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Baby Faced Assassin · 20th March 2011, 14:34

Had a feeling we could have gotten 100 corners yesterday and yet fail to get a shot on target.

But I would like to know what the actual stats were for yesterday. I don't remember us getting a single shot on target from what felt like a zillion corners.

Silva · 20th March 2011, 14:38

We're just not very good at attacking set pieces.

Solius · 20th March 2011, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Faced Assassin

Had a feeling we could have gotten 100 corners yesterday and yet fail to get a shot on target.

But I would like to know what the actual stats were for tomorrow. I don't remember us getting a single shot on target from what felt like a zillion corners.

It hasn't happened yet.

wr8_utd · 20th March 2011, 14:44

More than 50% of our corners don't even get past the 1st man. We're not really very good at corners and free kicks

SteveJ · 20th March 2011, 14:48

I'm not sure that this is purely a United problem - the quality of corner kicks, free kicks etc seems to have gone downhill across the board recently...it's rare to see a really superb set-piece these days.

Cue loads of Youtube vids of stellar set-pieces...

Godfather · 20th March 2011, 14:57

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Originally Posted by wr8_utd

More than 50% of our corners don't even get past the 1st man. We're not really very good at corners and free kicks

Plus we don't have many that are very good at headers.

Only Vidic and Smalling are good headers of the ball currently. Ronaldo was excellent at it.

RK · 2nd April 2011, 13:47

Why isn't Gibson taking them today?

Snow · 2nd April 2011, 13:50

Does is even matter? We should just try to play it short. It's always dangerous. 2vs2 on the flank with the ball swinging towards the goal and the keeper can't come out because of player congestion. Not that Green is any good at catching those kind of balls.

Just a though.

Maciek · 2nd April 2011, 14:58

16-0.

gbgary · 2nd April 2011, 15:00

smalling put one on target.

Aaron · 2nd April 2011, 15:01

Yeah, I did think that. We're not the tallest of teams so perhaps Smalling and Vidic were the only options. We are quite poor at corners. I think the delivery improved when Valencia took them second half.

kouroux · 2nd April 2011, 15:02

Our new signing will take care of it

JezChan · 2nd April 2011, 15:02

Unfortunately we are completely rubbish at them. I agree with the suggestion we should play most of them short - especially with Valencia back in the side who is just a beast on the edge of the area.

Lynk · 2nd April 2011, 15:04

Valencia looked better taking them than Giggs.

Justin · 2nd April 2011, 15:06

I just had to laugh at the one where we took it short and ended up with Giggs crossing with his right foot. Surely we can do better than that.

MadDogg · 2nd April 2011, 15:24

I wish Gibson would take them more often. That match last season (in the FA or Carling Cup I think) where he took them all match was the best corner taking we've had since Becks. The occasional time he's taken one since then he's been a bit hit and miss, but I wish we'd give him more of a chance when he's on the field.

Sylar · 3rd April 2011, 01:10

Wasnt our first on target when Smalling had a header and it was saved?

championo · 3rd April 2011, 01:15

that side of the foot corner giggs was taking was ridiculous. It just looked hopeless to even leave his foot.

girish · 3rd April 2011, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Wasnt our first on target when Smalling had a header and it was saved?

I thinkt it was going towards the bar.

KGBhoy · 17th April 2011, 16:46

Is there some kind of record for going x corners without scoring from one?

Every other time from the corner we don't even clear the first defender. And Nani, Valencia and Giggs are all guilty of that. Have we scored once from a corner this season?

Feeky_Magee · 17th April 2011, 16:55

Vidic v Everton, Hernández v WBA, Berba v Liverpool and Brum.

Starkie_1 · 17th April 2011, 17:32

We were absolutely pathetic at defending the short corners yesterday, Park twice fell asleep within the space of 5minutes.

madhed · 17th April 2011, 17:49

The first leg against Chelsea I remember watchin Giggsy trying those dodgy little short corners that fizzled out on at least 4 occasions. Probli a training ground routine but after seeing it fall flat on numerous occasions it does get frustrating.

Walrus · 17th April 2011, 19:16

Giggs shouldnt be taking our corners any more i would say.

Enigma_87 · 17th April 2011, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus

Giggs shouldnt be taking our corners any more i would say.

Who should? Nani is crap at it(strange as he was pretty great in his first season taking them), Valencia is not that better anyway, Carrick takes good ones and crap ones, Anderson don't even get me started.

Only leaves Gibson who doesn't start that lot and Rooney...

Walrus · 17th April 2011, 20:29

I dont think Nani's corners are that bad.

Either way, Giggs either hits the first man or tries to be clever and play it short which inevitably ends in failure.

manusteve · 17th April 2011, 20:41

Vidic and Smalling are decent at corners, and O'Shea ain't bad either. However, the delivery is consistently appalling. Is it beyond any player to whip the ball in with pace???
Giggs has a habit of floating the corner in, while Nani seems incapable of beating the first man. It's irritating.

Doevle · 17th April 2011, 20:51

Rooney should take them.

Feeky_Magee · 17th April 2011, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Faced Assassin

Had a feeling we could have gotten 100 corners yesterday and yet fail to get a shot on target.

But I would like to know what the actual stats were for yesterday. I don't remember us getting a single shot on target from what felt like a zillion corners.

Even if we scored 100 goals our corner-taker selection would have been wrong.

Baby Faced Assassin · 17th April 2011, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus

I dont think Nani's corners are that bad.

Either way, Giggs either hits the first man or tries to be clever and play it short which inevitably ends in failure.

Nano hardly ever beats the first defender and when he does he usually beats the last defender as well. I am not saying that's a bad thing, but we should play to our strengths then. Keep a man ahead of the first defender and an other man behind the last defender with chicha sandwiched between the keeper and a defender in the middle.

Sir A1ex · 17th April 2011, 21:18

United's corners are a running joke in our household - ironic cheers every time we win one.
If I was a defender playing against United I'd just smack it out for a corner at every opportunity.

KGBhoy · 17th April 2011, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus

I dont think Nani's corners are that bad.

Either way, Giggs either hits the first man or tries to be clever and play it short which inevitably ends in failure.

Really? Look at them closer. Doesn't get past the first defender 9 out of 10 times.

Richter · 17th April 2011, 21:24

Worst corners in the world after Barca perhaps.

Amir · 17th April 2011, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1Dan

If I was a defender playing against United I'd just smack it out for a corner at every opportunity.

At times in the first 30 minutes yesterday I actually felt this is what City were doing.

Aaron · 17th April 2011, 21:41

Rooney's quite good at taking corners.

Maciek · 17th April 2011, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feeky_Magee

Vidic v Everton, Hernández v WBA, Berba v Liverpool and Brum.

Are those our only goals this season after corners? We've had 198 so far... (five teams - Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Villa and Wolves got more)

Enigma_87 · 18th April 2011, 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciek

Are those our only goals this season after corners? We've had 198 so far... (five teams - Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Villa and Wolves got more)

hardly surprising isn't it?

ZIDANE · 18th April 2011, 01:56

We need Ronaldo back, he was good at heading. It'd gloss over everything else as well.

Baby Faced Assassin · 19th April 2011, 23:00

We have even stopped trying, haven't we?

Allforone · 19th April 2011, 23:01

We've become an utter embarrassment at them, i vote we now award goal kicks to the opposition to save face and inevitable frustration.

20th March 2011, 14:34	#1 (permalink)
Baby Faced Assassin Pastor of Muppets Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Offside Posts: 4,502	Corners Had a feeling we could have gotten 100 corners yesterday and yet fail to get a shot on target. But I would like to know what the actual stats were for yesterday. I don't remember us getting a single shot on target from what felt like a zillion corners.

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20th March 2011, 14:38	#2 (permalink)
Silva Sticky tip Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Its best if I don't tell you. Posts: 6,669	We're just not very good at attacking set pieces.

20th March 2011, 14:44	#4 (permalink)
wr8_utd 1st wr8_muppetry Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 25,310	More than 50% of our corners don't even get past the 1st man. We're not really very good at corners and free kicks

20th March 2011, 14:48	#5 (permalink)
SteveJ Nicest fella on the Caf and Newbie of the Year 2011 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Divided Kingdom Posts: 11,926	I'm not sure that this is purely a United problem - the quality of corner kicks, free kicks etc seems to have gone downhill across the board recently...it's rare to see a really superb set-piece these days. Cue loads of Youtube vids of stellar set-pieces...

2nd April 2011, 13:47	#7 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13,933	Why isn't Gibson taking them today?

2nd April 2011, 13:50	#8 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 12,314	Does is even matter? We should just try to play it short. It's always dangerous. 2vs2 on the flank with the ball swinging towards the goal and the keeper can't come out because of player congestion. Not that Green is any good at catching those kind of balls. Just a though.

2nd April 2011, 14:58	#9 (permalink)
Maciek Spit and Polish Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 'Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field. It's a fact, right? And it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow and not as good as your own cow.' Posts: 9,135	16-0.

2nd April 2011, 15:00	#10 (permalink)
gbgary First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: dallas Posts: 8,067	smalling put one on target.

2nd April 2011, 15:01	#11 (permalink)
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sunny side up Posts: 5,075	Yeah, I did think that. We're not the tallest of teams so perhaps Smalling and Vidic were the only options. We are quite poor at corners. I think the delivery improved when Valencia took them second half.

2nd April 2011, 15:02	#12 (permalink)
kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 25,548	Our new signing will take care of it

2nd April 2011, 15:02	#13 (permalink)
JezChan Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,152	Unfortunately we are completely rubbish at them. I agree with the suggestion we should play most of them short - especially with Valencia back in the side who is just a beast on the edge of the area.

2nd April 2011, 15:04	#14 (permalink)
Lynk First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: "Liverpool couldn't win the league with Torres up front, Gerrard behind and Mascherano and Alonso in midfield. They aren't gonna win it with this shower of shit. " - Peterstorey Posts: 5,977	Valencia looked better taking them than Giggs.

2nd April 2011, 15:06	#15 (permalink)
Justin First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 25,109	I just had to laugh at the one where we took it short and ended up with Giggs crossing with his right foot. Surely we can do better than that.

2nd April 2011, 15:24	#16 (permalink)
MadDogg First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: “Manchester United never lose, they just run out of time” Posts: 6,869	I wish Gibson would take them more often. That match last season (in the FA or Carling Cup I think) where he took them all match was the best corner taking we've had since Becks. The occasional time he's taken one since then he's been a bit hit and miss, but I wish we'd give him more of a chance when he's on the field.

3rd April 2011, 01:10	#17 (permalink)
Sylar Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,818	Wasnt our first on target when Smalling had a header and it was saved?

3rd April 2011, 01:15	#18 (permalink)
championo Top Stalker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: From Brazil but in School in the States Posts: 5,089	that side of the foot corner giggs was taking was ridiculous. It just looked hopeless to even leave his foot.

17th April 2011, 16:46	#20 (permalink)
KGBhoy Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 837	Is there some kind of record for going x corners without scoring from one? Every other time from the corner we don't even clear the first defender. And Nani, Valencia and Giggs are all guilty of that. Have we scored once from a corner this season?

17th April 2011, 16:55	#21 (permalink)
Feeky_Magee First Team Sub Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: “They are the original colours of Manchester United and the fans wear them because they love this club. They have their reasons for doing it and we don’t think that they’re crazy. They’d like things to change.” Posts: 6,149	Vidic v Everton, Hernández v WBA, Berba v Liverpool and Brum.

17th April 2011, 17:32	#22 (permalink)
Starkie_1 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Failing a Jib anywhere, anyhow Posts: 2,056	We were absolutely pathetic at defending the short corners yesterday, Park twice fell asleep within the space of 5minutes.

17th April 2011, 17:49	#23 (permalink)
madhed Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Winner(By default) of the Newbies Stock exchange 2010... Posts: 3,861	The first leg against Chelsea I remember watchin Giggsy trying those dodgy little short corners that fizzled out on at least 4 occasions. Probli a training ground routine but after seeing it fall flat on numerous occasions it does get frustrating.

17th April 2011, 19:16	#24 (permalink)
Walrus Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,195	Giggs shouldnt be taking our corners any more i would say.

17th April 2011, 20:29	#26 (permalink)
Walrus Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,195	I dont think Nani's corners are that bad. Either way, Giggs either hits the first man or tries to be clever and play it short which inevitably ends in failure.

17th April 2011, 20:41	#27 (permalink)
manusteve Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,023	Vidic and Smalling are decent at corners, and O'Shea ain't bad either. However, the delivery is consistently appalling. Is it beyond any player to whip the ball in with pace??? Giggs has a habit of floating the corner in, while Nani seems incapable of beating the first man. It's irritating.

17th April 2011, 20:51	#28 (permalink)
Doevle First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6,867	Rooney should take them.

17th April 2011, 21:18	#31 (permalink)
Sir A1ex First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Where the goals come from. Posts: 19,907	United's corners are a running joke in our household - ironic cheers every time we win one. If I was a defender playing against United I'd just smack it out for a corner at every opportunity.

17th April 2011, 21:24	#33 (permalink)
Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 29,198	Worst corners in the world after Barca perhaps.

17th April 2011, 21:41	#35 (permalink)
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sunny side up Posts: 5,075	Rooney's quite good at taking corners.

18th April 2011, 01:56	#38 (permalink)
ZIDANE First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: "..undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation." Zizou on Scholes Posts: 5,911	We need Ronaldo back, he was good at heading. It'd gloss over everything else as well.

19th April 2011, 23:00	#39 (permalink)
Baby Faced Assassin Pastor of Muppets Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Offside Posts: 4,502	We have even stopped trying, haven't we?

19th April 2011, 23:01	#40 (permalink)
Allforone First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United could spend £85million on David De Gea, Phil Jones, Ashley Young and Wesley Sneijder. Quote: Liverpool spent £85million on Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing. Posts: 11,646	We've become an utter embarrassment at them, i vote we now award goal kicks to the opposition to save face and inevitable frustration.