Danny Welbeck

KM · 31st July 2011, 01:07

Since that other thread(as Top said) was for Danny's loan to Sunderland, I'm making a new thread.

So what's the expectations of him this season, so far has looked very good in the pre-season and Fergie has already confirmed that he isn't gonna go on loan this season.

The way he is playing personally I can't see him being 5th choice striker for much time longer.

Ivor Ballokov · 31st July 2011, 01:09

He was good at sunderland

pocco · 31st July 2011, 01:10

He'll move ahead of all our strikers, apart from Rooney, in the pecking order this season. I've been saying this for a while and I'm chuffed to bits at how well he's doing this preseason. Him and Rooney will emulate the Rooney-Saha partnership, with which we played our best attacking football in a long time.

Boss · 31st July 2011, 01:12

Some of you might be jumping the gun here.

Walrus · 31st July 2011, 01:13

Looks an excellent prospect. Not trying to judge too early but my concern from tonights game is that he and Rooney seem to be making the exact same runs and movements etc, meaning they both end up in the same place.

Again, I know thats only from 45 minutes of one game, and from what ive seen this summer I think Welbeck will definitely have an impact this season - although with Hernandez, Rooney, Berbatov and Owen, his matchtime will probably still be somewhat limited.

Mick1991 · 31st July 2011, 01:16

He's been great tonight. He's very athletic but has got the technique to match.

Rowem · 31st July 2011, 01:26

He's great. Provides a different option and will legitimately compete with Berbs and Hernandez.

Strictly in terms of team balance, if we were to line up in a 442 against a strong opposition then Rooney-Welbeck would be our most suitable strikeforce.

lem8sh · 31st July 2011, 01:28

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Originally Posted by pocco

He'll move ahead of all our strikers, apart from Rooney, in the pecking order this season. I've been saying this for a while and I'm chuffed to bits at how well he's doing this preseason. Him and Rooney will emulate the Rooney-Saha partnership, with which we played our best attacking football in a long time.

Getting a bit carried away I think

UnitedBoy · 31st July 2011, 01:36

black ronaldo.

Pat_Mustard · 31st July 2011, 01:43

He's looked terrific so far tonight. Can't see him displacing Hernandez in the pecking order next season but he'll play his part. We've got a superb group of strikers going into the new season.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 01:44

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Originally Posted by lem8sh

Getting a bit carried away I think

I don't think I am. It's not as though I've formed this opinion based on this game. I've thought he was the dogs bollocks even when many used to say he wouldnt make it here before his PNE loan. He's a better allround player than Hernandez and is far more suitable to our play than Berbatov.

Anyway, let's wait and see.

datura · 31st July 2011, 01:55

He needs to score more goals to displace those ahead of him.

Valentino · 31st July 2011, 01:55

every woman that watched the game tonight is probably dreaming of having his babies right now

ricky-romeo · 31st July 2011, 02:03

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Originally Posted by Valentino

every woman that watched the game tonight is probably dreaming of having his babies right now

anyway nice to see him doing well. we all know he got the potential to be a top class forward.

Wowi · 31st July 2011, 02:12

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Originally Posted by Valentino

every woman that watched the game tonight is probably dreaming of having his babies right now

Not only women really. I want them too.

Hal9000 · 31st July 2011, 02:13

He was great at Sunderland and has replicated that so far from Pre Season, shown far more than our Diouf and Macheda on this tour.

No offence to Owen or Berbatov, i would of liked to see one of them go, just so Welbeck can get more games, as thats what he needs. He's already a talent, he just needs to move up a level now.

His passing and movement were fantastic tonight i thought.

Sir Matt · 31st July 2011, 02:13

I hope he'll push Berbatov for the third spot behind Rooney and Hernandez. He'll be great cover.

Alwyn · 31st July 2011, 02:14

His control for his chance in the second half was fantastically well improvised, and his 1 touch flicks were intuitive, as per.

I really, really like Welbeck.

BAMSOLA · 31st July 2011, 02:17

He's Ready to contribute for us this season I have no doubt about that.

I've always said he has everything in his locker to become a very special player, potentialy worldclass even and thats not just based on tonight it's based on his U21 performances, his time at sunderland and his current age and technical ability.

Talk of him displacing our main strikers this season is premature, but he has it in him to play a big part with the striker rotation that we will probably be employing next season. I'm over the moon we look like keeping him at OT this seeason.

mufcwarm92 · 31st July 2011, 02:17

We're worryingly well stocked up front for this season. Rooney, Chicharito, Berbatov, Welbeck, Owen, Macheda. I expect Diouf to leave, purely because he won't get game time ahead of that lot. Macheda will hopefully be loaned in the Premier League somewhere, it'll do him good.

SharkyMcShark · 31st July 2011, 02:18

That dragged flick to break free of the Barca defence was amazing.

TuTuHimm · 31st July 2011, 02:20

Been very impressed by him, matured a lot. He'll be challenging Owen for the fourth forward spot, yet they are very different players.

Ole's_toe_poke · 31st July 2011, 02:41

He doesn't look like a man who wants to be loaned. He's been brilliant in preseason thus far.

#07 · 31st July 2011, 02:46

Welbeck was really good tonight just a pity he couldn't bury his 1 on 1 with Valdes cos he deserved a goal. I know it was only a friendly but he certainly showed what he was about tonight and I really feel this could be a break out season for some of the youngsters who've gone on loan and have come back ready to do the business. Wouldn't have any issues with seeing Welbeck's name on the teamsheet next to one of our established forwards next year.

Heffo · 31st July 2011, 02:49

If he starts scoring more goals I think he'd get in the team ahead of Berbatov and Hernandez no problem. However the fact is as of yet he doesn't score a huge amount while Hernandez can stop scoring.

The reason I made the first point is that in my opinion he suits United's style so well. He keeps up the tempo on counters and I like the way when he drops back he has the ability to play the ball to the right man and then spin off and make a run or he has the ability to turn his man by himself. He suits United's style more than Berbatov and in terms of all round game he is better than Hernandez. If he finds goals I'm convinced he'll be a star.

Red Dreams · 31st July 2011, 02:49

whisper it..

think he just may be ahead of berba come this season.

Raven Blade · 31st July 2011, 02:52

He looks so powerful, fast and tricky as a forward. He must be a nightmare for defences to deal with because they can't anticipate what he will do next. I believed he had the potential to be a first teamer and he sure does look like that now. What he needs to find is that clinical finishing in front of goal and Fergie will have a selection headache. Our striking options are looking very healthy this year and we should be glad for that.

SharkyMcShark · 31st July 2011, 02:57

I've always been impressed by his first touch but the way over the last season he's married with with reading of the game and power makes me feel like we've got a truly special player now (as opposed to potentially special)

Bear Attack · 31st July 2011, 02:57

He's damn intelligent too. We've got a gem on our hands.

Alwyn · 31st July 2011, 02:59

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

I've always been impressed by his first touch but the way over the last season he's married with with reading of the game and power makes me feel like we've got a truly special player now (as opposed to potentially special)

Yeah, he's always 1 step ahead with his first touch. He almost always builds his next move around the direction he controls the ball in which, at pace, is extremely effective.

BAMSOLA · 31st July 2011, 02:59

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Originally Posted by Red Dreams

whisper it..

think he just may be ahead of berba come this season.

I also get just a slight feeling that with Berba's contract situation and the noises of him leaving this summer as well as being left out of the squad for the CL final that his appearances for us this season might be limited.

gbgary · 31st July 2011, 04:39

a bigger, stronger, more experienced welbeck. much better.

Richter · 31st July 2011, 05:02

Oozes class but like others have said, if he wants to be a United player he must be more clinical.

Escobar · 31st July 2011, 08:21

We have so many options upfrobt its unreal. He will fight for the 4th spot but i said before pre season i would prefer letting owen go and put Welbeck in

Top · 31st July 2011, 10:04

He's going to be a star. His first touch last night was Berba-like.

In a way it's a shame we have so many great strikers - I want to see them all play regularly.

puNANI · 31st July 2011, 10:15

He was great. I thought he would be a good player for us because I watched him regurlarly when he played for Sunderland but he looks even better now. Good touch, strength, vision, pace, link up and decent finishing(from what I've seen in the past)

WireRed · 31st July 2011, 10:25

He'll overtake Berba and Owen as the next in line behind Rooney-Hernandez, and who knows, with Hernandez' lack of pre-season and tough summer along with teams being more aware of his ability, he may just find the new season a bit tougher going than last which would open the door for Danny. I found the mooted prospect of loaning him back out pointless and unrewarding for his contribution at Sunderland last season, I'm glad Fergie sees it the same way and I can only see him getting better for being here and getting the chances I think Fergie will always give a young player showing the form Welbeck has and with the talent he's got.

BAMSOLA · 31st July 2011, 10:30

I think there is a lot more hope for him getting games this season than some realise due to his versatility. He played as lead striker for some of yesterdays game, but he can also play as trequrtista or Inside forward on either flank and alot of people missed it but he actually also played as a CM alongside Tom for about 10-20mins against MLS allstars.

Don't get me wrong i'm not suggesting that we play him as a CM(although in fairness he did a pretty good job there albeilt against average oposition) I do however think that his ability toplay/switch to any attacking position in a 4-2-3-1 formation could prove to be invaluable for us this season.

WireRed · 31st July 2011, 10:50

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Originally Posted by BAMSOLA

I think there is a lot more hope for him getting games this season than some realise due to his versatility. He played as lead striker for some of yesterdays game, but he can also play as trequrtista or Inside forward on either flank and alot of people missed it but he actually also played as a CM alongside Tom for about 10-20mins against MLS allstars.

Don't get me wrong i'm not suggesting that we play him as a CM(although in fairness he did a pretty good job there albeilt against average oposition) I do however think that his ability toplay/switch to any attacking position in a 4-2-3-1 formation could prove to be invaluable for us this season.

Definately. The majority of his time at Sunderland was spent on the left to accomodate Bent and Gyan(sadly for Danny he got injured pretty much the moment Bent left)and he was putting in some great performances in a relatively unfamiliar role, as soon as they partnered him with Gyan for a few weeks when Bent was injured, it coincided with their best spell of form during last season including the 0-3 at Chelsea.

Taking into consideration the hectic summer Hernandez has had and the need for Giggs to become more or less a permanent CM, there is definately game time to be had for Welbeck this coming season and if he continues to develop as he is, he'll no doubt become a big player this season IMO.

mufcwarm92 · 31st July 2011, 10:55

It's great to have a forward player coming through the ranks, that hasn't happened for ages and it would be great for a local lad like Welbeck to break the duck. I agree that he should get good game time with his versatility and I'm looking forward to seeing him progress.

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KM Coach Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 24,180	Danny Welbeck Since that other thread(as Top said) was for Danny's loan to Sunderland, I'm making a new thread. So what's the expectations of him this season, so far has looked very good in the pre-season and Fergie has already confirmed that he isn't gonna go on loan this season. The way he is playing personally I can't see him being 5th choice striker for much time longer. Last edited by Brwned; 2nd September 2012 at 19:07.

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31st July 2011, 01:09	#2 (permalink)
Ivor Ballokov First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: @arrowsleeper Posts: 7,542	He was good at sunderland

31st July 2011, 01:10	#3 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Keep a clean shit tomorrow, United is my final bus stop Posts: 5,469	He'll move ahead of all our strikers, apart from Rooney, in the pecking order this season. I've been saying this for a while and I'm chuffed to bits at how well he's doing this preseason. Him and Rooney will emulate the Rooney-Saha partnership, with which we played our best attacking football in a long time.

31st July 2011, 01:12	#4 (permalink)
Boss Melodramatic, attention seeking space-attacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I left you with enough memories to resurrect me with Posts: 24,076	Some of you might be jumping the gun here.

31st July 2011, 01:13	#5 (permalink)
Walrus Oppressed White Male Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,579	Looks an excellent prospect. Not trying to judge too early but my concern from tonights game is that he and Rooney seem to be making the exact same runs and movements etc, meaning they both end up in the same place. Again, I know thats only from 45 minutes of one game, and from what ive seen this summer I think Welbeck will definitely have an impact this season - although with Hernandez, Rooney, Berbatov and Owen, his matchtime will probably still be somewhat limited.

31st July 2011, 01:16	#6 (permalink)
Mick1991 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,211	He's been great tonight. He's very athletic but has got the technique to match.

31st July 2011, 01:26	#7 (permalink)
Rowem First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,020	He's great. Provides a different option and will legitimately compete with Berbs and Hernandez. Strictly in terms of team balance, if we were to line up in a 442 against a strong opposition then Rooney-Welbeck would be our most suitable strikeforce.

31st July 2011, 01:36	#9 (permalink)
UnitedBoy Redcafe Yahoo Pool champion 2007 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Wales!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 4,951	black ronaldo.

31st July 2011, 01:43	#10 (permalink)
Pat_Mustard Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs. Posts: 4,411	He's looked terrific so far tonight. Can't see him displacing Hernandez in the pecking order next season but he'll play his part. We've got a superb group of strikers going into the new season.

31st July 2011, 01:55	#12 (permalink)
datura First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so it goes Posts: 9,115	He needs to score more goals to displace those ahead of him.

31st July 2011, 01:55	#13 (permalink)
Valentino Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,903	every woman that watched the game tonight is probably dreaming of having his babies right now

31st July 2011, 02:13	#16 (permalink)
Hal9000 Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,191	He was great at Sunderland and has replicated that so far from Pre Season, shown far more than our Diouf and Macheda on this tour. No offence to Owen or Berbatov, i would of liked to see one of them go, just so Welbeck can get more games, as thats what he needs. He's already a talent, he just needs to move up a level now. His passing and movement were fantastic tonight i thought.

31st July 2011, 02:13	#17 (permalink)
Sir Matt First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: LUHG Posts: 11,376	I hope he'll push Berbatov for the third spot behind Rooney and Hernandez. He'll be great cover.

31st July 2011, 02:14	#18 (permalink)
Alwyn Got rid of his pee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: -) Posts: 11,630	His control for his chance in the second half was fantastically well improvised, and his 1 touch flicks were intuitive, as per. I really, really like Welbeck.

31st July 2011, 02:17	#19 (permalink)
BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: There > . Posts: 8,193	He's Ready to contribute for us this season I have no doubt about that. I've always said he has everything in his locker to become a very special player, potentialy worldclass even and thats not just based on tonight it's based on his U21 performances, his time at sunderland and his current age and technical ability. Talk of him displacing our main strikers this season is premature, but he has it in him to play a big part with the striker rotation that we will probably be employing next season. I'm over the moon we look like keeping him at OT this seeason.

31st July 2011, 02:17	#20 (permalink)
mufcwarm92 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: W3103 Posts: 3,324	We're worryingly well stocked up front for this season. Rooney, Chicharito, Berbatov, Welbeck, Owen, Macheda. I expect Diouf to leave, purely because he won't get game time ahead of that lot. Macheda will hopefully be loaned in the Premier League somewhere, it'll do him good.

31st July 2011, 02:18	#21 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark Horrified Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 19,960	That dragged flick to break free of the Barca defence was amazing.

31st July 2011, 02:20	#22 (permalink)
TuTuHimm Can definitely write definitely correctly Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Probably Posts: 2,847	Been very impressed by him, matured a lot. He'll be challenging Owen for the fourth forward spot, yet they are very different players.

31st July 2011, 02:41	#23 (permalink)
Ole's_toe_poke First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 22,975	He doesn't look like a man who wants to be loaned. He's been brilliant in preseason thus far.

31st July 2011, 02:46	#24 (permalink)
#07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,824	Welbeck was really good tonight just a pity he couldn't bury his 1 on 1 with Valdes cos he deserved a goal. I know it was only a friendly but he certainly showed what he was about tonight and I really feel this could be a break out season for some of the youngsters who've gone on loan and have come back ready to do the business. Wouldn't have any issues with seeing Welbeck's name on the teamsheet next to one of our established forwards next year.

31st July 2011, 02:49	#25 (permalink)
Heffo Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 965	If he starts scoring more goals I think he'd get in the team ahead of Berbatov and Hernandez no problem. However the fact is as of yet he doesn't score a huge amount while Hernandez can stop scoring. The reason I made the first point is that in my opinion he suits United's style so well. He keeps up the tempo on counters and I like the way when he drops back he has the ability to play the ball to the right man and then spin off and make a run or he has the ability to turn his man by himself. He suits United's style more than Berbatov and in terms of all round game he is better than Hernandez. If he finds goals I'm convinced he'll be a star.

31st July 2011, 02:49	#26 (permalink)
Red Dreams First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 20 I 13 Posts: 28,218	whisper it.. think he just may be ahead of berba come this season.

31st July 2011, 02:52	#27 (permalink)
Raven Blade Dull Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Why do it the easy way? Do it the United way! Posts: 31,972	He looks so powerful, fast and tricky as a forward. He must be a nightmare for defences to deal with because they can't anticipate what he will do next. I believed he had the potential to be a first teamer and he sure does look like that now. What he needs to find is that clinical finishing in front of goal and Fergie will have a selection headache. Our striking options are looking very healthy this year and we should be glad for that.

31st July 2011, 02:57	#28 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark Horrified Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 19,960	I've always been impressed by his first touch but the way over the last season he's married with with reading of the game and power makes me feel like we've got a truly special player now (as opposed to potentially special)

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Bear Attack Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 3,436	He's damn intelligent too. We've got a gem on our hands.

31st July 2011, 04:39	#32 (permalink)
gbgary First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: dallas Posts: 8,988	a bigger, stronger, more experienced welbeck. much better.

31st July 2011, 05:02	#33 (permalink)
Richter Hairy big footed Swede Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 29,495	Oozes class but like others have said, if he wants to be a United player he must be more clinical.

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Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: "Collar turned up, back straight, chest stuck out, he glided into the arena as if he owned the fucking place" Posts: 17,558	We have so many options upfrobt its unreal. He will fight for the 4th spot but i said before pre season i would prefer letting owen go and put Welbeck in

31st July 2011, 10:04	#35 (permalink)
Top Admin Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 8,346	He's going to be a star. His first touch last night was Berba-like. In a way it's a shame we have so many great strikers - I want to see them all play regularly.

31st July 2011, 10:15	#36 (permalink)
puNANI Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Down Under, pun intended. Posts: 2,377	He was great. I thought he would be a good player for us because I watched him regurlarly when he played for Sunderland but he looks even better now. Good touch, strength, vision, pace, link up and decent finishing(from what I've seen in the past)

31st July 2011, 10:25	#37 (permalink)
WireRed First Team Sub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: In a champagne supernova Posts: 5,225	He'll overtake Berba and Owen as the next in line behind Rooney-Hernandez, and who knows, with Hernandez' lack of pre-season and tough summer along with teams being more aware of his ability, he may just find the new season a bit tougher going than last which would open the door for Danny. I found the mooted prospect of loaning him back out pointless and unrewarding for his contribution at Sunderland last season, I'm glad Fergie sees it the same way and I can only see him getting better for being here and getting the chances I think Fergie will always give a young player showing the form Welbeck has and with the talent he's got.