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Old 31st July 2008, 13:12   #1 (permalink)
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Fraizer Campbell

Brown waiting on Fergie verdict

Hull boss Phil Brown is not hopeful of re-signing Man Utd striker Fraizer Campbell after failing to hear back from the Red Devils.

Brown has asked Old Trafford counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson if he can take the exciting youngster again but the silence has been deafening so far this summer.

The Tigers chief has not given up hope completely and admits it will depend on whether or not United manage to bolster their forward line, with Louis Saha tipped to move on and Spurs ace Dimitar Berbatov the top target.

Brown told the Daily Express: "Sir Alex has his business to do and until he conducts that I'm presuming Fraizer will be a United player this season. We'll have to wait and see."

Campbell scored 15 goals last season as Hull won promotion to the Premier League for the first time.
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Old 31st July 2008, 13:13   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think Campbell will go on loan before January even if we sign another striker.
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Old 31st July 2008, 13:18   #3 (permalink)
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He's so fucking fast that it's almost worth sticking him up front for a few Premiership games just to see what he can do with Michael Carrick behind him.
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Old 31st July 2008, 13:22   #4 (permalink)
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He's so fucking fast that it's almost worth sticking him up front for a few Premiership games just to see what he can do with Michael Carrick behind him.
He is unbelievably quick. Almost worth having a speed-merchant like him in the squad, just for a few minutes here and there.

Combination of Cambell with Rooney and/or (please oh please) Berbatov would really fuck with defenders heads. Push up to deny Roo/Berb space, only for them to slip Campbell through? Or sit deeper and watch Roo/Berb cause havoc in the gap between defense and midfield.

Would be a lethal combination, especially towards the end of games, when everything is getting stretched

Having said all that, reading between the lines it sounds as though Fergie has told Brown we're looking to sign another striker (i.e. Berbatov) and if we succeed, he'll get to hold onto Frazier (hopefully on loan)
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Old 31st July 2008, 13:28   #5 (permalink)
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Campbell is really starting to look like a Manchester United striker to me now. I'd be confident to play him in all but the very biggest games.
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Old 31st July 2008, 14:10   #6 (permalink)
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If all goes to plan, keep him here as our no 5 striker for next season.

Rooney
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Berbatov
Manucho
Campbell

That would mean that a) We sign Berbatov b) Manucho gets his permit c) Saha moves on.
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Old 31st July 2008, 14:12   #7 (permalink)
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we definitely shouldn't sell him. he should go out on loan to hull next year though and get some much needed experience of the top flight of english football. he is not going to improve much sitting on the bench for us, playing the odd 5 minutes here and there. games is what he needs at his age.
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Old 31st July 2008, 19:31   #8 (permalink)
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He´s still a raw player but having someone as fast as him on the bench can be very useful late in games against tired defenders.
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Old 31st July 2008, 19:47   #9 (permalink)
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Brown waiting on Fergie verdict

Hull boss Phil Brown is not hopeful of re-signing Man Utd striker Fraizer Campbell after failing to hear back from the Red Devils.

Brown has asked Old Trafford counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson if he can take the exciting youngster again but the silence has been deafening so far this summer.

The Tigers chief has not given up hope completely and admits it will depend on whether or not United manage to bolster their forward line, with Louis Saha tipped to move on and Spurs ace Dimitar Berbatov the top target.

Brown told the Daily Express: "Sir Alex has his business to do and until he conducts that I'm presuming Fraizer will be a United player this season. We'll have to wait and see."

Campbell scored 15 goals last season as Hull won promotion to the Premier League for the first time.
Whether or not we get a another striker I think we should send him back on loan to Hull for the season. I dont think we should sell he obviously has alot of talent but he really needs first team football to develop he won't get that here even if we dont buy anyone. As for Hull I think this would benefit them too if they only stay up for a year they won't have spent a big fee for them a committed to a long term contract they find difficult to live up to if they were to go back down.
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Old 31st July 2008, 20:24   #10 (permalink)
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If all goes to plan, keep him here as our no 5 striker for next season.

Rooney
Tevez
Berbatov
Manucho
Campbell

That would mean that a) We sign Berbatov b) Manucho gets his permit c) Saha moves on.
What are people basing their opinion on Manucho on? no one knows if he is in fact cack
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Old 31st July 2008, 21:02   #11 (permalink)
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I'd like Campy on loan to Hull City again.

Premiership action, first team, developing steadily for when a spot is available.
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Old 31st July 2008, 21:05   #12 (permalink)
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I'd like Campy on loan to Hull City again.

Premiership action, first team, developing steadily for when a spot is available.
I second this, he has another good season with Hull but this time in the PL then I can just about see him possiby making it at OT, i'd like to think so anyway.
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Old 31st July 2008, 21:06   #13 (permalink)
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If we don't get berbatov or any other new striker he should stay.
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Old 31st July 2008, 21:08   #14 (permalink)
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So how fast is this guy? Like an 18 year old Michael Owen?
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Old 31st July 2008, 21:09   #15 (permalink)
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If we don't get berbatov or any other new striker he should stay.
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Old 31st July 2008, 23:28   #16 (permalink)
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Would be good to have him just in case we needed him one game, but on the other hand if we want him to progress and be brilliant for us in the future he needs regular playing. Loaning him again to Hull would be a good move.
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Old 31st July 2008, 23:35   #17 (permalink)
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What are people basing their opinion on Manucho on? no one knows if he is in fact cack
If you saw him during the african nations and playing briefly for panathinikos then you'd know that he can come to OT and do a good job. He would at least offer us excellent power in the air.
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He´s still a raw player but having someone as fast as him on the bench can be very useful late in games against tired defenders.
Exactly. Me thinks he should stay for that reason. He'd be a great weapon off the bench along with men like Giggs.
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I would be dissapointed to sell him without giving him a chance. He may need prem experience or loan, but he wouldnt do too badly to be our 4th choice striker for a season, getting the odd game here and there without too much pressure.
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Old 1st August 2008, 01:39   #20 (permalink)
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So how fast is this guy? Like an 18 year old Michael Owen?
If only he could finish like an 18 year old owen. He's a little way off but even if he went on loan, it could be the making of him. We'll see
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Old 1st August 2008, 01:56   #21 (permalink)
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He'd develop best on loan to a premiership club where he'd be first choice. Being relied on to play every week and grabbing himself 8-10 premiership goals next season would do him the world of good and he'd come back an established player who can push for first team football.

Coming on in the last 10 minutes of matches wont develop him much as a player.
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He'll struggle to get a game at United, then we will loan him to a Premiership side and January and after scoring 5 or 6 goals on loan he will be sold to the same club for £6m.
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He´s still a raw player but having someone as fast as him on the bench can be very useful late in games against tired defenders.
I agree. Don't loan him out.

For a start you never know what's going to happen with injuries, the lads got pace to burn and age on his side.
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He'll struggle to get a game at United, then we will loan him to a Premiership side and January and after scoring 5 or 6 goals on loan he will be sold to the same club for £6m.
probably will happen like that
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Old 2nd August 2008, 19:04   #27 (permalink)
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SAF said Frazier's future was at United. They didn't have many strikers, only Rooney and Tevez so United needed Frazier. Looks like he is definitely staying if we don't get Berbatov.
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We're allowed 7 subs on the bench this season remember.... FC's going to be the ace in the pack coming off the bench for us in the last 15mins of a game. Keep him.
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Old 2nd August 2008, 19:15   #30 (permalink)
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We're allowed 7 subs on the bench this season remember.... FC's going to be the ace in the pack coming off the bench for us in the last 15mins of a game. Keep him.
I think it'd be bad for his development. He's at a really crucial stage where playing every game in the PL, as he would do at Hull, would really bring him to another level.

BUT I can see why we will need to keep him. With Ronaldo out and Nani suspended he would probably be the only player available to us with fantastic pace at the start of the season. So we really may need him as an option from the bench.

If we did sign Berbatov then maybe we could loan him out from August 31st when Nani will be available again.
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So how fast is this guy? Like an 18 year old Michael Owen?
reminds me of young Saha,mainly because if his pace and style of play.
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I think it'd be bad for his development. He's at a really crucial stage where playing every game in the PL, as he would do at Hull, would really bring him to another level.

BUT I can see why we will need to keep him. With Ronaldo out and Nani suspended he would probably be the only player available to us with fantastic pace at the start of the season. So we really may need him as an option from the bench.

If we did sign Berbatov then maybe we could loan him out from August 31st when Nani will be available again.
I think he'll get quite a good number of games if we fail to get Berbatov though. Carling Cup, maybe FA Cup, sub appearances in the Prem plus if either Tevez or Rooney is injured and we wanna play 442. Could play a big part. If he were to do really well at Hull he might not wanna come back to be a bit part player also. That should be considered.
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He's lightening quick, and it looks like he's only going to get faster, as his body has yet to fill out!

I'd definately say he's bordering on Owen levels atm...
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Old 2nd August 2008, 19:33   #34 (permalink)
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He's lightening quick, and it looks like he's only going to get faster, as his body has yet to fill out!

I'd definately say he's bordering on Owen levels atm...
He does not so far look anywhere near as good a finisher as the young Michael Owen. And that's the most important thing.
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Campbell should stay here whether we sign Berbatov or not. We need for forwards this season. Saha isn't in contention to do squat for us and I doubt Manhucho will get that work permit.
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He'll struggle to get a game at United, then we will loan him to a Premiership side and January and after scoring 5 or 6 goals on loan he will be sold to the same club for £6m.
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He does not so far look anywhere near as good a finisher as the young Michael Owen. And that's the most important thing.
He's not on Owen's level of finishing yet thats certain but todays goal even if only a testimonial shows he has the ability to finish off a chance with a cool head. He didnt rush just let the keeper go to ground then slotted it home. I was impressed I expected him to do a bellion on it. Cant knock em for slotting it away as he did had it been Ole we would be saying class finish as usual from 20Legend
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Campbell should stay here whether we sign Berbatov or not. We need for forwards this season. Saha isn't in contention to do squat for us and I doubt Manhucho will get that work permit.
We don't need four forwards as last season proved. Ronaldo can play up front, Welbeck's another year older and could play a few games and Saha would be available sometimes..
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He's not on Owen's level of finishing yet thats certain but todays goal even if only a testimonial shows he has the ability to finish off a chance with a cool head. He didnt rush just let the keeper go to ground then slotted it home. I was impressed I expected him to do a bellion on it. Cant knock em for slotting it away as he did had it been Ole we would be saying class finish as usual from 20Legend
Look at his finishing in the LSC game during the week (video in the ressie thread). Diabolical finishing. I think he's going to be like this for a long time to come. He'll score a goal like today that makes him look like a natural finisher, and then he'll miss a few sitters in the next game.

Really, it'd be better for him to grow his game at another PL team for a season. Miss a sitter for Hull and everyone says what's it matter, Hull are going down anyway. Hull love him for helping them get promoted so they'll not be dropping him after one poor performance. Miss a sitter for United and the media will start a witchunt against you. Fergie maybe won't trust you again for a while.

There's real talent there, but he's at a real fragile stage in his career. Going to Hull and learning his trade against PL defences would be the proper preparation for playing regularly for United.
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I think he needs regular first team football in order to develop more than we need him next season.

Sure, he'd be handy coming off the bench at the end of a match if we dont have that option from Berbatov or Manucho, but we dont need him that much if they both arrive.

On the other hand, he'll improve immeasurably after a full season of games in the premiership, scoring goals every other week. He'd come back a much better player who would have a lot bigger chance of making it at the club. Its quite possible he could come back ready to seriously challenge Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Manucho or whoever else for their starting spot.

But he's nowhere near that right now. And he wont be come the end of the season if he gets less than 15 starts next season.
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