Was Cantona the Best Striker to play under Ferguson

bazalini · 15th August 2011, 12:10

What you think?

Randall Flagg · 15th August 2011, 12:11

Yes, I think he was the most complete as well as the most influential

Hectic · 15th August 2011, 12:13

Should have just asked that from the start, as it would have been most people answers. If not, than Ruud.

Anyway, this was the list you were after:

Mark McGee
Brian McClair
Mark Hughes
Danny Wallace
Mark Robbins
Dion Dublin
Eric Cantona
Dwight Yorke
Andrew Cole
Teddy Sheringham
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Alan Smith
David Bellion
Wayne Rooney
Henrick Larrson
Berbatov
That Mexican lad
Welbeck
Lous Saha
Diego Forlan
Macheda

Talking Vulture · 15th August 2011, 12:13

I wouldn't call Cantona a striker to be honest. I'd go for Ruud.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:13

He was easily the most important and influential forward to play under Fergie.

Boss · 15th August 2011, 12:14

Most influential without question.

...but I believe Rooney is a better player.

Adzzz · 15th August 2011, 12:14

Out and out striker? Has to be Ruud for me.

dinners85 · 15th August 2011, 12:14

No he wasn't.

Not writing it all for a third time though but I'd say Ruud was the best.

Henrick Larsson was a fantastic striker - doesn't get credit due to playing against average Scottish opposition but in his prime he would have got goals anywhere.

Solius · 15th August 2011, 12:16

I can't think of anyone else that fucks up threads as regularly as Baz.

Randall Flagg · 15th August 2011, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

Most influential without question.

...but I believe Rooney is a better player.

Will disagree 100%. Cantona was a good bit better in almost every aspect than Rooney

Mr Anderson · 15th August 2011, 12:17

Jaysus this is like de ja vu..........

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talking Vulture

I wouldn't call Cantona a striker to be honest. I'd go for Ruud.

Well what if you're going of the basis that there are 4 areas on the pitch (which it seems is what Baz is doing). This being Goalkeepers, Defenders, Midfielders and Strikers. From that list, Cantona would be a striker.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Will disagree 100%. Cantona was a good bit better in all most every aspect than Rooney

Rooney is better in the air and quicker. But yeh I pretty much agree. Also, Cantona was very consistant which is something Rooney has struggled with.

Randall Flagg · 15th August 2011, 12:20

Cantona was better in the air than Rooney

Boss · 15th August 2011, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Will disagree 100%. Cantona was a good bit better in almost every aspect than Rooney

What aspects are these?

Rooney is quicker and stronger.

Rooney is the more consistent goal scorer.

Rooney is the better passer and has more vision.

Rooney is more flexible, as conveyed by his great performances at left wing/leftback during the 08/09 season.

Mr Anderson · 15th August 2011, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by cw1984

Rooney is better in the air and quicker. But yeh I pretty much agree. Also, Cantona was very consistant which is something Rooney has struggled with.

Cantona did join us later in his career. Rooney is only 25 or something?

I dont think Rooney can be judged now currently, along with any current squad memeber. Only when he retires/leaves, or when Fergie retires.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Cantona was better in the air than Rooney

You think so?

Fair enough. I disagree.

bazalini · 15th August 2011, 12:27

Whose John Hewitt?

Randall Flagg · 15th August 2011, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

What aspects are these?

Rooney is quicker and stronger.

Rooney is the more consistent goal scorer.

Rooney is the better passer and has more vision.

Rooney is more flexible, as conveyed by his great performances at left wing/leftback during the 08/09 season.

Cantona was stronger and a far better passer. His vision was as good as anyone I have seen play for Utd

bazalini · 15th August 2011, 12:30

Can we all agree that Andrew Cole is not in the top 8

Lance Uppercut · 15th August 2011, 12:31

Eric was stronger than Rooney and his vision may have been his best attribute.

Ruud for me, though.

Adzzz · 15th August 2011, 12:31

I'm fairly sure Cantona was a more creative player than Rooney.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

What aspects are these?

Rooney is quicker and stronger.

Rooney is the more consistent goal scorer.

Rooney is the better passer and has more vision.
Rooney is more flexible, as conveyed by his great performances at left wing/leftback during the 08/09 season.

Boss · 15th August 2011, 12:31

How can you be stronger than Wayne Rooney?

he's 200% manfat.

The Black Pearl · 15th August 2011, 12:32

Ruud for me, he's goal scoring record right from the off for us was quite remarkable.

charlenefan · 15th August 2011, 12:35

Ruud without a doubt, goal scoring machine

Randall Flagg · 15th August 2011, 12:36

Can we include Ronaldo?

I said on the deleted thread my answer would be

Most Gifted - Ronaldo
Most Complete - Cantona
Best Goal scorer - RVN

Cina · 15th August 2011, 12:38

Has to be RVN for me. Think he gets a little overlooked because he wasn't playing in a great Man Utd team.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Can we all agree that Andrew Cole is not in the top 8

Looking at that list, he'd be in my top 8.

Under rated.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

How can you be stronger than Wayne Rooney?

he's 200% manfat.

I suppose it would be harsh to criticise you too much given your age.

R0nald0 · 15th August 2011, 12:41

most influential, definitely Cantona.

Best striker, i'd go with Ruud

BAMSOLA · 15th August 2011, 12:43

If you're talking about the best striker as opposed to forward then RVN is the only answer to the question.

When however you talk about the best forward to play under SAF then thats a different story.

Striker10 · 15th August 2011, 12:44

No..

He was a very good player and clearly influential but was he better then Ole, Ruud, Rooney? Maybe certain characteristics but as a striker we've been very lucky and I don't think Cantona quite lived up to his potential, though he hit the heights. He scored vital goals and was an inspiration but he was not the best striker by any means.

bazalini · 15th August 2011, 12:45

Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?

Sparky_Hughes · 15th August 2011, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss

What aspects are these?

Rooney is quicker and stronger.

Rooney is the more consistent goal scorer.

Rooney is the better passer and has more vision.

Rooney is more flexible, as conveyed by his great performances at left wing/leftback during the 08/09 season.

Cantona is Stronger, a more consistant player, he doesnt go missing for a month or two...EVERY SEASON, Cantonas vision is far far superior to Rooney, granted Rooney is quicker and more flexible.

dinners85 · 15th August 2011, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?

Both stints - great player but still think Ruud was a better 'striker'.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker10

No..

He was a very good player and clearly influential but was he better then Ole, Ruud, Rooney? Maybe certain characteristics but as a striker we've been very lucky and I don't think Cantona quite lived up to his potential, though he hit the heights. He scored vital goals and was an inspiration but he was not the best striker by any means.

Olé? GTFO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?

Me. He was my hero.

He waved at me once. It made my day.

Sparky_Hughes · 15th August 2011, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?

Many Times, commited, fiery, powerful beast of a striker and the best volley Ive ever seen.

cw1984 · 15th August 2011, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky_Hughes

Cantona is Stronger, a more consistant player, he doesnt go missing for a month or two...EVERY SEASON, Cantonas vision is far far superior to Rooney, granted Rooney is quicker and more flexible.

I agree and Rooney is a fantastic player. Just shows how good Eric was.

Lance Uppercut · 15th August 2011, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazalini

Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?

I did, many times. Scorer of great goals, as opposed to great goal scorer. The volley against Oldham was legendary.

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15th August 2011, 12:11	#2 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	Yes, I think he was the most complete as well as the most influential

15th August 2011, 12:13	#3 (permalink)
Hectic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mike Phelan WILL kill you. Posts: 6,845	Should have just asked that from the start, as it would have been most people answers. If not, than Ruud. Anyway, this was the list you were after: Mark McGee Brian McClair Mark Hughes Danny Wallace Mark Robbins Dion Dublin Eric Cantona Dwight Yorke Andrew Cole Teddy Sheringham Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Ruud Van Nistelrooy Alan Smith David Bellion Wayne Rooney Henrick Larrson Berbatov That Mexican lad Welbeck Lous Saha Diego Forlan Macheda

15th August 2011, 12:13	#4 (permalink)
Talking Vulture Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,469	I wouldn't call Cantona a striker to be honest. I'd go for Ruud.

15th August 2011, 12:13	#5 (permalink)
cw1984 Compulsive wanker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guiding Cardiff to the promised land just so I can wipe that smug fucking grin of Cider's face. Posts: 24,006	He was easily the most important and influential forward to play under Fergie.

15th August 2011, 12:14	#6 (permalink)
Boss Melodramatic, attention seeking space-attacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I left you with enough memories to resurrect me with Posts: 24,283	Most influential without question. ...but I believe Rooney is a better player.

15th August 2011, 12:14	#7 (permalink)
Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Don't Put My Swag on a Pedestal, I'll leave you like Owen Hargreaves at a Medical, passing me ain't credible Posts: 21,983	Out and out striker? Has to be Ruud for me.

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dinners85 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth (Scotland) previously Warrington Posts: 653	No he wasn't. Not writing it all for a third time though but I'd say Ruud was the best. Henrick Larsson was a fantastic striker - doesn't get credit due to playing against average Scottish opposition but in his prime he would have got goals anywhere.

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Solius Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fucker shits Posts: 40,586	I can't think of anyone else that fucks up threads as regularly as Baz.

15th August 2011, 12:17	#11 (permalink)
Mr Anderson First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: (Ireland), Newcastle United: SM Caf League Posts: 7,192	Jaysus this is like de ja vu..........

15th August 2011, 12:20	#14 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	Cantona was better in the air than Rooney

15th August 2011, 12:27	#18 (permalink)
bazalini Join Date: May 2000 Location: RIP "The General" Posts: 21,874	Whose John Hewitt?

15th August 2011, 12:30	#20 (permalink)
bazalini Join Date: May 2000 Location: RIP "The General" Posts: 21,874	Can we all agree that Andrew Cole is not in the top 8

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Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	Eric was stronger than Rooney and his vision may have been his best attribute. Ruud for me, though.

15th August 2011, 12:31	#22 (permalink)
Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Don't Put My Swag on a Pedestal, I'll leave you like Owen Hargreaves at a Medical, passing me ain't credible Posts: 21,983	I'm fairly sure Cantona was a more creative player than Rooney.

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Boss Melodramatic, attention seeking space-attacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I left you with enough memories to resurrect me with Posts: 24,283	How can you be stronger than Wayne Rooney? he's 200% manfat.

15th August 2011, 12:32	#25 (permalink)
The Black Pearl ooh aah Paul McGrath Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In my John Deere Posts: 3,290	Ruud for me, he's goal scoring record right from the off for us was quite remarkable.

15th August 2011, 12:35	#26 (permalink)
charlenefan First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,348	Ruud without a doubt, goal scoring machine

15th August 2011, 12:36	#27 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	Can we include Ronaldo? I said on the deleted thread my answer would be Most Gifted - Ronaldo Most Complete - Cantona Best Goal scorer - RVN

15th August 2011, 12:38	#28 (permalink)
Cina I hate everything Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 13,939	Has to be RVN for me. Think he gets a little overlooked because he wasn't playing in a great Man Utd team.

15th August 2011, 12:41	#31 (permalink)
R0nald0 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Under a rug on top of a mountain under the stars. Posts: 538	most influential, definitely Cantona. Best striker, i'd go with Ruud

15th August 2011, 12:43	#32 (permalink)
BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: You're too old fat man, your tts are too big, get the f*k off my porch!! Posts: 7,495	If you're talking about the best striker as opposed to forward then RVN is the only answer to the question. When however you talk about the best forward to play under SAF then thats a different story.

15th August 2011, 12:44	#33 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 13,348	No.. He was a very good player and clearly influential but was he better then Ole, Ruud, Rooney? Maybe certain characteristics but as a striker we've been very lucky and I don't think Cantona quite lived up to his potential, though he hit the heights. He scored vital goals and was an inspiration but he was not the best striker by any means.

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bazalini Join Date: May 2000 Location: RIP "The General" Posts: 21,874	Can I ask a Question - How many of you saw Mark Hughes play football for Man Utd?