last season but then he was shocking in the champions league final. |
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Conspiracy enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Patrice Evra is that which no greater can be conceived.
Posts: 21,809
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I don't even care. It's almost reductive of Valencia to describe him just in terms of footballing ability. He's a fantastic professional, an absolutely top-notch winger (and player) and, above all, he seems a fantastic person.
Football would be much, much better for having more Antonio Valencias. I remember Steve Bruce's interview on him just after he signed for us - he was going on and on about him, dishing out all sorts of praise regarding his ability but, in particular, his character. It seemed fairly overboard at the time, but he seems vindicated now in lavishing such praise upon him. The agent situation just tops it all off. He's taken it up a notch this year and, if it had to be argued, I do think he's one of the best in the world in his position, if not just for the sheer all-round contribution he offers. That's good enough for me but, at the risk of sounding cliche, I'm just glad we've got him. He's a thoroughly respectable footballer. |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair"
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