Antonio Valencia-You sexy beast!

Sean_RedDevil · 2nd February 2012, 01:20

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Originally Posted by Solius

Valencia: "I do not want to move from ManUtd. I'm very happy & so I separated from Diego Herrera (agent) as there is not much work to do."

Class.

That's the spirit

We're so lucky that we're having Valencia back in perfect conditions after this injury two 18 months ago, for someone like Smith was this injury a way in the other direction.

Ringo 07 · 2nd February 2012, 01:41

He is an exact clone of Road Runner. Valencia will hopefully be up there with the very best Utd legends at the end of his career. Typical it was someone from Glasgow Rangers that nearly wrecked his career but so amazing to see him back as strong as ever.

Sally Cinnamon · 2nd February 2012, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Ringo 07

He is an exact clone of Road Runner. Valencia will hopefully be up there with the very best Utd legends at the end of his career. Typical it was someone from Glasgow Rangers that nearly wrecked his career but so amazing to see him back as strong as ever.

Those Glasgow Rangers players, always ending player's careers in totally innocuous incidents.

Ringo 07 · 2nd February 2012, 01:48

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Originally Posted by Sally Cinnamon

Those Glasgow Rangers players, always ending player's careers in totally innocuous incidents.

Well I went overboard a bit there but Feckin Scottish football is more about kicking lumps out of each other than playing football so the risk is always there when you get drawn against a team from there!

gooDevil · 2nd February 2012, 02:08

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Wowsers. I feel pretty comfortable saying that I'll bet he can kick a football better with his left than you can your right. He's just more comfortable on his right and so favours it.

The levels aren't even remotely comparable.

I wasn't trying to make some comment on how great I kick a ball.

I think he looks uncomfortable using his left, to the point where he uses his right at times where it would be much easier to use his left but he doesn't.

Of course many players have been great without two feet, it was just a suggestion.

Talking Vulture · 2nd February 2012, 09:49

Ringo, his injury v Rangers was an accident. It had nothing to do with the Jocks kicking lumps out of folk.

Jacob · 2nd February 2012, 10:34

With all wingers fit and on form, I'd still pick Valencia first. Will be interesting to see how Fergie handles the situation when Young is back, Valencia is simply to good to rotate atm.

Plechazunga · 2nd February 2012, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Ringo 07

Valencia will hopefully be up there with the very best Utd legends at the end of his career.

No he won't. The very best United legends are players like George Best and Duncan Edwards.

I love Valencia, but he's nowhere near that level of ability and never will be. Also, he's 27 this summer, and when his pace goes he's fecked.

Red Dreams · 2nd February 2012, 16:13

thought his last injury was on international duty.

he did take a long time to come back from that.

and him playing right back did not help.

he is back to his best now.

Cheesy · 2nd February 2012, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Jacob

With all wingers fit and on form, I'd still pick Valencia first. Will be interesting to see how Fergie handles the situation when Young is back, Valencia is simply to good to rotate atm.

I'd have to agree with you there. Young was a big money signing, and I think that Fergie would have had him in his first team plans, but I just can't see a starting place for him right now.

Liam147 · 2nd February 2012, 17:55

He wasn't getting in before his injury (not regularly anyway), there's no reason for him to get in above Valencia. If Nani's fit, I imagine he'd start, if not, then Young. One thing's for sure, and that's for the foreseeable future, Valencia is the current indispensable winger.

Maciek · 5th February 2012, 18:26

Not a good game from him, especially that we had huge expectations after his recent form. We've got to give some credit to Bosingwa, did really well against Valencia.

But...

It's great he's also such a good right-back. It helps a lot when we need to score, when we need to take off a defender to bring on a striker or another midfielder. He defends really well, but when we attack, he's waiting there on the wing, ready for the ball to cross.

Well done, Tony.

Plechazunga · 5th February 2012, 18:33

It was funny though cos he never really had a go against Bosingwa. If he'd tried to take him on and got beaten a couple of times, I could understand him losing confidence. But he just didn't seem to fancy it today.

Of course we can't expect him to be amazing every game, it's just surprising given the form he's been in and Cole being out.

Kelvin · 5th February 2012, 19:19

didn't play well today, but one moment of great run and delivery in the box he come up with the goods to set up our 3rd goal.

Ole's_toe_poke · 5th February 2012, 19:22

Chelsea did well to close him down. And more importantly stop him getting one on one with Bosingwa. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition.

Putting him at RB was a good move. Finally gave him some space to run at. And ultimately was involved in the 3rd goal.

mu77 · 5th February 2012, 19:24

when park pushed that pass past essien i didn't think tony would get there but fuck me he's dead fit isn't he.

Varun_Utd · 5th February 2012, 19:24

His unwillingness to have a go at bosingwa on the outside was surprising. Did well for the cross though once he had space having moved back to RB.

amolbhatia100 · 5th February 2012, 19:28

Strange that Bosingwa replacing Cole worked out against us as I think the former did a much better job that the latter does in dealing with Valencia's style of play.

emaveric · 6th February 2012, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Varun_Utd

His unwillingness to have a go at bosingwa on the outside was surprising. Did well for the cross though once he had space having moved back to RB.

Bosingwa was always about a yard out to his right hence limiting Toni.
Can SAF & the coaching team work on his left foot, i wonder.

Cina · 6th February 2012, 09:28

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Originally Posted by emaveric

Can SAF & the coaching team work on his left foot, i wonder.

Very hard to at his age so it's unlikely. It's insane how one footed he is given the standard he plays at. You just wonder how good he'd be if he actually had a left foot. I mean yesterday he had a perfect opportunity to shoot with his left foot and he actually moved a yard over it to get it on his right foot instead.

Bosingwa had him figured out yesterday, surprisingly.

kouroux · 6th February 2012, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Varun_Utd

His unwillingness to have a go at bosingwa on the outside was surprising. Did well for the cross though once he had space having moved back to RB.

I think it was also unusual for him to face a right footed left back.Kinda like changing your routine and adapting to a new situation whereas Valencia is the type of player who seems to have his routines and keeps using them

Annihilate Now! · 6th February 2012, 09:58

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Originally Posted by Cina

Very hard to at his age so it's unlikely. It's insane how one footed he is given the standard he plays at. You just wonder how good he'd be if he actually had a left foot. I mean yesterday he had a perfect opportunity to shoot with his left foot and he actually moved a yard over it to get it on his right foot instead.

Bosingwa had him figured out yesterday, surprisingly.

Yeah, he basically stayed 2 yards away from him at all time and never comitted to a tackle. Meant Valencia kept turning back and forth and couldn't get the space he wanted for a cross or to move inside.

Though I imagine a coach told Boswinga to do this as opposed to him working it out for himself.

Varun_Utd · 6th February 2012, 10:02

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Originally Posted by emaveric

Bosingwa was always about a yard out to his right hence limiting Toni.
Can SAF & the coaching team work on his left foot, i wonder.

Yeah, noticed that. Unlikely to improve much on his left foot at this stage of his career i reckon. that said, he is working on his game and its evident he's comfortable coming infield now.

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Originally Posted by kouroux

I think it was also unusual for him to face a right footed left back.Kinda like changing your routine and adapting to a new situation whereas Valencia is the type of player who seems to have his routines and keeps using them

Yeah, it was surprising though, really expected him to get the better of bosingwa. He does have his set routines but still manages to perform because of the sheer directness and pace of his game. showing him on the inside all game is something i expect most full backs to do more often though which is why he needs to add more to his game

Cheesy · 6th February 2012, 17:56

I think that one of his main problems yesterday while on the wing was that he wasn't really getting a lot of the ball. He only got it on a few occasions, and actually caused some damaged when he did have it, such as that fantastic pass through to Rooney.

surf · 6th February 2012, 22:17

In terms of strength, speed, power and stamina, he's the best player in the side, almost as good as Ronaldo was. His run from deep for the equalizer, followed by a good cross, was impressive at that stage of the match. He gives the impression he can run up and down the right side all day. He's an interesting right back because he gets more space to run at the opposition defence.

evra · 6th February 2012, 22:19

His ball over the top to Rooney in the first half deserved a goal, Rooney really wasted the chance he created.

marjen · 6th February 2012, 23:26

I love his passes over the top. Gives him a new dimension, and he's doing it regularly.

Never knew he had that kind of pass in his reportoire.

Edmeiste · 7th February 2012, 02:40

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Originally Posted by marjen

I love his passes over the top. Gives him a new dimension, and he's doing it regularly.

Never knew he had that kind of pass in his reportoire.

The beauty of bringing a player to United and watching them gradually develop

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2nd February 2012, 01:41	#402 (permalink)
Ringo 07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: "Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better," Steven Gerrard on Joe Cole Posts: 3,107	He is an exact clone of Road Runner. Valencia will hopefully be up there with the very best Utd legends at the end of his career. Typical it was someone from Glasgow Rangers that nearly wrecked his career but so amazing to see him back as strong as ever.

2nd February 2012, 09:49	#406 (permalink)
Talking Vulture Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,469	Ringo, his injury v Rangers was an accident. It had nothing to do with the Jocks kicking lumps out of folk.

2nd February 2012, 10:34	#407 (permalink)
Jacob First Team Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Valencia fanboi Posts: 17,649	With all wingers fit and on form, I'd still pick Valencia first. Will be interesting to see how Fergie handles the situation when Young is back, Valencia is simply to good to rotate atm.

2nd February 2012, 16:13	#409 (permalink)
Red Dreams First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thunder Road to Old Trafford Posts: 23,454	thought his last injury was on international duty. he did take a long time to come back from that. and him playing right back did not help. he is back to his best now.

2nd February 2012, 17:55	#411 (permalink)
Liam147 Yoko Ono Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: "It aint the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." Posts: 8,784	He wasn't getting in before his injury (not regularly anyway), there's no reason for him to get in above Valencia. If Nani's fit, I imagine he'd start, if not, then Young. One thing's for sure, and that's for the foreseeable future, Valencia is the current indispensable winger.

5th February 2012, 18:26	#412 (permalink)
Maciek Spit and Polish Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 'Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field. It's a fact, right? And it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow and not as good as your own cow.' Posts: 9,135	Not a good game from him, especially that we had huge expectations after his recent form. We've got to give some credit to Bosingwa, did really well against Valencia. But... It's great he's also such a good right-back. It helps a lot when we need to score, when we need to take off a defender to bring on a striker or another midfielder. He defends really well, but when we attack, he's waiting there on the wing, ready for the ball to cross. Well done, Tony.

5th February 2012, 18:33	#413 (permalink)
Plechazunga Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header Posts: 47,728	It was funny though cos he never really had a go against Bosingwa. If he'd tried to take him on and got beaten a couple of times, I could understand him losing confidence. But he just didn't seem to fancy it today. Of course we can't expect him to be amazing every game, it's just surprising given the form he's been in and Cole being out.

5th February 2012, 19:19	#414 (permalink)
Kelvin Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,510	didn't play well today, but one moment of great run and delivery in the box he come up with the goods to set up our 3rd goal.

5th February 2012, 19:22	#415 (permalink)
Ole's_toe_poke First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18,932	Chelsea did well to close him down. And more importantly stop him getting one on one with Bosingwa. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition. Putting him at RB was a good move. Finally gave him some space to run at. And ultimately was involved in the 3rd goal.

5th February 2012, 19:24	#416 (permalink)
mu77 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,737	when park pushed that pass past essien i didn't think tony would get there but fuck me he's dead fit isn't he.

5th February 2012, 19:24	#417 (permalink)
Varun_Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Villa Posts: 5,145	His unwillingness to have a go at bosingwa on the outside was surprising. Did well for the cross though once he had space having moved back to RB.

5th February 2012, 19:28	#418 (permalink)
amolbhatia100 Has excellent taste in women Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: india Posts: 27,701	Strange that Bosingwa replacing Cole worked out against us as I think the former did a much better job that the latter does in dealing with Valencia's style of play.

6th February 2012, 17:56	#424 (permalink)
Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,314	I think that one of his main problems yesterday while on the wing was that he wasn't really getting a lot of the ball. He only got it on a few occasions, and actually caused some damaged when he did have it, such as that fantastic pass through to Rooney.

6th February 2012, 22:17	#425 (permalink)
surf Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: In the wilderness Posts: 3,913	In terms of strength, speed, power and stamina, he's the best player in the side, almost as good as Ronaldo was. His run from deep for the equalizer, followed by a good cross, was impressive at that stage of the match. He gives the impression he can run up and down the right side all day. He's an interesting right back because he gets more space to run at the opposition defence.

6th February 2012, 22:19	#426 (permalink)
evra First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right. Posts: 8,037	His ball over the top to Rooney in the first half deserved a goal, Rooney really wasted the chance he created.

6th February 2012, 23:26	#427 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	I love his passes over the top. Gives him a new dimension, and he's doing it regularly. Never knew he had that kind of pass in his reportoire.