Diouf Watch

Laphroaig · 23rd December 2009, 14:10

I too would be surprised if he was given an important role within our squad but I wouldn't be surprised if he got a game or two before the season is over.

He can cope physically already, but of course he needs to get accostumed to the tempo of the English game.

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2009, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Laphroaig

That's great, and, to me, very surprising news. I didn't expect him to get his work permit this soon. How do the deciders decide?

Would be nice to see him against Leeds and City then!

First the club has to overcome the first major hurdle of making an enquiry that isn't tentative. After that, it all seems very straightforward.

Laphroaig · 23rd December 2009, 14:27

Oh? So why did Diouf qualify (and not Manucho and a lots of others)?

charleysurf · 23rd December 2009, 14:30

Good to have a new face in the squad. Hard to see where he'll get PT in the short term. Maybe the semi with City is his best hope.

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2009, 14:32

I'm being sarcastic, to be fair.

I don't know the specifics but I do know that if Diouf got a permit this quickly/easily then poor auld Phelan was sat in front of the cameras to feed us a really lame excuse in the press conference after we backed out of the Ljajic deal.

The_Midfielder · 23rd December 2009, 14:35

Looks like people in youtube already know that him and Rooney will work out together

YouTube - Mame Biram Diouf - The New Man Utd Signing

Anyway hope he does not turn out to be the new Manucho or the new Dong..

The_Midfielder · 23rd December 2009, 14:36

We should be able to see a lot of somersaults if him and Nani score.

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I'm being sarcastic, to be fair.

I don't know the specifics but I do know that if Diouf got a permit this quickly/easily then poor auld Phelan was sat in front of the cameras to feed us a really lame excuse in the press conference after we backed out of the Ljajic deal.

Could ljajics age have been an issue? I can't think of any eighteen year olds from minor European leagues getting work permits, can you? I'm not saying that's it but if we are going to draw conclusions we should have some corroberating evidence.

devilish · 23rd December 2009, 14:54

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Originally Posted by RedRichio

Could ljajics age have been an issue? I can't think of any eighteen year olds from minor European leagues getting work permits, can you? I'm not saying that's it but if we are going to draw conclusions we should have some corroberating evidence.

I think that young players are more prone to pass from the special talent clause then 22 year olds.

RonaldoVII · 23rd December 2009, 15:13

Why can't Diouf play against Leeds?

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 15:13

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Originally Posted by devilish

I think that young players are more prone to pass from the special talent clause then 22 year olds.

Im not saying that shouldn't be the case but I really can't think of any examples off the top of my head.

Amir · 23rd December 2009, 15:55

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Originally Posted by RonaldoVII

Why can't Diouf play against Leeds?

Probably can't be registered in time, as we can only do that at the start of January and the FA offices are probably closed on January 1.

I mentioned to a scouse friend today that we got a work permit for Diouf. He just said it was another one of the little favours we get every season.

Ekeke · 23rd December 2009, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Amir

Probably can't be registered in time, as we can only do that at the start of January and the FA offices are probably closed on January 1.

I mentioned to a scouse friend today that we got a work permit for Diouf. He just said it was another one of the little favours we get every season.

Well its not like Liverpool's reserve side is choc full of young foreigners... oh wait

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2009, 17:13

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Originally Posted by RedRichio

Im not saying that shouldn't be the case but I really can't think of any examples off the top of my head.

Anderson was 19 when he got is.

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Anderson was 19 when he got is.

Yeah and already played in a big European league, although I appreciate he had been injured. He was also brazilian, which I imagine helps. I'm not being obtuse, I just can't think of any other 18 year olds getting permits. Vela couldn't a he was hyped to the heavens.

Ekeke · 23rd December 2009, 17:23

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Originally Posted by RedRichio

Yeah and already played in a big European league, although I appreciate he had been injured. He was also brazilian, which I imagine helps. I'm not being obtuse, I just can't think of any other 18 year olds getting permits. Vela couldn't a he was hyped to the heavens.

He also played a few times for his country. Perhaps even fast-tracked to make sure he got his permit. He played in a couple of friendlies.

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2009, 17:29

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Originally Posted by RedRichio

Yeah and already played in a big European league, although I appreciate he had been injured. He was also brazilian, which I imagine helps. I'm not being obtuse, I just can't think of any other 18 year olds getting permits. Vela couldn't a he was hyped to the heavens.

I can't think of any 18 years olds either but I doubt there's a cut off, in terms of age at 19 years old. That wouldn't make sense. Under 18 maybe. Not under 19. That wouldn't fit with any legal age distinctions.

As for the Anderson comparison he had played in a bigger league but Diouf is playing in fecking Norway. If they're judging whether or not someone is a special talent, surely an 18 year old playing CL football is considerably more special than someone playing in the Noggy league?

Mainoldo · 23rd December 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by The_Midfielder

Looks like people in youtube already know that him and Rooney will work out together

YouTube - Mame Biram Diouf - The New Man Utd Signing

Anyway hope he does not turn out to be the new Manucho or the new Dong..

For the price we paid.. don't be expecting mericles...

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I can't think of any 18 years olds either but I doubt there's a cut off, in terms of age at 19 years old. That wouldn't make sense. Under 18 maybe. Not under 19. That wouldn't fit with any legal age distinctions.

As for the Anderson comparison he had played in a bigger league but Diouf is playing in fecking Norway. If they're judging whether or not someone is a special talent, surely an 18 year old playing CL football is considerably more special than someone playing in the Noggy league?

I'm not talking about what should be but what is. There are no other examples. Vela coulnt get one for two years despite being one of the most highly rated youngsters in world football. It might not be right but it's how it seems to work. And diouf has played international football, which may tick a box.

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 17:59

And we couldn't get one for the dong, which was scandalous.

KM · 23rd December 2009, 18:25

Genuinely surprised by the news, he has only 1 cap for senegal and played in a average league(with due respect). As Pogue has already said, the reason which was given for Ljajic's failed transfer is now looking even more idiotic after this.

olesmyhero · 23rd December 2009, 18:54

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Originally Posted by The_Midfielder

Looks like people in youtube already know that him and Rooney will work out together

YouTube - Mame Biram Diouf - The New Man Utd Signing

Anyway hope he does not turn out to be the new Manucho or the new Dong..

Does this like somebody who'll be the next Dong? I don't think so.

Transfer United Till I Die · 23rd December 2009, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Karan Mittal

Genuinely surprised by the news, he has only 1 cap for senegal and played in a average league(with due respect). As Pogue has already said, the reason which was given for Ljajic's failed transfer is now looking even more idiotic after this.

Except it isn't given what I've said above.

Berlinknives · 23rd December 2009, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I can't think of any 18 years olds either but I doubt there's a cut off, in terms of age at 19 years old. That wouldn't make sense. Under 18 maybe. Not under 19. That wouldn't fit with any legal age distinctions.

As for the Anderson comparison he had played in a bigger league but Diouf is playing in fecking Norway. If they're judging whether or not someone is a special talent, surely an 18 year old playing CL football is considerably more special than someone playing in the Noggy league?

John Obi Mikel was playing in fecking Norway and so was Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, while Jordi Cruyft (Barcelona) and Djemba-Djemba (Nantes) played in the Champions League around the age of 18. A great measure of class that one.

Raven Blade · 23rd December 2009, 20:32

Great news regarding his work permit. He came to us cheaply and hopefully we can develop him into a very useful striker. There is no telling how far he can go at this club but im excited to see him given a chance. He comes highly recommended by Solksjaer and that kind of praise is not given lightly.

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Originally Posted by Red Pavan

Did Senegal qualify for the ACN?

I read that they didnt. So good news for us.

gambit28 · 23rd December 2009, 20:34

Holy Fuck, he got the work permit.. That'll teach me for driving for 6 hours. Shit The one is here!!!!

gambit28 · 23rd December 2009, 20:41

Why isn't the caf celeberating like mad?

Allforone · 23rd December 2009, 20:43

Awe struck.

gambit28 · 23rd December 2009, 20:44

Seriously! what the fuck is up with you people. This is the best christmas present ever.

Redfighter · 23rd December 2009, 21:06

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Why isn't the caf celeberating like mad?

We are, but it's cold

Crustanoid · 23rd December 2009, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

I'm being sarcastic, to be fair.

I don't know the specifics but I do know that if Diouf got a permit this quickly/easily then poor auld Phelan was sat in front of the cameras to feed us a really lame excuse in the press conference after we backed out of the Ljajic deal.

ouch..that still hurts

Xander45 · 23rd December 2009, 22:06

The one thing above all others that encourages me about this guy is that he's pretty damn good in the air. Would be good to have someone to get on the end of all these crosses we keep delivering.

devilish · 23rd December 2009, 22:46

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Holy Fuck, he got the work permit.. That'll teach me for driving for 6 hours. Shit The one is here!!!!

Are we prepared for him though?

Crerand Legend · 23rd December 2009, 22:49

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Originally Posted by gambit28

Why isn't the caf celeberating like mad?

Manucho and Dong might have something to do with it

Sir Matt · 23rd December 2009, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Xander45

The one thing above all others that encourages me about this guy is that he's pretty damn good in the air. Would be good to have someone to get on the end of all these crosses we keep delivering.

This is one of the reasons I'm glad he got his permit. He could provide a threat in the air that we've been lacking all season. We've scored, what, 1 goal from corners? Getting him on the end of crosses, corners, and free kicks should help us greatly. Rooney and Owen aren't exactly giants.

Ekeke · 23rd December 2009, 22:56

He does look good in the air. But Manucho looked great in the air for Angola.

Elliott · 23rd December 2009, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Sir Matt

This is one of the reasons I'm glad he got his permit. He could provide a threat in the air that we've been lacking all season. We've scored, what, 1 goal from corners? Getting him on the end of crosses, corners, and free kicks should help us greatly. Rooney and Owen aren't exactly giants.

Mame isn't exactly a giant either but his leap is remarkable. I'm pretty excited by this news for the simple reason that he'll offer us something very different. Like I said in another thread, his style is pretty Saha-esque. But only time will tell if he's able to take it to the next level.

Pogue Mahone · 23rd December 2009, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Berlinknives

John Obi Mikel was playing in fecking Norway and so was Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, while Jordi Cruyft (Barcelona) and Djemba-Djemba (Nantes) played in the Champions League around the age of 18. A great measure of class that one.

It's an objective measure. You got a better one?

How hard they kick a football? How quick they run? I doubt the home office employs football scouts.

If they don't have much international experience the quality of the club they play for and the level at which they're playing can be used to help judge whether or not a player is a "special talent".

Dyslexic Untied · 23rd December 2009, 23:19

I doubt he is Elliot, sadly.

I just don't see that he has the class required to cut it at United. Would love to be proven wrong though.

Elliott · 23rd December 2009, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Ruben

I doubt he is Elliot, sadly.

I just don't see that he has the class required to cut it at United. Would love to be proven wrong though.

Totally see where you're coming from, mate. But his progession since he arrived in Norway has been outstanding and if it continues at United anything can happen.

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23rd December 2009, 14:10	#401 (permalink)
Laphroaig First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: By the Light of a Magical Moon Posts: 13,320	I too would be surprised if he was given an important role within our squad but I wouldn't be surprised if he got a game or two before the season is over. He can cope physically already, but of course he needs to get accostumed to the tempo of the English game.

23rd December 2009, 14:27	#403 (permalink)
Laphroaig First Team Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: By the Light of a Magical Moon Posts: 13,320	Oh? So why did Diouf qualify (and not Manucho and a lots of others)?

23rd December 2009, 14:30	#404 (permalink)
charleysurf Talks sense Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,612	Good to have a new face in the squad. Hard to see where he'll get PT in the short term. Maybe the semi with City is his best hope.

23rd December 2009, 14:32	#405 (permalink)
Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons from a deckchair" Posts: 59,522	I'm being sarcastic, to be fair. I don't know the specifics but I do know that if Diouf got a permit this quickly/easily then poor auld Phelan was sat in front of the cameras to feed us a really lame excuse in the press conference after we backed out of the Ljajic deal.

23rd December 2009, 14:35	#406 (permalink)
The_Midfielder Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,466	Looks like people in youtube already know that him and Rooney will work out together YouTube - Mame Biram Diouf - The New Man Utd Signing Anyway hope he does not turn out to be the new Manucho or the new Dong..

23rd December 2009, 14:36	#407 (permalink)
The_Midfielder Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,466	We should be able to see a lot of somersaults if him and Nani score.

23rd December 2009, 15:13	#410 (permalink)
RonaldoVII First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: E236:24:101 PSN:FrozenInHell BetfairPromo: UTFAKVVTJ Posts: 12,090	Why can't Diouf play against Leeds?

23rd December 2009, 17:59	#420 (permalink)
Transfer United Till I Die I am totally in the know, honest Join Date: May 2006 Location: pessimismium Posts: 7,651	And we couldn't get one for the dong, which was scandalous.

23rd December 2009, 18:25	#421 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	Genuinely surprised by the news, he has only 1 cap for senegal and played in a average league(with due respect). As Pogue has already said, the reason which was given for Ljajic's failed transfer is now looking even more idiotic after this.

23rd December 2009, 20:34	#426 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,714	Holy Fuck, he got the work permit.. That'll teach me for driving for 6 hours. Shit The one is here!!!!

23rd December 2009, 20:41	#427 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,714	Why isn't the caf celeberating like mad?

23rd December 2009, 20:43	#428 (permalink)
Allforone First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United could spend £85million on David De Gea, Phil Jones, Ashley Young and Wesley Sneijder. Quote: Liverpool spent £85million on Andy Carroll, Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing. Posts: 11,646	Awe struck.

23rd December 2009, 20:44	#429 (permalink)
gambit28 Desperately wants to be a Muppet Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asagan and SagatX destroyed, now worship COX! Posts: 24,714	Seriously! what the fuck is up with you people. This is the best christmas present ever.

23rd December 2009, 22:06	#432 (permalink)
Xander45 Know-It-All Champion May 2009 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fratton Park, play up Pompey! Posts: 18,109	The one thing above all others that encourages me about this guy is that he's pretty damn good in the air. Would be good to have someone to get on the end of all these crosses we keep delivering.

23rd December 2009, 22:56	#436 (permalink)
Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,738	He does look good in the air. But Manucho looked great in the air for Angola.

23rd December 2009, 23:19	#439 (permalink)
Dyslexic Untied First Team Sub Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,642	I doubt he is Elliot, sadly. I just don't see that he has the class required to cut it at United. Would love to be proven wrong though.