Best ever season by a United player.

Striker10 · 5th June 2008, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Dippersripper

A few did, a few won't. Just because Ronaldo scored more goals doesn't mean he had a better season. He scored a lot less last season, but he was clearly better.

performance wise I agree. Ronaldo showed i'd say about 70% of his actual ability. He did have great games last season, like the final even but what really stood out was his goals.

The previous season he had a better balance and his performances were better, for me anyway.

reddevilcanada · 5th June 2008, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Striker10

performance wise I agree. Ronaldo showed i'd say about 70% of his actual ability. He did have great games last season, like the final even but what really stood out was his goals.

The previous season he had a better balance and his performances were better, for me anyway.

I think the 20 extra goals, effectiveness and the fact that he led us to a title and CL double outweigh what he lacked in overall play last season compared to 06/07, however he still had many great games and performances, but the fact that he's scored 42 goals seems to distract from that.

Striker10 · 5th June 2008, 11:37

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Originally Posted by reddevilcanada

I think the 20 extra goals, effectiveness and the fact that he led us to a title and CL double outweigh what he lacked in overall play last season compared to 06/07, however he still had many great games and performances, but the fact that he's scored 42 goals seems to distract from that.

I know but i'm not against what you said. Infact I even said i thought Ronaldos last season was the best by a united player. It was an exceptonal effort. let's hope next season he get's even better....playing for united

FranklyVulgar · 5th June 2008, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Striker10

performance wise I agree. Ronaldo showed i'd say about 70% of his actual ability. He did have great games last season, like the final even but what really stood out was his goals.

The previous season he had a better balance and his performances were better, for me anyway.

I agree with you and dippersripper, last season Ronaldo was a one man show and was doing it all. His form at one point was unplayable.

This season he was outstanding but it was all goals, he became a goalscorer but his actual performances were not as good in my opinion.

reddevilcanada it seems that quite a few people actually arn't saying Ronaldos season was better than Bests, Charltons or Laws.

reddevilcanada · 5th June 2008, 12:13

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

I agree with you and dippersripper, last season Ronaldo was a one man show and was doing it all. His form at one point was unplayable.

This season he was outstanding but it was all goals, he became a goalscorer but his actual performances were not as good in my opinion.

reddevilcanada it seems that quite a few people actually arn't saying Ronaldos season was better than Bests, Charltons or Laws.

quite a few people still are, and I know there are more who haven't ventured into this thread who'd agree avec moi. Plus the fact that Ronaldo has been so "disloyal" these days seems to have played a part in their judgement > such as ukbob

More people seem to be saying it's Ronaldo than another player though, be it Cantona, Law or Keane, i.e. Ronaldo's gotten more nods than another player has...

btw, Striker10 is actually saying that Ronaldo's 07/08 was teh best ever by a United player, so perhaps you need to read a bit more carefully

Dippersripper · 5th June 2008, 12:18

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

I agree with you and dippersripper, last season Ronaldo was a one man show and was doing it all. His form at one point was unplayable.

This season he was outstanding but it was all goals, he became a goalscorer but his actual performances were not as good in my opinion.

reddevilcanada it seems that quite a few people actually arn't saying Ronaldos season was better than Bests, Charltons or Laws.

You may not agree with me completey. Despite not having his best of seasons, Ronnie was miles better than Messi's ever been.

KingEric7 · 5th June 2008, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Striker10

performance wise I agree. Ronaldo showed i'd say about 70% of his actual ability. He did have great games last season, like the final even but what really stood out was his goals.

The previous season he had a better balance and his performances were better, for me anyway.

He's been a completely different player this year and strangely enough it took one of IhabX7's videos to remind me of this. This year we have been watching another Thierry Henry. He's been ruthless in front of goal and produced moments of sheer brilliance. The complete forward, if you like.

However, last year i think he was a more dangerous player as he tended to run at his man a lot more which is something he did more in the final. Last year, Ronaldo would cause havoc every time he got the ball when he was on form. I'm unsure as to which Ronaldo i'd prefer but he's had 2 fantastic seasons either way.

FranklyVulgar · 5th June 2008, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Dippersripper

You may not agree with me completey. Despite not having his best of seasons, Ronnie was miles better than Messi's ever been.

I disagree with that entirely.

Messi is miles better than Ronnies ever been.

Decotron · 5th June 2008, 14:03

Good thread, Keane literally dragged us through so many matches it was amazing. His consistancy is something I havent seen since. Obviously Ronnie gets all the plaudits but for me having someone with Keanes drive and commitment means more to me.

Sky1981 · 5th June 2008, 15:47

Keane's drive and passion tops Ronaldo,

But I can't deny that he almost single handedly drag us to the 2 title.

Say what you like, but cut half of that 42 goals we won't be even in the 4th spot.

Guys, he deserves the praise, the worship, he stayed with us during after the world cup incident, and even if he indeed leaves us, he had paid clear all his debt to us.

KingEric7 · 5th June 2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by Sky1981

Keane's drive and passion tops Ronaldo,

But I can't deny that he almost single handedly drag us to the 2 title.

Say what you like, but cut half of that 42 goals we won't be even in the 4th spot.
Guys, he deserves the praise, the worship, he stayed with us during after the world cup incident, and even if he indeed leaves us, he had paid clear all his debt to us.

It doesn't really work like that though, does it?

thoward · 5th June 2008, 16:46

Keane in 99-00 was superb, for me he had a better season than the treble. Van Nistelrooy and Scholes in 02-03 also worth a mention.

Denis' cuff · 6th June 2008, 09:36

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Originally Posted by reddevilcanada

doesn't seem like you know how logic exactly works then

Ronaldo's season has been better than Bestie's 32 goal season and that has been acknowledged by posters who've seen him play, yet somehow you have difficulty understanding why that may be because Maradona never played for United

No it hasn't. He has scored more goals though. I may be missing something here, but I haven't seen one poster who saw George play that thinks Ronaldo is better. Regarding Maradonna, stop being a moron if you can.

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

I agree with you and dippersripper, last season Ronaldo was a one man show and was doing it all. His form at one point was unplayable.

This season he was outstanding but it was all goals, he became a goalscorer but his actual performances were not as good in my opinion.

reddevilcanada it seems that quite a few people actually arn't saying Ronaldos season was better than Bests, Charltons or Laws.

Also agree with Dippers that Ronaldo's form was better last season - but, contradicting myself, you could say his goals and finished product showed a different aspect to his game. Odd that we were saying he had no end product not long ago, now he has plenty of that but few assists and his general form wasn't as good. It's difficult to be critical of him because he has made a huge impact in the last two seasons but I still think he disappears against top opposition. Having said that, he still re-appears often enough to score against em

Gun held at head, best player season for me: Denis '64, bearing in mind I was young and impressionable but he was Britain's first EFotY so must've been pretty good. For me, he'll always be the King. Cocksure of himself and a fighter with huge crowd appeal and a character for good measure.

No matter how well Ronaldo plays, and I appreciate his play, I can't like him when he behaves like a brat, which he often does and is doing now
and I cringe at his falling over and appealing although I know he doesn't get some decisions from refs that he should but why the fuck doesn't he just get up and on with the game?

reddevilcanada · 6th June 2008, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Denis' cuff

No it hasn't. He has scored more goals though. I may be missing something here, but I haven't seen one poster who saw George play that thinks Ronaldo is better. Regarding Maradonna, stop being a moron if you can.

the only moron around here is you, learn to read you muppet, both surf and Sultan reckon Ronaldo's had the better season, and what the fuck are you on about with the maradona comment? I was responding to dipper's spastic comment pointing out that Maradona had never played for United, or are you trying to say that he did, in which case you're the fucking moron.

FranklyVulgar · 6th June 2008, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Denis' cuff

No it hasn't. He has scored more goals though. I may be missing something here, but I haven't seen one poster who saw George play that thinks Ronaldo is better. Regarding Maradonna, stop being a moron if you can.

Also agree with Dippers that Ronaldo's form was better last season - but, contradicting myself, you could say his goals and finished product showed a different aspect to his game. Odd that we were saying he had no end product not long ago, now he has plenty of that but few assists and his general form wasn't as good. It's difficult to be critical of him because he has made a huge impact in the last two seasons but I still think he disappears against top opposition. Having said that, he still re-appears often enough to score against em

Gun held at head, best player season for me: Denis '64, bearing in mind I was young and impressionable but he was Britain's first EFotY so must've been pretty good. For me, he'll always be the King. Cocksure of himself and a fighter with huge crowd appeal and a character for good measure.

No matter how well Ronaldo plays, and I appreciate his play, I can't like him when he behaves like a brat, which he often does and is doing now
and I cringe at his falling over and appealing although I know he doesn't get some decisions from refs that he should but why the fuck doesn't he just get up and on with the game?

I have only seen the one bit of footage of Law on youtube and he looked awesome. He looks like he invented the overhead kick!

But i've read a fair bit about Law because he is probably Scotlands greatest ever footballer. Also seen footage of him playing for Scotland against West Germany and he looked outstanding. THis is against THE west germans, beckenbauer and all and Law and Scotland for that matter looked exellent.

Fact that him and Best were best mates makes it all the sweeter and is such an important and significant part of the history of United. Ronaldo can score 50goals in a season but he'll never be a united legend like these guys.

Denis' cuff · 6th June 2008, 10:14

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Originally Posted by reddevilcanada

the only moron around here is you, learn to read you muppet, both surf and Sultan reckon Ronaldo's had the better season, and what the fuck are you on about with the maradona comment? I was responding to dipper's spastic comment pointing out that Maradona had never played for United, or are you trying to say that he did, in which case you're the fucking moron.

you really have the intellect of a 2 year old. I can "f" it with the best but I suppose you're safe in Canada behind your key board.

Have surf and sultan seen 10 years of Best playing for United and di they say Ronaldo was better?

I think the guy who brought Maradonna into it is well aware that he didn't play for United but that's beyond the limits of your reasoning. If you can't get the point of what he was saying, I really wonder how you communicate with the world at large. Or maybe you don't.

Dippersripper · 6th June 2008, 10:23

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Originally Posted by FranklyVulgar

I have only seen the one bit of footage of Law on youtube and he looked awesome. He looks like he invented the overhead kick!

But i've read a fair bit about Law because he is probably Scotlands greatest ever footballer. Also seen footage of him playing for Scotland against West Germany and he looked outstanding. THis is against THE west germans, beckenbauer and all and Law and Scotland for that matter looked exellent.

Fact that him and Best were best mates makes it all the sweeter and is such an important and significant part of the history of United. Ronaldo can score 50goals in a season but he'll never be a united legend like these guys.

Rubberman invented the overhead kick as far I know.

Dippersripper · 6th June 2008, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Denis' cuff

you really have the intellect of a 2 year old. I can "f" it with the best but I suppose you're safe in Canada behind your key board.

Have surf and sultan seen 10 years of Best playing for United and di they say Ronaldo was better?

I think the guy who brought Maradonna into it is well aware that he didn't play for United but that's beyond the limits of your reasoning. If you can't get the point of what he was saying, I really wonder how you communicate with the world at large. Or maybe you don't.

Exactly

reddevilcanada · 6th June 2008, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Denis' cuff

you really have the intellect of a 2 year old. I can "f" it with the best but I suppose you're safe in Canada behind your key board.

Have surf and sultan seen 10 years of Best playing for United and di they say Ronaldo was better?

I think the guy who brought Maradonna into it is well aware that he didn't play for United but that's beyond the limits of your reasoning. If you can't get the point of what he was saying, I really wonder how you communicate with the world at large. Or maybe you don't.

yeah, I'm the one who has the intellect of a 2 year old, yet you can't even read to see whether anybody in this thread has said Ronaldo has had the better season or not, or even understand what this thread is about!

I don't know whether surf or Sultan have seen 10 years of Best or not, but that's not really relevant though is it? because the thread isn't about whether Ronaldo was the best ever player in United history, is it about, NOW READ CAREFULLY SO YOU DON'T MISS THIS AS WELL, IT'S ABOUT THE BEST SEASON BY A UNITED PLAYER! Now, both surf and Sultan have seen Bestie's 32 goal season, and that's waht they've compared with Ronaldo's best ever season! It doesn't fucking matter whether they've seeon 10 years of best or not, because there is no question that Ronaldo isn't United's best ever player, he's still only 23 ffs!

Now, Since that's how long it's taken for you to understand the point of this thread and the comments in it, I don't think it's fair to put you through another explanation of the comment made by dippersripper about maradona and my response to it. I don't want you to get exposed to intellects of those over 2 years old too much, as you don't seem quite ready for it yet.

surf · 6th June 2008, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Denis' cuff

Have surf and sultan seen 10 years of Best playing for United and di they say Ronaldo was better?

I've watched them since before Best and it's just an opinion comparing their best single season. What's most impressed me about Ronaldo is the sheer variety of his goals and play - something I haven't seen from anyone else in the shirt over one season.

What you sat about Law is true. He seemed to be the fans' cult figure rather than Best or Charlton.

Sky1981 · 6th June 2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by KingEric7

It doesn't really work like that though, does it?

Maybe not, but if we're only 2pts ahead at the end of the day. Surely every goals counts, not to mention 21

Sky1981 · 6th June 2008, 16:15

To be honest, I never seen Best played, but to me this is Ron's season.

Regardless, just because I didn't see Best plays, doesn't make me at fault for saying Ron's wins it.

If one can't say Ron's better than Best, what's the point of this thread in the first place?

Sky1981 · 6th June 2008, 16:16

PS: If Ron's named Ronnie and comes from Ireland, he'll surely be taunted as the next Best.

I believe some people are a bit biased with the real madrid rumor lately.

Admit it, you know you wanted to say "See! I fucking told ya!"

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Decotron Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: So near I can smell it..... Posts: 1,859	Good thread, Keane literally dragged us through so many matches it was amazing. His consistancy is something I havent seen since. Obviously Ronnie gets all the plaudits but for me having someone with Keanes drive and commitment means more to me.

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Sky1981 Fending Off the Urge Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The reminiscence of long lost glory from the past Posts: 2,827	Keane's drive and passion tops Ronaldo, But I can't deny that he almost single handedly drag us to the 2 title. Say what you like, but cut half of that 42 goals we won't be even in the 4th spot. Guys, he deserves the praise, the worship, he stayed with us during after the world cup incident, and even if he indeed leaves us, he had paid clear all his debt to us.

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thoward First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Paddy Crerand is a legend "If i was playing in the match against Arsenal at OT IN 03/04 Martin Keown wouldnt have been able to walkoff the pitch at the end" Posts: 9,710	Keane in 99-00 was superb, for me he had a better season than the treble. Van Nistelrooy and Scholes in 02-03 also worth a mention.

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Sky1981 Fending Off the Urge Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The reminiscence of long lost glory from the past Posts: 2,827	To be honest, I never seen Best played, but to me this is Ron's season. Regardless, just because I didn't see Best plays, doesn't make me at fault for saying Ron's wins it. If one can't say Ron's better than Best, what's the point of this thread in the first place?

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Sky1981 Fending Off the Urge Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The reminiscence of long lost glory from the past Posts: 2,827	PS: If Ron's named Ronnie and comes from Ireland, he'll surely be taunted as the next Best. I believe some people are a bit biased with the real madrid rumor lately. Admit it, you know you wanted to say "See! I fucking told ya!"