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4th February 2012, 20:06
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Hughes is under a sort of obligation to Macheda. Loan spells aren't done with a dartboard, I'm sure there were conversations about his plans for Macheda. Newcastle wasn't required to play Rossi, but SAF was none too pleased with the loan spell, and we haven't loaned a player to Newcastle since.
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4th February 2012, 20:20
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4th February 2012, 20:30
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Regarding calling back Macheda (as some has suggested) I don't think it's actually possible. I think the PL rules state that loans run from transfer window to transfer window, so Macheda is stuck there till summer. |
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4th February 2012, 21:18
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What bad luck for Macheda, after the same thing happening at Sampdoria! |
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4th February 2012, 21:39
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If we can recall Macheda now and send him on loan to the Championship, we should. He's not going to play at QPR now. It's no one's fault. A manager took him on loan and was then sacked, and his replacement has other ideas. Fair enough, as long as they don't insisnt that he stays for nothing. |
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4th February 2012, 21:46
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4th February 2012, 22:31
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The club did not force Macheda's loan move to QPR. He, together with his agent chose the path. United as a club just facilitated the move.
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4th February 2012, 22:37
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United can hardly dictate to another club to play one of their players. Hughes will look after his own, and QPR's interests, and if there are players better at the club it's makes sense he plays them before a loanee.
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4th February 2012, 22:43
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Or even if we kept him ourselves, he'd have about as much chance of playing, with Diouf gone and Owen perma-knacked. |
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4th February 2012, 23:05
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To be honest he needs to be looking for a permanent move. He's not progressed as expected.
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4th February 2012, 23:34
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Could we not ask QPR to loan him to a Championship club, if they don't plan on playing him? I'm pretty sure players have gone on loan from clubs they were on loan to. In fact, I'm almost certain Spurs loaned out a player they had on loan. And I think a Liverpool player went on loan to a club who then loaned him out.
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4th February 2012, 23:57
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5th February 2012, 00:06
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5th February 2012, 00:17
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Surely Macheda needs to man up and fight for a starting place. He's crap. A one trick pony |
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5th February 2012, 00:47
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5th February 2012, 12:25
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He's such a limited player, but the one thing he's always shown signs of being, is a great finisher.
He doesn't have the pace, the strength, the intelligence or the touch to play Premier League football, but he is a good goalscorer. Which makes for a bit of a conoundrum. He'll never be ideal for a club scrapping for survival like QPR though, they need strikers who'll committ defenders and run the channels. As I said at the time, I couldn't belive those that rated Macheda higher than Welbeck. And I stand by that. Macheda will not make it at United, he's just not good enough. However, I sort of feel for the lad. He's had a horrid time on his loan spells, really unlucky, but at the same time he's never shown the will to bite his teeth and fight his way into the team with some great performances. He'll live forever in United folklore for that goal against Villa, but in fact I think that might have done him a disfavour in the long run. |
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5th February 2012, 14:52
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Problem with his development stalling as it has, there is always the next batch of youngsters coming through to take his place. We've seen it before..
Sylvain Blake was followed by Frazier Campbell, then came Welbeck, and now there's Will Keane looking over his shoulder. If you don't do extremely well in these loan spells, its just a matter of time before you get moved on, its just the nature of the beast. |
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25th February 2012, 15:01
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Funnily enough I just bumped into Davide Petrucci and Alberto Massacci on the tube and walked with them to the ground as I was going there too.
Obviously they came to see Macheda. Funny guys, the pair of them actually. Judging by what they were saying they will enjoy their weekend in London anyway!! |
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25th February 2012, 15:04
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sparkys a dick
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25th February 2012, 15:06
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From day one it looked like QPR took him to pad out their squad and that was even before they spent all that money. Unfortunately at that age it's very difficult to play almost no first team football for years on end and still develop.
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25th February 2012, 15:07
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25th February 2012, 19:36
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Sparky is stubborn and will probably never play him just to be a stubborn dick. Macheda blew his chance last year when he went against Fergies wishes and signed for an Italian team! His career has been one big nose dive ever since. Surely we can rip up his contract at QPR if he is not getting games and send to him to Leeds or something!
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25th February 2012, 19:37
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25th February 2012, 19:40
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25th February 2012, 19:43
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Been arguing for the best part of 2-3 season that he really needs a loan to a championship side to really learn his trade properly.
He isn't gonna ever be a starter for any prem side at this stage of his career. |
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25th February 2012, 19:46
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Of course, it's quite possible that he prefered to go to Italy than to join a Championship side, but I don't think he expected how the thing would look in Italy. I'm pretty sure there wasn't any Premier League team interested in him, so he went to Serie A, not to one of The Championship side. You can hardly blame him for going on loan to Sampdoria... |
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25th February 2012, 20:02
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25th February 2012, 20:26
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Whether Fergie wanted Kiko to stay in England or not last year, what we're seeing now is that what happened to him at Sampdoria could also happen in England, so it doesn't really matter. You go on loan, the coach is sacked and everything changes.
I wish we could recall him and send him to the Championship. The loan has become a total waste of time. I can't blame Hughes, though. He was brought in to do a job, he was given money, he added two better strikers. Fair enough. |
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25th February 2012, 22:45
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Where your exaggeration has probably come from is Fergie said he would have rather he went on a domestic loan but Macheda wanted to play in Italy as he felt he wouldn't be noticed by the bosses of the national teams if he was with a small club over here. Or something like that. |
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25th February 2012, 22:48
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27th February 2012, 18:40
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