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Old 6th January 2010, 23:21   #1 (permalink)
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Are Arsenal a bigger threat to Chelsea than we are?

Alex seems to think so.

Alex: Arsenal are a bigger threat than United

It's not an altogether stupid opinion either. They'll go ahead of us if they win their game in hand and they've still got van Persie to come back yet.

They'll probably struggle if Fabregas doesn't get back soon, but we'd be equally affected without Rooney.

I think a lot of people underestimated Arsenal this year and they have as good a chance as anyone to win the league.
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I still think Man U are the biggest threat to Arsenal winning the league.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:24   #3 (permalink)
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I still think Man U are the biggest threat to Arsenal winning the league.
Does that mean you rate yourselves and United above Chelsea?
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:25   #4 (permalink)
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Mind games....personally i think Chelsea should worry about finishing in the top 2 let alone worrying about who they deem their biggest threat is....theyve looked anything but convincing for a fair while now.
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I said it a year ago

I hate to say I told you so but...
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:25   #6 (permalink)
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Don't we always have this discussion at Christmas?

It's always too early to tell with Arsenal. Two years ago they were storming for the title until their squad got found out after Christmas. Same last year, wasn't it?
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:26   #7 (permalink)
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The question should be are Arsenal a greater threat to us than Chelsea.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:27   #8 (permalink)
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Does that mean you rate yourselves and United above Chelsea?
Yep, see my pre-season predictions, mind you I had Liverpool ahead of Chelsea too.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:28   #9 (permalink)
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Yep, see my pre-season predictions, mind you I had Liverpool ahead of Chelsea too.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:29   #10 (permalink)
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Of course not.

It's unbelievable just how much people seem to want to underrate this team.

They may have a game in hand, but we have the little fact of having won the past 3 league titles behind us. Chelsea would be stupid to ignore us as their biggest threat.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:31   #11 (permalink)
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At this point in time, right as of now, Arsenal appear to be playing better and if some oddball scientist concocted a graph of the current trend then Arsenal would possibly finish above us but I am confident United will pull their recent poor results around and come back strongly.
Subjectively, we have also had a 5-0 win over Wigan inbetween recent poor results and also you could say being out of the FA Cup could be one less distraction and we could now concentrate on the league and Europe.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:35   #12 (permalink)
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I said it a year ago

I hate to say I told you so but...
Misread it, I pretty much agree with what pete is saying though
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:36   #13 (permalink)
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At this point in time, right as of now, Arsenal appear to be playing better and if some oddball scientist concocted a graph of the current trend then Arsenal would possibly finish above us but I am confident United will pull their recent poor results around and come back strongly.
Subjectively, we have also had a 5-0 win over Wigan inbetween recent poor results and also you could say being out of the FA Cup could be one less distraction and we could now concentrate on the league and Europe.
I agree. (I feel weird saying that)

I'm of the opinion that a lot of our poor form recently has been down to the fact that we've had 8 senior defenders plus Van Der Sar injured. The knock on effect has seen Fletcher and Carrick in defence which affects the midfield. And ultimately that has affected the ability of the midfield to create chances for the strikers.
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I agree. (I feel weird saying that)

I'm of the opinion that a lot of our poor form recently has been down to the fact that we've had 8 senior defenders plus Van Der Sar injured. The knock on effect has seen Fletcher and Carrick in defence which affects the midfield. And ultimately that has affected the ability of the midfield to create chances for the strikers.
Yes, you have been strangely nice and agreeable in recent days Logan/Storm (or Stogan), you must be toking some bad-arse skunk that's chilled you out these days lad.....
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:40   #15 (permalink)
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Yes, you have been strangely nice and agreeable in recent days Logan/Storm (or Stogan), you must be toking some bad-arse skunk that's chilled you out these days lad.....
I've just realised there's more to life than getting angry on the internet. I still think you're a cock though if it makes you feel any better.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:42   #16 (permalink)
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not that long ago SAF said that it was a two-horse race: oursleves and Chelsea.

interesting comment if he actually said this
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I've just realised there's more to life than getting angry on the internet. I still think you're a cock though if it makes you feel any better.
Oddly it doesn't because I am a loveable rogue and need to feel that I am liked.
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Old 6th January 2010, 23:47   #18 (permalink)
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I think Arsenal have looked the strongest so far except for a couple of games (like the one against Chelsea incidentally), then Chelsea and us about the same level. I wouldn't put any of the three teams as favorites for the title honestly. I think we are more fragile and prone to stupid defeats than them though.
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Old 7th January 2010, 02:46   #19 (permalink)
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arsenal WILL crumble before May, it always happen
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Old 7th January 2010, 13:24   #22 (permalink)
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Old 7th January 2010, 13:35   #23 (permalink)
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Old 7th January 2010, 13:36   #24 (permalink)
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arsenal WILL crumble before May, it always happen
Didn't in '98, '02, or '04.

I think they'll challenge if they can keep the majority of their squad fit.
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Old 7th January 2010, 13:43   #25 (permalink)
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I hate to say I told you so but...
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Old 7th January 2010, 14:20   #26 (permalink)
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Arsenal have looked like the best side this year to me

Will be interesting to see what happens when both us and them get back to full strength, especially with Chelsea losing some players to the African Nations.
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Old 7th January 2010, 14:55   #27 (permalink)
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One thing that Arsenal lack is experience. I'm predicting they'll bottle it as soon as serious talk about them being potential winners start.
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Didn't in '98, '02, or '04.

I think they'll challenge if they can keep the majority of their squad fit.
3 of 11 - Will they make it 4/12 ?
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One thing that Arsenal lack is experience. I'm predicting they'll bottle it as soon as serious talk about them being potential winners start.
Which is alot sooner than you think.

With the CAN now, Arsenal may extend their stay near the top. but I think it's inevitable they'll falter, especially considering the injuries they seem to be bugged by.
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Old 7th January 2010, 16:19   #31 (permalink)
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3 of 11 - Will they make it 4/12 ?
We dont like to win it every year... we find the fans don't value the victory as much if we do that. Wenger knows this, so he goes for his quarter strategy which you have stumbled across and must be dealt with.
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Old 7th January 2010, 16:50   #32 (permalink)
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Alex didn't make an appearance in the league until December. His opinion matters nothing.
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Old 7th January 2010, 17:13   #34 (permalink)
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they've still got van Persie to come back yet.
Ah right, I thought you were talking about this season!

The fact that he's pretty much out for the season is one of the main reasons that I don't think Arsenal will find the consistency to be there at the end.
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Old 7th January 2010, 17:14   #35 (permalink)
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Originally I didnt think Arsenal would have enough to launch a serious title bid this season. And they may not go on to do that, so I may still have been right. But given the weird nature of this season where really Chelsea havent realised the full potential of the talent in their squad and run away with it by now like they should have and we still havent seen the best of all our players either, perhaps Arsenal will have enough afterall. I'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 7th January 2010, 17:26   #36 (permalink)
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Of course not.

It's unbelievable just how much people seem to want to underrate this team.

They may have a game in hand, but we have the little fact of having won the past 3 league titles behind us. Chelsea would be stupid to ignore us as their biggest threat.
Yup. People never learn, Nev.
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we dont like to win it every year... We find the fans don't value the victory as much if we do that. Wenger knows this, so he goes for his quarter strategy which you have stumbled across and must be dealt with.
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Arse are very unlikely to finish in the top 2.
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They may have a game in hand, but we have the little fact of having won the past 3 league titles behind us.
I'm not sure that momentum will account for much. We look less confident than we did last season (and we weren't amazing last season, despite our superb results).
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