Bebe

Raoul · 9th January 2012, 08:58

Radio silence on the Bebe front. Any word on his recovery ?

Sunny Jim · 9th January 2012, 09:25

dunno, but do we need a new thread on this lad?

Randall Flagg · 9th January 2012, 09:36

I for one believe the name Bebe and everything to do with him should be removed from our history.

Let’s just pretend he never happened.

I pretty much never criticise Fergie. And when we signed him I was in denial and tried to even see potential when he made his debut.

But we signed a pub footballer….for £7million

He should be stricken from the records.

TheReligion · 9th January 2012, 09:37

The Bebe thread...

SharkyMcShark · 9th January 2012, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

I for one believe the name Bebe and everything to do with him should be removed from our history.

Let’s just pretend he never happened.

I pretty much never criticise Fergie. And when we signed him I was in denial and tried to even see potential when he made his debut.

But we signed a pub footballer….for £7million

He should be stricken from the records.

Better scoring rate than Torres and Carroll to be fair

Pogue Mahone · 9th January 2012, 10:36

His scoring rate's actually better than most strikers. Close to one in two iirc.

It's everything else that lets him down.

Randall Flagg · 9th January 2012, 10:44

Indeed, that whole playing football malarkey seems to be beyond him

At least 2 of his goals had more than a bit of luck too. How many goals in total did he have....2?

Orton · 9th January 2012, 10:47

I doubt he'd even make the team at Arbroath...

MacMUFC · 9th January 2012, 10:51

Worst signing in the Premier League era.

Raoul · 9th January 2012, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Jim

dunno, but do we need a new thread on this lad?

Yes, the old one is very long and full of historigraphical nonsense.

Sarni · 9th January 2012, 10:54

He could still make it IMO. He's got the ability, he's just very raw. Alec has high hopes for him, he will turn him into a star.

Scrumpet · 9th January 2012, 10:54

All you Doubting Thomases will see one day. Bebe shall show you all.

Orton · 9th January 2012, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarni

He could still make it IMO. He's got the ability, he's just very raw. Alec has high hopes for him, he will turn him into a star.

As a professional footballer?

Raoul · 9th January 2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by MacMUFC

Worst signing in the Premier League era.

I'd say that's harsh. We don't know what he's capable of yet. This was to be his developmental year before the injury.

Aboutreika18 · 9th January 2012, 11:05

£7m.

Newcastle paid £8m for their central midfield duo of Cabaye and Tiote.

Sack Bebe, sign Graham Carr.

MacMUFC · 9th January 2012, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoul

I'd say that's harsh. We don't know what he's capable of yet. This was to be his developmental year before the injury.

If he even comes close to scratching the surface of whats required to be a regular United player, he'd have to develop at a rate of fairly incredible proportions.

I expect him to come back from injury, hit a few children with his crosses and then leave. We'll never get anything close to the fee of what we paid for him and i'd be absolutely amazed if he remained in the Premier League.

Quite easily the worst signing in the Premier League in my eyes; at least Ali Dia was free.

Raoul · 9th January 2012, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMUFC

If he even comes close to scratching the surface of whats required to be a regular United player, he'd have to develop at a rate of fairly incredible proportions.

I expect him to come back from injury, hit a few children with his crosses and then leave. We'll never get anything close to the fee of what we paid for him and i'd be absolutely amazed if he remained in the Premier League.

Quite easily the worst signing in the Premier League in my eyes; at least Ali Dia was free.

We don't know why he was loaned out. It could've been to develop him and bring him back for another run with the first team. It could also have been to get rid of him for the time being with a view towards a permanent move elsewhere. Given that we don't know, I'd say its premature to make any judgements on his abilities given how little time he's had with us and the injury as well.

TheReligion · 9th January 2012, 11:25

I wouldn't usually moan but this thread should be merged considering the fuss which is usually made about duplicates!

Randall Flagg · 9th January 2012, 11:33

It was funny when Eamon Dunphy called him Bebo for some reason.

I am going to call him Bebo from now on

FreakyJim · 9th January 2012, 12:58

It's either a deliberate dodgy transfer the club had to make for some unknown reason (agent related, some say) or it's a monumental fuck up and the scout responsible should be fired, from a cannon, into the sun.

AVARiCE · 9th January 2012, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aboutreika18

£7m.

Newcastle paid £8m for their central midfield duo of Cabaye and Tiote.

Sack Bebe, sign Graham Carr.

This number goes up and down as appropriate. Last week it was £10m when people were talking about our midfield against theirs. Now it's £8m. I also vaguely remember Cabaye alone costing "just under £10m" when we were talking about summer signings. Jus' sayin'.

Hellboy · 9th January 2012, 20:29

Cabaye cost 5 million euros.

adexkola · 9th January 2012, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Let’s just pretend he never happened

mu77 · 9th January 2012, 20:51

who gives a fuck about this guy? truly.

Sultan · 9th January 2012, 21:40

His biggest assets are power and pace.

Going by what he's shown so far at United his level is the league he was originally signed.

Widnes · 9th January 2012, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Indeed, that whole playing football malarkey seems to be beyond him

At least 2 of his goals had more than a bit of luck too. How many goals in total did he have....2?

Yep because there is no dubious goal panel for the Carling Cup or ECL, fairly certain both was own goals.

Skywarden · 9th January 2012, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyJim

It's either a deliberate dodgy transfer the club had to make for some unknown reason (agent related, some say) or it's a monumental fuck up and the scout responsible should be fired, from a cannon, into the sun.

The club would never gamble that sort of money on a player who SAF had not watched - not even once!. No way. The first reason you brought up is the most plausible.

RK · 9th January 2012, 23:00

It's staggering how many people have written him off. 7 appearances for United (how many as a sub?) and he was obviously low on confidence. I could show 7 appearances in a row of Rooney playing shite, it's just too few to judge.

Shame about the injury, it's certainly made any chance he had much smaller.

Ramshock · 9th January 2012, 23:00

Ah, bring the best out of the average Caf member by bringing up Bebe! I thought we all agreed he didnt deserve to live? I bet theres at least 100 blokes on here more talented than this poor excuse for a human being. I tell you what thats see if the burns quicker than petrol the prick, how dare he exist etc etc yadda yadda! STFU and leave the kid aloine!!!

Donut · 9th January 2012, 23:18

Some people made a lot of money on this hobo. And now he conveniently broke his leg? Hmmm... I wonder if there's gonna be complications with his recovery and he'll have to end his "career".

finneh · 9th January 2012, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK

It's staggering how many people have written him off. 7 appearances for United (how many as a sub?) and he was obviously low on confidence. I could show 7 appearances in a row of Rooney playing shite, it's just too few to judge.

Shame about the injury, it's certainly made any chance he had much smaller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoul

I'd say that's harsh. We don't know what he's capable of yet. This was to be his developmental year before the injury.

Most sources stated there was an option for Besiktas to make the loan permanent, for c.£3m if I recall. It kind of suggests that everyone has realised it was a monumental error of judgement.

AlwaysRedwood · 9th January 2012, 23:30

Shitty Google translation but this is from a Turkish newspaper:

Quote:

According to Sabah, head of the camp season, after breaking of the knee in February....team work and the striker is expected to play the second half, the last 10 weeks.

Kaynak : Google Translate

Burrow · 10th January 2012, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by finneh

Most sources stated there was an option for Besiktas to make the loan permanent, for c.£3m if I recall. It kind of suggests that everyone has realised it was a monumental error of judgement.

That has been denied, and your point is rendered moot

ArmchairCritic · 10th January 2012, 00:18

Ahhhh well at least we made a homeless guy rich, there's always a chance he could well make it, though it looks a very small chance.

Unam333 · 10th January 2012, 00:38

Must be our worst signing for a while. I thought Dong was bad. Spunking 7m on a homeless guy.

Kid Cunto · 10th January 2012, 02:51

Shows you what Ferguson thinks of him that he broke his leg, returned to United for medical reasons and we sent him packing back to Turkey to sit on his arse.

mkecane · 10th January 2012, 04:47

It's a lot easier to pretend that we got him on a free and signed Chicharito for approximately £14m.

Drainy · 10th January 2012, 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkecane

It's a lot easier to pretend that we got him on a free and signed Chicharito for approximately £14m.

Scouse logic there.

Sonny Feehan · 10th January 2012, 07:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyJim

It's either a deliberate dodgy transfer the club had to make for some unknown reason (agent related, some say) or it's a monumental fuck up and the scout responsible should be fired, from a cannon, into the sun.

Agreed. I sometimes wonder about those other two signings, Tomsich and the other player, forgot his name. maybe connected to the Vidic signing. Definitely dodgy

buckooo1978 · 10th January 2012, 07:52

Am I the Only one not ready to write him off

He showed real raw power and pace in the reserve games I watched and if he works hard in training he could develop into a decent player IMO

Didn't he do well at besiktas before injury?

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9th January 2012, 09:25	#2 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 14,700	dunno, but do we need a new thread on this lad?

9th January 2012, 09:36	#3 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	I for one believe the name Bebe and everything to do with him should be removed from our history. Let’s just pretend he never happened. I pretty much never criticise Fergie. And when we signed him I was in denial and tried to even see potential when he made his debut. But we signed a pub footballer….for £7million He should be stricken from the records.

9th January 2012, 09:37	#4 (permalink)
TheReligion First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,461	The Bebe thread...

9th January 2012, 10:36	#6 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	His scoring rate's actually better than most strikers. Close to one in two iirc. It's everything else that lets him down.

9th January 2012, 10:44	#7 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	Indeed, that whole playing football malarkey seems to be beyond him At least 2 of his goals had more than a bit of luck too. How many goals in total did he have....2?

9th January 2012, 10:47	#8 (permalink)
Orton Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bonnie wee Scotland Posts: 7,208	I doubt he'd even make the team at Arbroath...

9th January 2012, 10:51	#9 (permalink)
MacMUFC Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,370	Worst signing in the Premier League era.

9th January 2012, 10:54	#11 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 21,628	He could still make it IMO. He's got the ability, he's just very raw. Alec has high hopes for him, he will turn him into a star.

9th January 2012, 10:54	#12 (permalink)
Scrumpet First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ipswich Town (SM) Posts: 8,333	All you Doubting Thomases will see one day. Bebe shall show you all.

9th January 2012, 11:05	#15 (permalink)
Aboutreika18 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: You contaminated my day,ROONEY is too blunt to be a striker. Posts: 3,045	£7m. Newcastle paid £8m for their central midfield duo of Cabaye and Tiote. Sack Bebe, sign Graham Carr.

9th January 2012, 11:25	#18 (permalink)
TheReligion First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9,461	I wouldn't usually moan but this thread should be merged considering the fuss which is usually made about duplicates!

9th January 2012, 11:33	#19 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	It was funny when Eamon Dunphy called him Bebo for some reason. I am going to call him Bebo from now on

9th January 2012, 12:58	#20 (permalink)
FreakyJim Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SolarX Posts: 3,698	It's either a deliberate dodgy transfer the club had to make for some unknown reason (agent related, some say) or it's a monumental fuck up and the scout responsible should be fired, from a cannon, into the sun.

9th January 2012, 20:29	#22 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 9,575	Cabaye cost 5 million euros.

9th January 2012, 20:51	#24 (permalink)
mu77 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,737	who gives a fuck about this guy? truly.

9th January 2012, 21:40	#25 (permalink)
Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: It is better for a leader to make a mistake in forgiving than to make a mistake in punishing Posts: 31,452	His biggest assets are power and pace. Going by what he's shown so far at United his level is the league he was originally signed.

9th January 2012, 23:00	#28 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13,933	It's staggering how many people have written him off. 7 appearances for United (how many as a sub?) and he was obviously low on confidence. I could show 7 appearances in a row of Rooney playing shite, it's just too few to judge. Shame about the injury, it's certainly made any chance he had much smaller.

9th January 2012, 23:00	#29 (permalink)
Ramshock poster of nonsense Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Four Green Fields Posts: 10,348	Ah, bring the best out of the average Caf member by bringing up Bebe! I thought we all agreed he didnt deserve to live? I bet theres at least 100 blokes on here more talented than this poor excuse for a human being. I tell you what thats see if the burns quicker than petrol the prick, how dare he exist etc etc yadda yadda! STFU and leave the kid aloine!!!

9th January 2012, 23:18	#30 (permalink)
Donut Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,860	Some people made a lot of money on this hobo. And now he conveniently broke his leg? Hmmm... I wonder if there's gonna be complications with his recovery and he'll have to end his "career".

10th January 2012, 00:18	#34 (permalink)
ArmchairCritic First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. Posts: 6,390	Ahhhh well at least we made a homeless guy rich, there's always a chance he could well make it, though it looks a very small chance.

10th January 2012, 00:38	#35 (permalink)
Unam333 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,650	Must be our worst signing for a while. I thought Dong was bad. Spunking 7m on a homeless guy.

10th January 2012, 02:51	#36 (permalink)
Kid Cunto Good Craig got his c'nuppins Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In sir-arles we trust. Posts: 6,289	Shows you what Ferguson thinks of him that he broke his leg, returned to United for medical reasons and we sent him packing back to Turkey to sit on his arse.

10th January 2012, 04:47	#37 (permalink)
mkecane Youth Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 319	It's a lot easier to pretend that we got him on a free and signed Chicharito for approximately £14m.

10th January 2012, 07:52	#40 (permalink)
buckooo1978 First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,026	Am I the Only one not ready to write him off He showed real raw power and pace in the reserve games I watched and if he works hard in training he could develop into a decent player IMO Didn't he do well at besiktas before injury?