Fabio Da Silva

marjen · 6th February 2012, 08:32

I'd thrown Fabio in as of now. The defensive frailties of Evra are now too concerning to ignore, and Fabio will contribute similarly going forward.

SharkyMcShark · 6th February 2012, 09:29

I wouldn't 'throw' him in, although I'd begin giving him the odd game here and there at LB.

He's only played there once for us in the league, ever (opening day this season).

#07 · 16th February 2012, 07:43

Fabio blames Suarez | Sky Sports

I like what I'm hearing.

With Evra being rested for the Europa league tie tonight I'd like to see Fabio started at left full back. There's an argument that with the way Patrice's form has been lately Fabio should be starting more anyways. I think he deserves an opportunity to remind us what he's capable of this evening.

buckooo1978 · 16th February 2012, 07:58

I think Fergie has said evra won't travel - fabio or fryers will play

Jaap · 16th February 2012, 09:13

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Originally Posted by buckooo1978

I think Fergie has said evra won't travel - fabio or fryers will play

We could well see Evans there but that's a long shot.

unitedbhoy · 16th February 2012, 10:05

I thought Fabio was injured?

Amir · 16th February 2012, 10:46

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Originally Posted by unitedbhoy

I thought Fabio was injured?

He's been back for a few weeks now, but only on the bench.

towcester_red · 16th February 2012, 10:47

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Originally Posted by unitedbhoy

I thought Fabio was injured?

Give it 15 minutes tonight....

ArmchairCritic · 16th February 2012, 19:55

His positioning and anticipation was spot on tonight, overplayed it a few times in possession but he's very good.

KM · 16th February 2012, 19:57

Thought he was our best player in the first half, wasn't that good in the second half but still very promising performance though.

Stobzilla · 16th February 2012, 20:03

I don't think the twins talents have ever been in question, just their ability to stay fit. Hopefully they can both do so for the run in, Fabio in particular so we don't have to use Evra for the Europa games.

Van Piorsing · 16th February 2012, 20:05

He looked like Rafael.

anything about now · 16th February 2012, 20:05

Very good and would like to see him given more game time as long as he's fit. That's why Rafael is so immense, he was lucky with injuries for an extended run and went on to become one of the league's best RBs. Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one, and he is so good at attacking that he can easily surpass Evra's best seasons for us.

Escobar · 16th February 2012, 20:06

He clearly needs games and I hope he gets them this season from time to time

7even · 16th February 2012, 20:07

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Originally Posted by ArmchairCritic

His positioning and anticipation was spot on tonight, overplayed it a few times in possession but he's very good.

Agree!

All he needs is more minutes then he will catch up with his brother. Probably future replacement for Evra if this continue. .

Kraftwerker · 16th February 2012, 20:07

90 minutes.

Shimo · 16th February 2012, 20:15

I think we can stop with the Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one. 4 years ago, when they first came here, Fabio maybe held the edge but, that has probably gone out the window. That recent interview in the Rafael thread even mentioned that Rafael probably has an advantage now in having bulked up a bit more.

Think Fabio will do just fine and will probably match Rafael but, wouldn't expect him to be the better of the two simply because when they first came 1 was rated a bit higher.

Jimy_Hills_Chin · 16th February 2012, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Shimo

I think we can stop with the Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one. 4 years ago, when they first came here, Fabio maybe held the edge but, that has probably gone out the window. That recent interview in the Rafael thread even mentioned that Rafael probably has an advantage now in having bulked up a bit more.

Think Fabio will do just fine and will probably match Rafael but, wouldn't expect him to be the better of the two simply because when they first came 1 was rated a bit higher.

I think that Fabio won the Golden Shoe in the World Cup or Copa America U15's, yes from the left back position too. He was also Captain if I remember correctly.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · 16th February 2012, 20:18

We don't have to stop saying something that is pretty obvious to the naked eye.

marjen · 16th February 2012, 20:49

I think he's more measured in his approach than Rafael, a better reader of the game. He's not as rash, and probably a better defender.

Rafael probably holds the attacking edge, but I still think Fabio's performance today was better than we've seen from Evra these last few weeks - albeit against slightly inferior opposition.

I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few matches, give Evra a rest and also a nudge to show him that competition is here.

Aint gota Kalou · 16th February 2012, 20:53

Fabio is just a skinnier and slightly less mental version of his brother. This has its advantages and disadvantages.

sidsutton · 16th February 2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by marjen

I think he's more measured in his approach than Rafael, a better reader of the game, and a better reader of the game. He's not as rash, and probably a better defender.

probably a better reader of the game, too, Surprised you didn't mention it.

anything about now · 16th February 2012, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Jimy_Hills_Chin

I think that Fabio won the Golden Shoe in the World Cup or Copa America U15's, yes from the left back position too. He was also Captain if I remember correctly.

Mmm that was when i followed football a lot more closely, and he was scoring goals for fun. i wish i can still find the clips. he scored from outside the box, a free kick, and a header in one game. he is a natural predator when he's near the box, he has that attacking instinct and seems to be more influential on the pitch than his brother back then.

Pogue Mahone · 16th February 2012, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Van Piorsing

He looked like Rafael.

Apparently he's two stone lighter. Looks it too.

Decent performance tonight but a couple of really dodgy moments too. A wee bit rusty maybe? The early CC exit is such a shame. We lost some really useful game time for kids like him and Pogba.

Black Adder · 16th February 2012, 22:05

I like other Rafael better.

MST3K · 17th February 2012, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Van Piorsing

He looked like Rafael.

Yep if he can take Rafael's path of development we are truely sorted

Cutch · 17th February 2012, 00:43

'The Rafael brothers'

Iain Dowie

Cutch · 17th February 2012, 00:48

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Originally Posted by Shimo

I think we can stop with the Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one. 4 years ago, when they first came here, Fabio maybe held the edge but, that has probably gone out the window. That recent interview in the Rafael thread even mentioned that Rafael probably has an advantage now in having bulked up a bit more.

Think Fabio will do just fine and will probably match Rafael but, wouldn't expect him to be the better of the two simply because when they first came 1 was rated a bit higher.

I really hope so, but i suspect in 15 years time people will still ignore every first team game they've played in and point to the U17 tournament that Fabio outshone Rafael in.

Don't get me wrong, i love the 2 of them, but its ridiculous that people still claim Fabio to be the more talented one based on their performances in one U17 tournament.

Raven Blade · 17th February 2012, 00:57

He needs to play more often. His positioning has improved tremendously and we all can see how tightly the twins mark their opponents. They may draw fouls but they make themselves a nuisance to shake off. When he's fit and available we don't need to burn out Evra so much as he's proving he's a capable replacement.

bergen · 17th February 2012, 01:05

on a sidenote... Does anyone know how many games they've actually played together for us? I feel like the number is probably pretty low!

Cutch · 17th February 2012, 01:17

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Originally Posted by bergen

on a sidenote... Does anyone know how many games they've actually played together for us? I feel like the number is probably pretty low!

I stand to be corrected but from memory the number of games that both have started and completed together could be counted on one hand. I would guess 3

bergen · 17th February 2012, 01:22

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Originally Posted by Cutch

I stand to be corrected but from memory the number of games that both have started and completed together could be counted on one hand. I would guess 3

Yeah I only really remember the game when they were in midfield against Arsenal in the FA Cup. Amazing how little they've played together, although Evra and injures are the quick explanations.

Damien1990 · 17th February 2012, 01:25

The twins had an interview recently and in it they said they only played one full game together - Valencia in the Champions League last season.

Laphroaig · 17th February 2012, 01:29

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Originally Posted by #07

Fabio blames Suarez | Sky Sports

""The action of the Uruguayan before the beginning of the match increased our force to defeat Liverpool." That's fucking poetry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutch

'The Rafael brothers'

Iain Dowie

He didn't! He did?

Cutch · 17th February 2012, 01:36

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Originally Posted by Laphroaig

""The action of the Uruguayan before the beginning of the match increased our force to defeat Liverpool." That's fucking poetry.

I cant believe Fabio would say that. He's quiet as a mouse. Clearly was Rafael, who at least played in the match.

Quote:

He didn't! He did?

Nothing Iain Dowie says or does should surprise you. For a fully qualified Aeronautical Engineer he's one hell of a spastic.

SharkyMcShark · 17th February 2012, 01:42

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Originally Posted by bergen

on a sidenote... Does anyone know how many games they've actually played together for us? I feel like the number is probably pretty low!

Off the top of my head, competitive games they've started together

08/09 FA Cup semi final v Everton (the only time they've both started at fullback)
09/10 League Cup v Barnsley (Rafael played in midfield)
09/10 CL v CSKA away (Fabio played in midfield)
10/11 FA Cup v Arsenal (both on the wing)

Can't remember who got subbed off in which match.

Laphroaig · 17th February 2012, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutch

I cant believe Fabio would say that. He's quiet as a mouse. Clearly was Rafael, who at least played in the match.

Nothing Iain Dowie says or does should surprise you. For a fully qualified Aeronautical Engineer he's one hell of a spastic.

Well, clearly it's just a poor translation from Portuguese, but... It's still poetry.

Dowie is "a fully qualified Aeronautical Engineer"?!

cj4_elmo · 18th March 2012, 15:42

Another nice cameo, shame he didn't score.

Neutral · 18th March 2012, 16:09

Pleased to see him get on the pitch...the more talented twin, but injuries and Evra have really set him back.

#07 · 18th March 2012, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Neutral

Pleased to see him get on the pitch...the more talented twin, but injuries and Evra have really set him back.

More talented twin? No way. I actually worry about Fabio he doesn't seem to have made the progress Rafa has not just physically. He was ok today but Kightly treated him very lightly when they were 1 v 1. I think back to the Fabio who made his debut vs Spurs in the FA Cup in 2009 and wonder if he can go back to that level and, better yet, kick on from there.

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6th February 2012, 08:32	#801 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	I'd thrown Fabio in as of now. The defensive frailties of Evra are now too concerning to ignore, and Fabio will contribute similarly going forward.

6th February 2012, 09:29	#802 (permalink)
SharkyMcShark First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own. Posts: 18,586	I wouldn't 'throw' him in, although I'd begin giving him the odd game here and there at LB. He's only played there once for us in the league, ever (opening day this season).

16th February 2012, 07:43	#803 (permalink)
#07 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,073	Fabio blames Suarez \| Sky Sports I like what I'm hearing. With Evra being rested for the Europa league tie tonight I'd like to see Fabio started at left full back. There's an argument that with the way Patrice's form has been lately Fabio should be starting more anyways. I think he deserves an opportunity to remind us what he's capable of this evening.

16th February 2012, 07:58	#804 (permalink)
buckooo1978 First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,026	I think Fergie has said evra won't travel - fabio or fryers will play

16th February 2012, 10:05	#806 (permalink)
unitedbhoy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newry, Co.Down Posts: 2,360	I thought Fabio was injured?

16th February 2012, 19:55	#809 (permalink)
ArmchairCritic First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves. Posts: 6,390	His positioning and anticipation was spot on tonight, overplayed it a few times in possession but he's very good.

16th February 2012, 19:57	#810 (permalink)
KM First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Q.P.R Posts: 14,862	Thought he was our best player in the first half, wasn't that good in the second half but still very promising performance though.

16th February 2012, 20:03	#811 (permalink)
Stobzilla Official Team Perv Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Ham (SM League) Posts: 7,191	I don't think the twins talents have ever been in question, just their ability to stay fit. Hopefully they can both do so for the run in, Fabio in particular so we don't have to use Evra for the Europa games.

16th February 2012, 20:05	#812 (permalink)
Van Piorsing Lost his light sabre Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Polska Posts: 10,578	He looked like Rafael.

16th February 2012, 20:05	#813 (permalink)
anything about now MUFC lad living in a matriel world Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Has an air of inevitibility about it. Fuck - Guz-kop on rawk @ Utd 2-2 Villa Posts: 6,103	Very good and would like to see him given more game time as long as he's fit. That's why Rafael is so immense, he was lucky with injuries for an extended run and went on to become one of the league's best RBs. Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one, and he is so good at attacking that he can easily surpass Evra's best seasons for us.

16th February 2012, 20:06	#814 (permalink)
Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: "Collar turned up, back straight, chest stuck out, he glided into the arena as if he owned the fucking place" Posts: 16,490	He clearly needs games and I hope he gets them this season from time to time

16th February 2012, 20:07	#816 (permalink)
Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country. Posts: 9,120	90 minutes.

16th February 2012, 20:15	#817 (permalink)
Shimo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,968	I think we can stop with the Fabio is supposed to be the more talented one. 4 years ago, when they first came here, Fabio maybe held the edge but, that has probably gone out the window. That recent interview in the Rafael thread even mentioned that Rafael probably has an advantage now in having bulked up a bit more. Think Fabio will do just fine and will probably match Rafael but, wouldn't expect him to be the better of the two simply because when they first came 1 was rated a bit higher.

16th February 2012, 20:18	#819 (permalink)
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysareus.com Posts: 39,438	We don't have to stop saying something that is pretty obvious to the naked eye.

16th February 2012, 20:49	#820 (permalink)
marjen Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 3,625	I think he's more measured in his approach than Rafael, a better reader of the game. He's not as rash, and probably a better defender. Rafael probably holds the attacking edge, but I still think Fabio's performance today was better than we've seen from Evra these last few weeks - albeit against slightly inferior opposition. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few matches, give Evra a rest and also a nudge to show him that competition is here.

16th February 2012, 20:53	#821 (permalink)
Aint gota Kalou Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,469	Fabio is just a skinnier and slightly less mental version of his brother. This has its advantages and disadvantages.

16th February 2012, 22:05	#825 (permalink)
Black Adder Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hrvatska Posts: 1,503	I like other Rafael better.

17th February 2012, 00:43	#827 (permalink)
Cutch Shit stirrer (Literally) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Ireland. W3101, Row 29, Seat 174 Posts: 5,498	'The Rafael brothers' Iain Dowie

17th February 2012, 00:57	#829 (permalink)
Raven Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Red till i'm dead.. Posts: 30,978	He needs to play more often. His positioning has improved tremendously and we all can see how tightly the twins mark their opponents. They may draw fouls but they make themselves a nuisance to shake off. When he's fit and available we don't need to burn out Evra so much as he's proving he's a capable replacement.

17th February 2012, 01:05	#830 (permalink)
bergen Author of gayest thread 07/08 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 6,358	on a sidenote... Does anyone know how many games they've actually played together for us? I feel like the number is probably pretty low!

17th February 2012, 01:25	#833 (permalink)
Damien1990 Self-Aware Redcafe Database (and poster) Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 15,462	The twins had an interview recently and in it they said they only played one full game together - Valencia in the Champions League last season.

18th March 2012, 15:42	#838 (permalink)
cj4_elmo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AKA: Slapanut Goat Smuggla Posts: 3,318	Another nice cameo, shame he didn't score.

18th March 2012, 16:09	#839 (permalink)
Neutral BTV Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC/Canberra/Dhaka Posts: 6,447	Pleased to see him get on the pitch...the more talented twin, but injuries and Evra have really set him back.