Danny Welbeck

Hellboy · 31st July 2011, 11:25

Very versatile and very good, I hope a couple of strikers are loaned/sold to accommodate him.

Adzzz · 31st July 2011, 12:40

I have to say, Welbeck is an incredibly gifted footballer. I expect him to make it at United, possibly in a big way.

Brwned · 31st July 2011, 13:20

He's no Sturridge though.

FortBoyard · 31st July 2011, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Brwned

He's no Sturridge though.

Do you mean that seriously? Or is it a parody of a previous opinion in the thread, I haven't read it.

Twigginater · 31st July 2011, 13:25

He was fucking quality last night. Very impressive.

cw1984 · 31st July 2011, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Brwned

He's no Sturridge though.

I know you're only joking but it's an inevitable comparison that will run and run. I've always said I'd take Welbeck over Sturridge, even when Sturridge was the 1 banging the goals in.

Sturridge plays for himself. He's far to greedy. He'll not make it at Chelsea and will probably go on to be a good striker at a good Premier League club. Welbeck is on the next level.

Hellboy · 31st July 2011, 14:05

Sturridge will be a Darren Bent type of striker in the future, whereas Danny is far more cultured and technically gifted. It will be really exciting this season with him along with Macheda (hopefully) and Cleverley.

BAMSOLA · 31st July 2011, 14:06

Sturridge could possibly become a pretty important player for chelsea this season under AVB's guidance, I get the feeling that he will be the kind of manager who actually helps to bridge(pun intended) the gap between Chelsea's ageing squad and the younger talents they have around the squad such as Obi mikel, Josh McEachran and sturridge himself.

Although having said that Welbeck is a far more talented player than Sturridge on just about every level other than finishing. He is more techincally gifted and a much more intelligent footballer. I certainly wouldn't swap Welbeck for Sturridge as Sturridge's main problem is that he is a central striker with decent techincal ability who has been shunted out to the flanks on many occasions because he has better players ahead of him centrally.

Whether Chelsea can make that his more natural position or find a home for him centrally remains to be seen.

datura · 31st July 2011, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Hellboy

Sturridge will be a Darren Bent type of striker in the future, whereas Danny is far more cultured and technically gifted. It will be really exciting this season with him along with Macheda (hopefully) and Cleverley.

I think that's a poor comparison. Sturridge has a good eye for a pass, can beat a player, good shot from distance and a great touch. He's got far more to his game then Bent who is primarily a box player (and very good at it).

Welbeck looks more of a team player and better in the air and with his hold up play, but they are both good talents and England will hope they both fulfil their promise.

Hellboy · 31st July 2011, 14:13

When I compared him to Bent, I meant that he won't make it in a big club IMO, he will be a good PL striker just like Bent is, whereas Welbeck has a chance thanks to his outstanding ability. I didn't necessarily refer to his footballing qualities.

Red Dreams · 31st July 2011, 15:38

Wellbeck would partner Rooney...except we have Chicho. not a bad problem to have.

we are so fortunate.

This lad is going to be some footballer. Just watch him go this season.

Dr. Dwayne · 31st July 2011, 16:23

he's going to have quite a season.

Ace · 31st July 2011, 16:39

With Hernandez out for the start of the season, I hope to see him get some serious minutes. I have a feeling he's still behind Owen in the pecking order (and rightfully so), but I'd like to see him given a proper run out. Exciting times ahead.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 16:41

It's good to see him getting the recognition that his talent deserves. I think he could be the most influential of the players that joined/returned from loan this summer. People are talking about his finishing also, which I think is due to him not scoring his chance last night, but I don't think theres a problem with this part of his game really. Or atleast, one that he doesn't have the ability to put right.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 16:46

I thought this video was worth posting also...

Alwyn · 31st July 2011, 17:05

that's amazing!

"What are you going to wear?"

Sunny Jim · 31st July 2011, 17:15

Rooney, Hernandez, Owen, Welcbeck, Berbaton, Macheda, Diouf wow just wow we are well stocked in this dep.

Richter · 31st July 2011, 18:17

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Originally Posted by pocco

It's good to see him getting the recognition that his talent deserves. I think he could be the most influential of the players that joined/returned from loan this summer. People are talking about his finishing also, which I think is due to him not scoring his chance last night, but I don't think theres a problem with this part of his game really. Or atleast, one that he doesn't have the ability to put right.

His finishing/composure in front of goal has always been my biggest concern about him, then again the likes of Rooney,Ronaldo,Henry,Torres etc didn't score for fun at his age so it's hopefully something that will come with age and experience.

Fiskey · 31st July 2011, 19:54

I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's going to be a top 10 world player, I really think he's very very special.

Shimo · 31st July 2011, 19:58

That little back heel to himself from Nani's ball last night was class. There was another ball where he had run offside on De Gea clearance but, he took the ball in a Berba-esque manner down. He's really showing some great promise, hope he gets a chance in some meaningful games ahead of Owen.

Lance Uppercut · 31st July 2011, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Red Dreams

whisper it..

think he just may be ahead of berba come this season.

No chance.

johnmufc · 31st July 2011, 20:19

I was ridiculed for saying he was a better footballer than Chicharito several months ago. Perhaps more people will begin to agree with me. Please do not misinterpret me, I think Chicharito is a a very effective player who suits us so well, but Welbeck has so much more to his game.

Welbeck can become an ideal modern forward, and Ferguson must give him at least 30 games next year. He is too good to have as a fringe player, and it is not fair on his development if he isn't given enough opportunities.

He deserves to start against City in the Community Shield, and I am confident he will impress.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Shimo

That little back heel to himself from Nani's ball last night was class. There was another ball where he had run offside on De Gea clearance but, he took the ball in a Berba-esque manner down. He's really showing some great promise, hope he gets a chance in some meaningful games ahead of Owen.

Welbeck's first touch has always been one of his strong points. This one in particular was my favourite

Dailymotion - sunchessv247 - a Tech & Science video

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

No chance.

Why?

Lance Uppercut · 31st July 2011, 20:29

Why is he not going to be ahead of Berbatov in the pecking order this season? Are you serious?

FlawlessThaw · 31st July 2011, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Why is he not going to be ahead of Berbatov in the pecking order this season? Are you serious?

I don't think he will be ahead of Berbatov by the end of the season but then people did say the same thing about Hernandez at the beginning of last year.

I reckon Danny will have a few issues over productivity to force his way in but he does have a lot of promise.

Lance Uppercut · 31st July 2011, 20:33

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

I don't think he will be ahead of Berbatov by the end of the season but then people did say the same thing about Hernandez at the beginning of last year.

I reckon Danny will have a few issues over productivity to force his way in but he does have a lot of promise.

Agreed.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Why is he not going to be ahead of Berbatov in the pecking order this season? Are you serious?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

Agreed.

Yes, I'm being serious. It wouldn't be as big a surprise as you make out. You even went on to agree with a post that mentions Hernandez, who looked an even bigger underdog this time last season.

Edit: I'm saying that Welbeck could overtake Berbatov in the pecking order this season, not to begin with.

Striker10 · 31st July 2011, 20:42

I might as well say it. Berbatov is a great player but he's not always consistent and he's not the best finisher in spite of his goals tally. Welbecks form for sunderland where he went on a scoring run, was something that didn't really happen for Berbatov. He was very patchy. So all these things people say Welbeck can improve on...

Lance Uppercut · 31st July 2011, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocco

Yes, I'm being serious. It wouldn't be as big a surprise as you make out. You even went on to agree with a post that mentions Hernandez, who looked an even bigger underdog this time last season.

I agreed with this:

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I reckon Danny will have a few issues over productivity to force his way in but he does have a lot of promise.

Berbatov was the top scorer in the PL last season. Welbeck will be fighting to get past Owen.

pocco · 31st July 2011, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

I agreed with this:

Berbatov was the top scorer in the PL last season. Welbeck will be fighting to get past Owen.

I edited my last post. Welbeck will show that he brings more to our game and, eventually, will overtake Berbatov. We all know the argument surrounding Berbatov's season last year, so I think Fergie will look past the goals and assess who is performing better for the team. Which I think will be Welbeck.

It'll be like the Nistelrooy/Saha situation all over again.

Lance Uppercut · 31st July 2011, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocco

I edited my last post. Welbeck will show that he brings more to our game and, eventually, will overtake Berbatov. We all know the argument surrounding Berbatov's season last year, so I think Fergie will look past the goals and assess who is performing better for the team. Which I think will be Welbeck.

It'll be like the Nistelrooy/Saha situation all over again.

I just saw your edit. He certainly could overtake Berbatov in the pecking order, but I don't believe it will be this season. Time will tell.

KingEric7 · 2nd August 2011, 19:16

So excited about Welbeck. My mate (a City fan) got it spot on yesterday when he said "he's such a United player".

Got great ability, fast and sometimes that bit of magic also. Hope he makes it as a starter at this club - will be a massive shame if he doesn't.

adexkola · 2nd August 2011, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocco

I think Fergie will look past the goals and assess who is performing better for the team...

You know they are strikers right?

marjen · 2nd August 2011, 19:31

Don't know if this is posted, but what about this for a first touch: (at 3:42)

His first touch is absolutely brilliant, it takes him into so many good positions. Awareness seems to be really good.

Elliott · 2nd August 2011, 19:46

Missed the US games as they happened so I'm watching them now in random order. Just done with the Chicago match, Danny was class. Underrated passer of the ball.

Boss · 2nd August 2011, 20:37

The Danster is doing big things!

Maybe he can start over the weekend!

pocco · 2nd August 2011, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by adexkola

You know they are strikers right?

Don't be so simple minded. You'll see soon enough.

Xander45 · 2nd August 2011, 20:42

Scored and assisted so far in the game against Marseille, him and Cleverley are playing really well.

#07 · 2nd August 2011, 20:59

Got nothing but good things to say about Welbeck. He's really coming on strong. I had my doubts about him before last season but he really blossomed under Bruce at Sunderland and since he's returned to United he's shown no signs of slowing down. Happy to have him in the squad he's got goals in him and is a nice player of the ball too.

Pogue Mahone · 2nd August 2011, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander45

Scored and assisted so far in the game against Marseille, him and Cleverley are playing really well.

Best players on the pitch so far (I'm watching on sky+ and only 40 minutes in)

I see that ESPN spelled Danny's name wrong, the mongs.

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31st July 2011, 11:25	#41 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 9,575	Very versatile and very good, I hope a couple of strikers are loaned/sold to accommodate him.

31st July 2011, 12:40	#42 (permalink)
Adzzz Astrophysical Genius Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Don't Put My Swag on a Pedestal, I'll leave you like Owen Hargreaves at a Medical, passing me ain't credible Posts: 21,983	I have to say, Welbeck is an incredibly gifted footballer. I expect him to make it at United, possibly in a big way.

31st July 2011, 13:20	#43 (permalink)
Brwned Poster of the year: 2010 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 33,938	He's no Sturridge though.

31st July 2011, 13:25	#45 (permalink)
Twigginater WUM Alert! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obertans #1 fan. Posts: 5,585	He was fucking quality last night. Very impressive.

31st July 2011, 14:05	#47 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 9,575	Sturridge will be a Darren Bent type of striker in the future, whereas Danny is far more cultured and technically gifted. It will be really exciting this season with him along with Macheda (hopefully) and Cleverley.

31st July 2011, 14:06	#48 (permalink)
BAMSOLA Has issues! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: You're too old fat man, your tts are too big, get the f*k off my porch!! Posts: 7,495	Sturridge could possibly become a pretty important player for chelsea this season under AVB's guidance, I get the feeling that he will be the kind of manager who actually helps to bridge(pun intended) the gap between Chelsea's ageing squad and the younger talents they have around the squad such as Obi mikel, Josh McEachran and sturridge himself. Although having said that Welbeck is a far more talented player than Sturridge on just about every level other than finishing. He is more techincally gifted and a much more intelligent footballer. I certainly wouldn't swap Welbeck for Sturridge as Sturridge's main problem is that he is a central striker with decent techincal ability who has been shunted out to the flanks on many occasions because he has better players ahead of him centrally. Whether Chelsea can make that his more natural position or find a home for him centrally remains to be seen.

31st July 2011, 14:13	#50 (permalink)
Hellboy First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: "If he doesn't make it big i'll jump into the Manchester Ship Canal !" Eric Harrison on Tom Cleverley. Posts: 9,575	When I compared him to Bent, I meant that he won't make it in a big club IMO, he will be a good PL striker just like Bent is, whereas Welbeck has a chance thanks to his outstanding ability. I didn't necessarily refer to his footballing qualities.

31st July 2011, 15:38	#51 (permalink)
Red Dreams First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thunder Road to Old Trafford Posts: 23,454	Wellbeck would partner Rooney...except we have Chicho. not a bad problem to have. we are so fortunate. This lad is going to be some footballer. Just watch him go this season.

31st July 2011, 16:23	#52 (permalink)
Dr. Dwayne Slacker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Back where I don't belong Posts: 46,404	he's going to have quite a season.

31st July 2011, 16:39	#53 (permalink)
Ace Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ------------------------------ Posts: 3,718	With Hernandez out for the start of the season, I hope to see him get some serious minutes. I have a feeling he's still behind Owen in the pecking order (and rightfully so), but I'd like to see him given a proper run out. Exciting times ahead.

31st July 2011, 16:41	#54 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3,605	It's good to see him getting the recognition that his talent deserves. I think he could be the most influential of the players that joined/returned from loan this summer. People are talking about his finishing also, which I think is due to him not scoring his chance last night, but I don't think theres a problem with this part of his game really. Or atleast, one that he doesn't have the ability to put right.

31st July 2011, 16:46	#55 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3,605	I thought this video was worth posting also...

31st July 2011, 17:05	#56 (permalink)
Alwyn Got rid of his pee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: -) Posts: 11,642	that's amazing! "What are you going to wear?"

31st July 2011, 17:15	#57 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 14,700	Rooney, Hernandez, Owen, Welcbeck, Berbaton, Macheda, Diouf wow just wow we are well stocked in this dep.

31st July 2011, 19:54	#59 (permalink)
Fiskey Can't stop thinking about David Nugent's hot naked body Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,261	I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's going to be a top 10 world player, I really think he's very very special.

31st July 2011, 19:58	#60 (permalink)
Shimo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,968	That little back heel to himself from Nani's ball last night was class. There was another ball where he had run offside on De Gea clearance but, he took the ball in a Berba-esque manner down. He's really showing some great promise, hope he gets a chance in some meaningful games ahead of Owen.

31st July 2011, 20:19	#62 (permalink)
johnmufc More space between ears than Scholesy Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,121	I was ridiculed for saying he was a better footballer than Chicharito several months ago. Perhaps more people will begin to agree with me. Please do not misinterpret me, I think Chicharito is a a very effective player who suits us so well, but Welbeck has so much more to his game. Welbeck can become an ideal modern forward, and Ferguson must give him at least 30 games next year. He is too good to have as a fringe player, and it is not fair on his development if he isn't given enough opportunities. He deserves to start against City in the Community Shield, and I am confident he will impress.

31st July 2011, 20:29	#64 (permalink)
Lance Uppercut First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOBODY, calls Dugan a turd. Posts: 19,765	Why is he not going to be ahead of Berbatov in the pecking order this season? Are you serious?

31st July 2011, 20:42	#68 (permalink)
Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football club" Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 13,348	I might as well say it. Berbatov is a great player but he's not always consistent and he's not the best finisher in spite of his goals tally. Welbecks form for sunderland where he went on a scoring run, was something that didn't really happen for Berbatov. He was very patchy. So all these things people say Welbeck can improve on...

2nd August 2011, 19:16	#72 (permalink)
KingEric7 Winner of the Tabata bet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Patrice Evra is that which no greater can be conceived. Posts: 18,937	So excited about Welbeck. My mate (a City fan) got it spot on yesterday when he said "he's such a United player". Got great ability, fast and sometimes that bit of magic also. Hope he makes it as a starter at this club - will be a massive shame if he doesn't.

2nd August 2011, 19:31	#74 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	Don't know if this is posted, but what about this for a first touch: (at 3:42) His first touch is absolutely brilliant, it takes him into so many good positions. Awareness seems to be really good.

2nd August 2011, 19:46	#75 (permalink)
Elliott Likes Loan Stickies Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 8,532	Missed the US games as they happened so I'm watching them now in random order. Just done with the Chicago match, Danny was class. Underrated passer of the ball.

2nd August 2011, 20:37	#76 (permalink)
Boss Melodramatic, attention seeking space-attacker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I left you with enough memories to resurrect me with Posts: 24,283	The Danster is doing big things! Maybe he can start over the weekend!

2nd August 2011, 20:42	#78 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 18,109	Scored and assisted so far in the game against Marseille, him and Cleverley are playing really well.

2nd August 2011, 20:59	#79 (permalink)
#07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,073	Got nothing but good things to say about Welbeck. He's really coming on strong. I had my doubts about him before last season but he really blossomed under Bruce at Sunderland and since he's returned to United he's shown no signs of slowing down. Happy to have him in the squad he's got goals in him and is a nice player of the ball too.