Go Back   RedCafe.net > Football Discussion > Manchester United Forum

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 7th September 2010, 17:15   #521 (permalink)
First Team Regular
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own.
Posts: 18,586
that was horrific
SharkyMcShark is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:18   #522 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,510
he has some good movement, but need to work on his finishing.
Kelvin is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:21   #523 (permalink)
Reserve Team Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dortmund, Germany
Posts: 4,531
The goal

Bebe v Macedonia U21
Jaap is online now  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:23   #524 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
Nice run from Bebe there
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:24   #525 (permalink)
Reserve Team Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Centre-Circle of the Theatre of Dreams
Posts: 1,151
Send a message via MSN to Hoof The Ball Send a message via Yahoo to Hoof The Ball
lovely dribbling on the left!
Hoof The Ball is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:26   #526 (permalink)
Formerly Mad
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 127.0.0.1
Posts: 5,310
Start against Villa in the RPL then, Stockport in the MSC might be too early for him.
Maajid is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:31   #527 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
Bebe nearly through there not to happy with the pass though
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:31   #528 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Bebe crushes defender
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:39   #529 (permalink)
Reserve Team Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Centre-Circle of the Theatre of Dreams
Posts: 1,151
Send a message via MSN to Hoof The Ball Send a message via Yahoo to Hoof The Ball
Some nice dribbling on the left there, almost through on goal...
Hoof The Ball is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:39   #530 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Bebe nearly through, brave stop by keeper
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:40   #531 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
Bebe through again credit to the keeper.But how did the ball not go in they had two more chances after that
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:40   #532 (permalink)
Formerly RedAddict
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country.
Posts: 9,120
He just killed the goalkeeper.

I make that 3 attempted assassinations so far.
Kraftwerker is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:41   #533 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 'And Solskjær has won it'
Posts: 9,509
Bebe has done well today. Lots of promise.
Scholesy is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:44   #534 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober
Posts: 5,718
He's been much more involved playing wide than when he was played alone up front last time, definitely seems more comfortable as a winger/wide-forward. Shown some nice bits of skill, has pace and strength, but looks very, very, raw. Despite being included in the CL squad I'd be absolutely amazed if he made a first team appearance this season.
SecondFig is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:45   #535 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondFig View Post
He's been much more involved playing wide than when he was played alone up front last time, definitely seems more comfortable as a winger/wide-forward. Shown some nice bits of skill, has pace and strength, but looks very, very, raw. Despite being included in the CL squad I'd be absolutely amazed if he made a first team appearance this season.
it depend if we have qualify from the cl group stage earlier, he might have his chance.
Kelvin is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:46   #536 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
2-0 Portugal
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:46   #537 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondFig View Post
He's been much more involved playing wide than when he was played alone up front last time, definitely seems more comfortable as a winger/wide-forward. Shown some nice bits of skill, has pace and strength, but looks very, very, raw. Despite being included in the CL squad I'd be absolutely amazed if he made a first team appearance this season.
He'll play in the CC, and maybe come on at the end of the odd league game. Even Manucho did that much, and Bebe looks way better than Manucho.
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:47   #538 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Bebe off, interest over
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:48   #539 (permalink)
Incorrigible pest
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The 'Greater' Manchester
Posts: 4,946
He's substituted.
scholesy legend is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:48   #540 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
Bebe substituted.Been impressed by him.Certainly can be worked on
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:49   #541 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober
Posts: 5,718
Quote:
Originally Posted by charleysurf View Post
He'll play in the CC, and maybe come on at the end of the odd league game. Even Manucho did that much, and Bebe looks way better than Manucho.
I think the CC will come to soon for him, at least the easy games will. And in all honesty, we have a large squad with a lot of promising youngsters, barring either a very bad injury crisis or Bebe developing and settling very very quickly, I wouldn't expect to see him in a 1st team game until next season at the earliest. Despite his being 20 he's years behind in terms of the development and training normal youngsters have.
SecondFig is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:49   #542 (permalink)
Reserve Team Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Centre-Circle of the Theatre of Dreams
Posts: 1,151
Send a message via MSN to Hoof The Ball Send a message via Yahoo to Hoof The Ball
He's raw, but there's talent. Still, though he's raw he most certainly isn't Bellion "Raw"
Hoof The Ball is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:51   #543 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Again I think he's looked like a player we'd be taking a keen interest in if we had never heard of him before. Big, quick, good skills. He's certainly raw, but the potential is amazing.
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:52   #544 (permalink)
No Lifer
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 30,930
3-0 Portugal
Drifter is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:53   #545 (permalink)
Formerly RedAddict
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country.
Posts: 9,120
He's not afraid to put himself about anyway. Allied to his pace, skills, and raw ability, he's certainly got alot to work with.
Kraftwerker is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:56   #546 (permalink)
First Team Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Gaz. Is a Mewling Quim.
Posts: 19,520
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraftwerker View Post
He's not afraid to put himself about anyway. Allied to his pace, skills, and raw ability, he's certainly got alot to work with.
Already spent too long with Rooney then...
phelans shorts is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:58   #547 (permalink)
Twitter bot
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Birmingham + Londinium
Posts: 9,977
3-1
Sean_RedDevil is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 17:59   #548 (permalink)
Talks sense
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 9,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecondFig View Post
I think the CC will come to soon for him, at least the easy games will. And in all honesty, we have a large squad with a lot of promising youngsters, barring either a very bad injury crisis or Bebe developing and settling very very quickly, I wouldn't expect to see him in a 1st team game until next season at the earliest. Despite his being 20 he's years behind in terms of the development and training normal youngsters have.
He will definitely get some minutes for the first team this season. Not many, but some.

We can expect Obertan to get some playing time for the first team, but I think Bebe is already a safer option in an important way: Obertan seems to have no clue how to defend. Bebe at least looks like he knows how to track back and tackle.
charleysurf is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 18:01   #549 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,305
Big, quick, good skill, not many players possess all these qualities, usually only one or two of which you would expect from a promising young player. I think this is the type of raw talent surely worth invest in.
RedRonaldo is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 18:02   #550 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober
Posts: 5,718
Quote:
Originally Posted by charleysurf View Post
He will definitely get some minutes for the first team this season. Not many, but some.

We can expect Obertan to get some playing time for the first team, but I think Bebe is already a safer option in an important way: Obertan seems to have no clue how to defend. Bebe at least looks like he knows how to track back.
Just have to wait and see, but like I said, personally I don't expect to see him make a first team appearance this season.
SecondFig is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 18:06   #551 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cyprus
Posts: 5,068
Like Hernandez I can see him being a very useful substitute, which is the best way to phase them into the squad rotation. His power and pace are very apparent.
Aporkalypse is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 18:43   #552 (permalink)
Reserve Team Player
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Watford (On that online manager thing I most likely will get bored of soon)
Posts: 1,769
Norwegian scout Tor Kristian Karlsen has been following Bebe closely in his last two games for Portugal u21. After todays match, he had the following to say on his twitter profile:

Quote:
effective when allowed to roam wide, needs acres of space ahead of him. very pacy, strong and direct. better movement today.

one vs one skills are unquestionable. less effective in the middle due to limited tactical understanding and close control/technique

but was quite impressed with the way he timed his runs from wide to central (goalscoring positions)

as we know, rough around the edges. shooting technique, heading (coordination, jumping technique) need serious fine tuning

but pace, directness can potentialy scare living daylight out of defenders (esp. when coming off bench)
Eirik Raude is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 19:19   #553 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 5,619
Send a message via MSN to UnitedRoadRed Send a message via Yahoo to UnitedRoadRed
What the fuck is serious fine tuning?

That's like the advert in Cheetham Hill for quality used tyres
UnitedRoadRed is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 19:33   #554 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 'And Solskjær has won it'
Posts: 9,509
He is a winger, so I think it is a bit unfair to criticise his close control -Karlsen-, which was actually good I thought. My concern is his crossing, its not very dangerous. Worked hard and much better at defending than Obertan. Overall, he was a million times better than against England.

I see him playing on the wide left.
Scholesy is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 20:31   #555 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Married with Manchester United, In love with Giggs, Is passionate about Scholes, and is rooting for Bebe'
Posts: 5,548
Send a message via AIM to RedThaiDevils#7 Send a message via Yahoo to RedThaiDevils#7
Seriously, WTF was the GK doing for Bebe's goal

I was a powerful shot but I mean it was directly at him.
RedThaiDevils#7 is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 20:38   #556 (permalink)
Has excellent taste in women
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: india
Posts: 27,701
What does 'needs acres of space ahead of him' mean? Is his ball control that bad? Is he a good dribbler?
amolbhatia100 is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 20:43   #557 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ▲ You Are Here? - Maybe you think we were all a sheet in the wind's eye. But I'll tell you I was sober
Posts: 5,718
Quote:
Originally Posted by amolbhatia100 View Post
What does 'needs acres of space ahead of him' mean? Is his ball control that bad? Is he a good dribbler?
He's a good dribbler 1-on-1 and has lots of pace, but he's not good at finding space in tight situations, hence "needs acres of space ahead of him".

It's basically just saying that he needs to work on his awareness and understanding of the game, footballing intelligence if you will
SecondFig is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 20:53   #558 (permalink)
First Team Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,932
So is he the new Best or Ronaldo?
Ole's_toe_poke is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 21:20   #559 (permalink)
First Team Sub
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,127
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitedRoadRed View Post
What the fuck is serious fine tuning?

That's like the advert in Cheetham Hill for quality used tyres
It means he needs a lot of work. The raw potential is there, it needs to be sculpted away and polished. Why split hairs with semantics when it seems the scout is in a better position to give a fair assessment?


Quote:
Originally Posted by amolbhatia100 View Post
What does 'needs acres of space ahead of him' mean? Is his ball control that bad? Is he a good dribbler?
limited tactical understanding and close control/technique - so yes, if you believe the scouts report is accurate then his ball control skills aren't that good. (yet)
Devilton is offline  
Old 7th September 2010, 21:24   #560 (permalink)
Wants to be more like Top
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RIP Sydney Youngblood, who died in a tragic go-karting accident in 2007. RIP my cat 2001-09. iRIP Steve Cunting Jobs
Posts: 42,368
The new Paulo Wanchope?!
Spoony Youngblood is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

 


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:46.

Back to top


Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO