Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse

Boss

Kinell.

I heard Ronaldinho and Estelle text suarez saying "you've got some big fucking teeth mate!"

De Selby

Does anyone have a link to that photoshop thread with Hodgson & Lee?

I need cheering up.

Magnus

Fair enough

Magnus

Fuck off girl

Edmeiste

The trolls are well and truly out! So sorry for Evra there....he didnt stand a chance

Mick1991

Absolute twat, tryin' to be all pally pally with him for the cameras. The bloke is a snake.

Red Dreams

LFC says Suarez has denied the allegations.


I'm shocked btw.

FA investigates Evra's racism claims against Liverpool - The Globe and Mail

gooDevil

Did he blame hackers, by any chance?

Big-Red

I was once called a ginger cunt, same thing basically.

acrebo

I have no idea who might be right or wrong in this situation, but it's very interesting to see each set of supporter's paint their own player in a different light to their rival!

Liverpool focus on Evra having 'form' for this, with Suarez being lonely, vulnerable and new to the English game. We focus on Evra being our captain and thoroughly committed to the cause, with Suarez being a known diver with history of extreme behaviour in his biting incident.

I get the feeling that Evra exaggerates things sometimes and perhaps lets his pride follow things through that aren't necessarily justified. However, I'm referring more to the occasional free kick or throw in that he'll argue the toss about, not being called "The N Word".

I don't see any reason why Evra would lie about it, especially as he reported it after the game, a result which our players should be comparatively satisfied with. Suarez does come across as a bit of a spiteful guy, but a racist? Dunno.

Collina

I don't think he is. But he is a twat (on the pitch), so it's not really unlikely that he's said it without being a racist...

Edmeiste

What does that even mean?

Man Utd Mrs

Aye it's one of the best ever !

Makki

That he said the most provocative thing he could in order to spark a reaction without meaning what he said.

Obviously on a different scale with the stigma associated with the particular word that Suarez is claimed to have said, but it's like Materazzi saying that Zidane's sister is a whore despite not believing that she is one. Merely saying the most offensive thing he could come up with to get a reaction out of the opponent.

Jonno

For whatever reason, if he was racist, he was racist!

Edmeiste

I see that. In that sense it is possible but you have to admit that's climbing pretty low if he actually did say those racist remarks just to get a reaction. There's other ways of winding up your opponent

Makki

Absolutely. However, in my opinion it would be even worse to actually have the racist thoughts that were widely spread in societies around the world not too long ago.

Edmeiste

very true.

Collina

Yep, I agree with you. I didn't mean to defend Suarez, I just pointed out that he doesn't need to be racist to say something like that. It's enough to be a twat. Doesn't help his case much if he said it.

I don't think he'll be punished, but I really really want him to be (if he said it).

Badunk

Paddy is french. What if he just called him a frog and was going around saying "ribbet" in his ear?


All jokes aside, though, I believe Evra 100%. I also totally agree with Boss in his stance on the n word. I'd bet anything that the posters who used it wouldn't say it in front of a black person, regardless of whatever 'point' they were trying to make. There's no need to use it, full stop.

MrMarcello

Not going to scroll through the entire thread but has anyone noticed soccernet's story accuses Evra initially?

FA probe Man United's Patrice Evra on Luis Suarez of Liverpool - ESPN Soccernet

It is believed the investigation will follow claims of alleged racist abuse made by United defender Patrice Evra against Liverpool striker Luis Suarez.

Red Dreams

they obviously mixed up the names. further down they get it right.

MrMarcello

Well thank you citizen for pointing out the obvious.

Just saying you'd think they would realize their mistake and correct it.

Red Dreams

I'm suspicious of sites that call it soccer instead of football tbf.

gbgary

taken mascherano's place as the pool cunt who needs his ass worn out with a bat.

RDCR07

What exactly does 'categorically denied' mean?

MadDogg

In the six years he's been playing in England, this is the first time he's ever claimed an on-the-field racist incident.

There was also the incident with the Chelsea groundsman, but that was after a match. There was insufficient evidence either way there so both parties got punished for their part in the fight.

So in six years, you think him being on the receiving end of racism a grand total of twice is an anomaly?

Drifter

No where near the same.

retardman5

Considering the copious amounts of black players that have had longer Premiership careers without any reports of racial abuse, then yes, I'd consider 2 in 6 years to be something of an anomaly. What makes it even more suspicious, is the fact that these allegations have come on the grounds of 2 of United's fiercest rivals - If Suarez is guilty, then he'll deserve everything that's coming to him. But falsely accusing someone of racial abuse is just as serious as racial abuse itself. Therefore, I trust the FA will come down hard on Patrice Evra should his allegations be found to be untrue.

Feeky_Magee

What are your thoughts on assuming allegations of racial abuse are untrue, largely because of which football team you support?

retardman5

Until proven otherwise, they are untrue. So your point is invalid.

I have to confess to using a six letter word the begins with 'n' & ends with 'er' to describe Patrice Evra when he was chasing Suarez around the penalty box yesterday. But if calling someone a 'nutter' is a criminal offence, then sue me.

KM

If they can't be proven, then it doesn't mean that Evra is falsely accusing someone. Stop acting like a moron.

retardman5

So it's OK for Evra to bring out the racist card every time he spits out his dummy then ? Simply because it can't be proven either way.

Take off your blinkers soft-lad.

Feeky_Magee

un·true/ˌənˈtro͞o/
Adjective: Not in accordance with fact or reality; false or incorrect.

For something to be untrue, it must be proven to be untrue, just like for something to be true, it must be proven to be true. If it cannot be proven either way, it's inconclusive.

Do you think Marcelo's claims against Busquets were 'untrue'? After all, it couldn't be proven otherwise.

KM

Every time?

He refused to make allegations on Steve Finnan, when it was heard by two fans.

He has done it once in last six years and it was against the Chelsea Groundsman, a claim which was backed by Phelan and United's GK coach at that time. It's you who need to take his blinkers off.

If you think that just because a thing can't be proven, it'll be deemed to be untrue then you quite frankly a retard.

acrebo

Everytime! Awesome.

Evra generally has a rant at someone at some point in most games. He's a volatile and inherently dislikeable character. But he doesn't "keep on" using the race card. He's reported once before and, as said, he was backed up. The groundsman has argued a case of mishearing "ignorant" as "immigrant".

Magnus

If Evra is lying then goodbye Pat. If he isn´t I hope the cheating bastard get what he deserves. But still stand by what I´ve said about "heat in the moment". I´ve done and said things as much as I´ve had things, not very nice, coming my way, but i firmly believe that you can be a twat "in the heat" without being a twat in general life.

KM

Raoul

Would've been more interesting if Rafa was still around.

EricaNo7

where is that from?