Can a loss be a win?

afrocentricity · 29th August 2008, 21:47

Yes...

Champions.

prateik · 29th August 2008, 21:53

we didnt have to trade that for the other trophy ..

yes ... now fergie will play brown against the dippers and rio will get start getting some sleep the night before the game and some red bull just before KO

Red442 · 29th August 2008, 21:54

I don't think anybody is particularly bothered that we lost. We didn't really get going until we were 2-0 down.

JCurr · 29th August 2008, 21:55

Rooney seemed to get his legs under him somewhere around the 60 minute mark. Win.

Nistelrooy10 · 29th August 2008, 21:56

Scholesgoals · 29th August 2008, 21:57

well it might motivate us against liverpool, we dont often lose two on the trot. in fact, i cant think of a time off the top of my head.

Nanison · 29th August 2008, 21:57

I'm bothered, such a lacklustre performance with Europe watching. Great thinking lads! Even Scholes off all people made an arse of himself.

Can't be positive about players that don't want to fight for the cause

Tevez for life

MUFCgal · 29th August 2008, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Red442

I don't think anybody is particularly bothered that we lost. We didn't really get going until we were 2-0 down.

I'm bothered. It's a trophy at the end of the day and unfortunately we came to life when it was too late. I'm bothered about the fact that Carlos Tevez was running his bollocks off and nobody was remotely trying to put in the effort that he was putting in. That's it, we move on to the Dippers

Raven_Blade · 29th August 2008, 22:01

No. But it can be used to motivate us. Never want to experience that again this season.

afrocentricity · 29th August 2008, 22:03

Chin up

Could be much worse...

afrocentricity · 29th August 2008, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Nanison

I'm bothered, such a lacklustre performance with Europe watching. Great thinking lads!

That is great thinking, let them think what they wan't because we are a lot better than we showed...

Nanison · 29th August 2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by afrocentricity

That is great thinking, let them think what they wan't because we are a lot better than we showed...

United never shows their real worth in Europe. European games have been quite boring lately except offcourse the odd results vs Roma. It might have won us a CL but that's not enough to emulate our great team of the late 90's early 00's...

afrocentricity · 29th August 2008, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Nanison

United never shows their real worth in Europe. European games have been quite boring lately except offcourse the odd results vs Roma. It might have won us a CL but that's not enough to emulate our great team of the late 90's early 00's...

Fair point that... still, it was nice to win it right?

Skholesy · 29th August 2008, 22:15

I hope people now realise two things:

1. In our team, in most games especially against the cream of europe, we need a solid defensive type midfielder, be it o'shea, hargreaves, or to a certain extent, carrick (even possebon but thats pushing it). People slagging of JOS should be shot - he plays a vital role in our squad and should have started tonight.

2. we need proper wingers in the team. not fletcher. Happy park is back

3. Our striker combo would be better if its a striker (benzema, huntelaar, berbs) and any one of rooney/tevez.

4. Gazza needs a lot of time before he can challenge for RB again

Sultan · 29th August 2008, 22:17

Can a loss be a win?

That's what the gooners said after last seasons FA Cup mauling.

Whelan_88 · 29th August 2008, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanison

I'm bothered, such a lacklustre performance with Europe watching. Great thinking lads! Even Scholes off all people made an arse of himself.

Can't be positive about players that don't want to fight for the cause

Tevez for life

It's a glorified friendly to make UEFA a bit more money and give their directors a bit of a night out. I'm unconcerned, it made far more to Zenit who were comparing themselves against the best in the world. We had them on the ropes for much of the second half and with everyone to come back in we'll be far stronger when Europe really kicks in.

afrocentricity · 29th August 2008, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Sultan

Can a loss be a win?

That's what the gooners said after last seasons FA Cup mauling.

FlawlessThaw · 29th August 2008, 23:30

Dumb people might have figured out by now that Anderson and Scholes cant play in a two man midfield.

Ferguson · 29th August 2008, 23:35

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

Dumb people might have figured out by now that Anderson and Scholes cant play in a two man midfield.

I think the jury is out on that.

Scholes and Anderson played well together last season.

Our problems today were due to poor wing play - Nani was rusty and poor; Neville didn't get forward like he can; Fletcher lacked energy and isn't a natural winger.

FlawlessThaw · 29th August 2008, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Ferguson

I think the jury is out on that.

Scholes and Anderson played well together last season.

Our problems today were due to poor wing play - Nani was rusty and poor; Neville didn't get forward like he can; Fletcher lacked energy and isn't a natural winger.

They didn't play well together whenever they came up against a decent midfield. When up against a poor one they did alright because we managed to overpower them, heck any team that has the likes of Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo should win most games.

You're right though about our wing play but it was O'Shea who made the difference in the second half.

Sarni · 29th August 2008, 23:47

Whole Europe watching?

I haven't watched Super Cup in years and wouldn't have watched this one either if United wasn't in it.

It's a meaningless game.

Rudie · 30th August 2008, 00:09

People seem to forget that teams such as Madrid etc have only won this cup as many times as we have, although having more attempts... Munich have never won it, it's hardly the hall mark of European greats. Too many drama queens on the Caf, there needs to be a cull.

TR · 30th August 2008, 00:26

It's the European Community Shield, simple as that. Nonetheless, it's always unpleasant watching opposing players run through your defence like a hot knife through butter.

29th August 2008, 21:47	#1 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 7,245	Can a loss be a win? Yes... Champions.

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Nistelrooy10 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,519	They had us

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prateik Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,070	we didnt have to trade that for the other trophy .. yes ... now fergie will play brown against the dippers and rio will get start getting some sleep the night before the game and some red bull just before KO

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Red442 Last Man Standing Champion Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here> Posts: 1,460	I don't think anybody is particularly bothered that we lost. We didn't really get going until we were 2-0 down.

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JCurr Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: the desolate land of football that is the United States... feckin wankers galore. Posts: 820	Rooney seemed to get his legs under him somewhere around the 60 minute mark. Win.

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Scholesgoals Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: THE BULLSHIT AND TYRANNY MUST END, PROMOTE KEPEK! Posts: 1,800	well it might motivate us against liverpool, we dont often lose two on the trot. in fact, i cant think of a time off the top of my head.

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Nanison Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	I'm bothered, such a lacklustre performance with Europe watching. Great thinking lads! Even Scholes off all people made an arse of himself. Can't be positive about players that don't want to fight for the cause Tevez for life

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Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In Man Utd's Defence. Posts: 18,233	No. But it can be used to motivate us. Never want to experience that again this season.

29th August 2008, 22:03	#10 (permalink)
afrocentricity First Team Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thinking up a new location... Posts: 7,245	Chin up Could be much worse...

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Skholesy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,915	I hope people now realise two things: 1. In our team, in most games especially against the cream of europe, we need a solid defensive type midfielder, be it o'shea, hargreaves, or to a certain extent, carrick (even possebon but thats pushing it). People slagging of JOS should be shot - he plays a vital role in our squad and should have started tonight. 2. we need proper wingers in the team. not fletcher. Happy park is back 3. Our striker combo would be better if its a striker (benzema, huntelaar, berbs) and any one of rooney/tevez. 4. Gazza needs a lot of time before he can challenge for RB again

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Sultan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown Posts: 16,781	Can a loss be a win? That's what the gooners said after last seasons FA Cup mauling.

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FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 10,545	Dumb people might have figured out by now that Anderson and Scholes cant play in a two man midfield.

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Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 11,820	Whole Europe watching? I haven't watched Super Cup in years and wouldn't have watched this one either if United wasn't in it. It's a meaningless game.

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Rudie Mentary Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Original Rudeboy Posts: 2,497	People seem to forget that teams such as Madrid etc have only won this cup as many times as we have, although having more attempts... Munich have never won it, it's hardly the hall mark of European greats. Too many drama queens on the Caf, there needs to be a cull.

30th August 2008, 00:26	#23 (permalink)
TR Feels utterly betrayed Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Trevor Barnwell's keep net Posts: 4,014	It's the European Community Shield, simple as that. Nonetheless, it's always unpleasant watching opposing players run through your defence like a hot knife through butter.