Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse

Irwynwastheking

It has to be Bullshit on a quiet news weekend.

kietotheworld

Yes, although the standard of proof used is somewhat higher, being beyond reasonable doubt rather than balance of probabilities, and it's enforced by the courts rather than any club.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with John Terry if he's found guilty of it by the Magistrates - the United fan who pleaded guilty to racial abuse is banned from entering any football stadium in the UK for 3 years, and required to surrender his passport whenever England play abroad.

Dave89

Ban the cunt.

Damien

It really is awful. Their "headline article" says it all:

'Luis Suarez is a disgrace and should be sold, says Sir Akex Ferguson'

And has been like that since the 12th of Feb.

Still no article on The People's website and the only article published today by the person who was supposed to do this supposed article on Luis Suarez is this:



Which briefly mentions Suarez.

Twisted_Woody

I can't remember where it was discussed but didn't the president of Uruguay come out and say Suarez was the victim?

I mentioned that comment to a friend and he pointed out that the only thing Suarez was a victim of was the 21st century...

Sky1981

He's asking for it, i guess he's really mental

Damien

That was the captain but the President of Uruguay also talked about it:

Luis Suarez receives 'support and solidarity' from Uruguayan president Jose Mujica - Goal.com

Uruguay captain:

"Luis is a victim" after FA charge Suarez with racism - Uruguay captain Diego Lugano :: Live Soccer TV

Edmeiste

sounds awfully desperate from lugano. does he need to read the FA report too?

EricaNo7

So how did this idiot explain the biting incident while Suarez was ar Ajax?

" luis has very prominent teeth and the other player shoulder charged him, and poor little Luis's teeth bore the brunt....... "

Redlambs

It still amuses me how apparantly England have a bigger racism problem because we are tackling it, rather than making it socially acceptable and therefore not a problem

Sir A1ex

It's called ignorance. Pure and simple.

LLMU

in Uruguay , it is acceptable ..

amolbhatia100

Evra is breaking all the ethics of soccer.

How dare Evra report racism. That's against the very fundamentals upon which football stands.

Redlambs

No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. If you laugh at racism and call everyone negro, racism no longer exists! Further more, when everyone just stops fighting the inevitable that John Barnes is a scientific genius, we'll learn that there's no such thing as race and thus racism cannot possibly exist!

We got it all wrong, those bananas were from well wishers thinking Johnny needed fattening up. How stupid and ignorant are we? I feel bad now

Rednails

This was the lead story on BBC Look North at lunchtime. Its not going away, but will LFC respond?

Community leaders & anti racist organisations accuse Liverpool FC of inciting racism - press release
Press Release
Monday February 20th
Contact
Gloria Hyatt MBE:
0151 726 0903 or 0787965557 Or Lee Jasper: 07984 181797


Liverpool Football Club has come under fierce criticism from an influential group of high profile, local and national black leaders, alongside a host of anti racist organisations.

The group have written an open letter delivered today accusing LFC and manager Kenny Dalglish of grossly mishandling the Saurez/Patrice Evra affair contributing to the incitement of racism in football and wider society. We know that they have had good advice to assist them and refused to take it choosing instead to continue on in this manner.

The group called on LFC to accept the findings of the FA investigation that concluded that Suarez had racially abused Evra and offer an immediate and unreserved apology to Evra.

LFC is accused of colluding with racism by seeking to dismiss the FA's findings and racially aggravating this sensitive issue by inappropriately and misguidedly showing public team support for Suarez post the publication of the FA's investigative report into these matters. The refusal of Suarez to shake Evra's hand was a further incitement of racism. The group called on LFC to acknowledge the implicit racism involved and issue a statement with other civic leaders committing themselves to opposing racism and to commit to organise a conference on racism in football.

Gloria Hyatt MBE said

" Liverpool Football Club has presided over the worst incident of racism in football seen in recent years. Their misguided handling of Suarez/Evra has let down all of those in the city who worked hard to challenge racism and make Liverpool a better place to live for everyone."

Lee Jasper a national human rights and race equality campaigner said

" The club including the owners, the players and the manager need to realise the enormous damage caused by their reluctance and obdurate behaviour. Kenny Daglish used to manage Celtic he ought to know the importance of stamping out bigotry. The club failed the city, the nation as a whole and in particular Britain's black communities. Their abysmal lack of leadership on this issues has given a green light to racism. They must make urgent reparations and make a clear and unequivocal apology".Letter sent to Liverpool FC:

Statement of Intent

We the undersigned wish to express our grave concerns about the inadequate responses of Liverpool Football Club to the findings by the FA regulatory commission that determined Luis Saurez was guilty of racially insulting the Manchester United player, Patrice Evra.

Football is a unifying sport providing pleasure and entertainment to billions of people across the planet. Young people from every corner of our world passionately support their team. Football players are held in high regard and viewed as positive role models.

Clubs, players and managers have an important and globally recognized responsibility to demonstrate their commitment to the principle of common decency and fair play. Throughout the world, both on and off the football pitch they inspire and socially educate billions of young people who admire and mimic their actions.

The issue of racism in football is one that requires unambiguous anti racist leadership. The actions of LFC in the run up to and following the publication of the FA’s findings fell short of the high standard of leadership expected for a team of their standing in the football community.

LFC actions, in vehemently rejecting the findings of the FA inquiry, their public displays of support for a player found guilty of racist abuse and his subsequent refusal to shake the hand of Evra at a recent game is completely unacceptable. These actions we believe could be considered as inciting racial intolerance.

Whilst the subsequent apologies for the failure to engage with the traditions of a pre game “hand shake” are to be welcomed, there remains deep concern, about LFC’s absolute refusal to accept the findings of the FA’s investigation. As such these apologies fail to meet the test of genuine remorse and understanding. This is further negated by LFC’s failure to apologise for racism either through the club or Suarez.

Neither have LFC recognised or acknowledged the consequent damage to race relations resulting from their actions and recognised by many people of all races across the country. As a result, efforts to combat racism in football and the wider society in general have been critically undermined.

Compounding these serious errors is the failures of Liverpool’s civic leaders, many of whom have remained silent on these critical issues and have failed to publicly condemn LFC’s decision not to robustly and effectively challenge racism.

Such is the overwhelming power of the Premier League and the influence of clubs such as LFC it is imperative that this situation cannot be allowed to stand.
The international reputation of Liverpool as a city committed to race equality is at stake. In addition there is a real and urgent need to restore confidence in the campaign against racism in football, both here, in the UK and across the world.

To this end we have four key demands;

that LFC publicly accept the findings of the FA into the Suarez case.
that LFC and Suarez publicly apologize to Patrice Evra.
that LFC in partnership with Liverpool and national black and ethnic minority organisations commit to and sponsor an international conference on the issue of eradicating racism in football.
that civic leaders in addition to LFC sign up to a public declaration reaffirming their commitment to combating racism and promoting race equality through pro active actions.



Love Football, Hate Racism:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LFHRUK
Twitter: follow @LFHRUK
Consortium of Liverpool and National Black and Minority Organisations:

Gloria Hyatt MBE Teach Consultancy Limited
Liverpool Black Leadership Forum
Femi Sowande Merseyside Black History Month Group
Eric Lynch Slavery History Tours
Alec Mcfadden Merseyside Coalition Against Racism and Facism
Alec Mcfadden Merseyside TUC
Paul Sesay Smith Diversity Group and National Diversity Awards
Earl Jenkins Kingsley United
Paul Jenkins North West Unite Against Facism
Zita Holbourne Black Activists Rising Against Cuts
Shantele Janes Cheshire Halton and Warrington Race Equality Centre
Tracey Hylton Edit Consultancy
Lee Jasper London Race and Criminal Justice Consortium
Peter Herbert OBE Society of Black Lawyers
Simon Woolley Operation Black vote
Charles Crichlow National Black Police Association
Dave Weaver 1990 Trust
Stafford Scott Tottenham Defence Campaign
Viv Ahmun Coreplan

MUFCgal

I know people just want it over and done with, but to me a public apology from both Suarez himself and Liverpool FC would completely end this whole thing IMO.

In the statement that Liverpool released after Suarez was given the 8 match ban, they painted Evra as a liar and they said he had previously accused others of racism. They slandered his name unfairly and for that they should apologise.

Redlambs

They won't apologise, Dalglish and the fans want this to continue. Dalglish knows this is the best way to galvanise the team and drag those bunch of midtable failures to fourth.

It'll be no surprise if Suarez does turn up Thursday. Unless, of course, their sponsors order otherwise.

Redlambs

Oh and if that group really want to make an impact with that letter, they'd be better off targetting Liverpool's sponsors (ironically, scouser style) since they are the ones who clearly call the shots

Irwynwastheking

It seems the letter has been pulled from the BBC website.

Red Dreams

cowards.

Rooney24

There will be no public apology from Liverpool or Suarez to Evra directly. If that was going to happen it would have been included in the apologies of last week.

Best just to move on from this now in the knowledge that they have tarnished their name almost irreparably in my opinion. Dalglish has shown himself up to be an absolute disgrace in all of this and unfortunately for him I think this will always hang over him and taint his legacy.

Talking Vulture

His legacy HAS been tainted. NQAT

Crustanoid

The fact that thousands of fans are still going round calling a victim of racial abuse a liar and painting him as the villain is shameful - this is directly linked to Dalglish and Suarez not apologising to Evra publicly.

Twigginater

Liverpool have been told by a group of local and national black leaders that they should issue an unreserved apology to Manchester United's Patrice Evra, having contributed to the "incitement of racism in football and the wider society" with their reluctant acceptance of Luis Suarez's punishment for using a racially derogatory term to Evra.

Suarez has never apologised directly to Evra and a revealing sense of how the controversy has provided an excuse for the racist minority to air their vitriol publicly was provided last week by youth worker and Liverpool FC scout Earl Jenkins. Now, in an open letter to the club and manager Kenny Dalglish, whose insistence that Suarez take a penalty in front of the Kop against Brighton on Sunday seemed a gesture of solidarity, the group have told Liverpool to accept publicly the findings of the FA-appointed independent regulatory commission once and for all. They are yet to offer such a comment.

Gloria Hyatt, who leads the group, said: "Liverpool FC has presided over the worst incident of racism in football seen in recent years. Their misguided handling of the ... saga has let down all of those in the city who work hard to challenge racism and to make Liverpool a better place to live for everyone."

Lee Jasper, the activist who was equality adviser to the Ken Livingstone during his time as Mayor of London, said: "The club, including the owners, the players and the manager need to realise the enormous damage caused by their reluctance and obdurate behaviour. Kenny Dalglish used to manage Celtic. He ought to know the importance of stamping out bigotry. The club failed the city, the nation as a whole, and Britain's black communities. Their abysmal lack of leadership on these issues has given a green light to racism. They must make urgent reparations ... and a clear and unequivocal apology."

The group's open letter says racism in football calls for "unambiguous anti-racist leadership" but that Liverpool's actions "fell short of the high standard of leadership expected for a team of their standing." The group has called for Liverpool, in partnership with ethnic minority organisations, to sponsor an international conference on the issue of eradicating racism in football.

Jenkins described how the Suarez affair had affectedhis Liverpool-supporting nephew for last week's Anfield Wrap podcast. "[He] doesn't want to go [to games] any more because for the first time he has seen our supporters racially abusing opposition players. He is scared to go." The abuse had occurred "two or three weeks ago" during an away match, Jenkins said. "[Racists] have felt comfortable saying that. They didn't before."


Black leaders tackle Liverpool on Suarez - News & Comment - Football - The Independent

Crustanoid

Some absolute spastics commenting on that article on the Indy website

Talking Vulture

Surprised? The scousers think Evra is a liar, despite everything that has been reported. They will never accept that Suarez was in the wrong and it shows that they're more interested in not letting United 'win' this one than actually seeing how stupid they are making themselves.

If Suarez called a Wigan player a negro, the apology would have been issued, the ignorance/culture card would have been accepted by all and everyone associated would have moved on. The scouse cunts can't do that when it involves a Manchester United player. Wankers

Crustanoid

Absolutely, but the cost of this ridiculous attitude is the proliferation of racism and tolerance of racist behaviour

Talking Vulture

Yes, everyone can see this and I suspect the scousers can (deep down)
But it comes back to the fact it's Man United (and Evra) that they need to apologise to and seeing as they've dug their heels in from the start, they just don't have the grace to admit they're wrong. Which makes you wonder why they never appealed. The whole situation is rotten to the core and just seeing that cunt nip Evra makes me feel sick.

SteveJ

Sad but completely true, in my opinion. It's noticeable that pitifully few Liverpool fans still talk about clearing Suarez's name; that seems to have been very quickly forgotten & it shows that they're far more concerned with this 'loss' to Manchester United.

032Devil

Handshake was more important than admitting a racial offence.

I think the problem has grown now to include the national media, for whom the issue is at an end. The media and society as a whole have now brushed the issue under the carpet and turned a blind eye.

Maybe it reveals something about British society that the real issue is ignored except by minority groups.

SteveJ

Ajax deny reports Suarez has been invited to attend Old Trafford clash - Goal.com

Stanley Road

He's got tickets for the game

Suárez steunt Ajax op 'vijandig' Old Trafford - Ajax - AD

Basically says he got tickets from his old mates at the club

King_Eric

They are just reporting/repeating the British press stories though here. This piece is from yesterday afternoon. Most recent news I heard was the Ajax-director saying he has no knowledge of anyone giving tickets to Suarez.

Stanley Road

Doesn't say he's not going, just not as an Ajax vip


Of hij door iemand is uitgenodigd is ons niet bekend”, reageert Miel Brinkhuis, perschef van Ajax op het gerucht uit Engeland. „Luis is in ieder geval niet officieel door Ajax uitgenodigd, zoals Johnny Heitinga die wel bij onze gasten in het VIP-gedeelte zit

gooDevil

Sir A1ex

Minority groups such as grasping over-privileged posh twerps who'll jump on any passing bandwagon in a desperate attempt to be popular?...


Cameron aims to 'crush' racism

032Devil

Pure PR by Cameron. The rest of your statement is plain ignorance.

Liam147

Suarez's grandma weighs in. Very long article, going over a lot of the same points already stated, but from different people, with one lovely addition to that lovely chap's growing portfolio of on-field 'mishaps'. See if you can spot it.




Luis Suarez's granny reveals she used to call him 'Mi Negrito' ¦ The Sun

Snow

Very very relevant

Zen86

When he's in Uruguay he can say negro all he wants, but now he's in the UK he better shut his fucking mouth.