Frazier Campbell

fearghal · 24th July 2008, 20:24

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Originally Posted by since 1987

Ok, at which type of club do u think he will end up a ? A team that always fights to avoid relegation as Wigan or a mid prem team as Reading?

Striker10 · 24th July 2008, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Classy Cannon

I agree with what the Chief said at the start of the thread - he is similar to a young Etoo. Whether we keep him, or let him go on loan will probably depend on whether we get Berbatov.

the problem with that is you create a needless expectation. Campbell doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath, yet.If he proves himself, progresses then maybe but at the moment he's just a boy trying to prove himself

Classy Cannon · 24th July 2008, 20:47

I don't see a problem with saying he's similar, it doesn't mean he will become as good a player, just that the few times I've seen him I've thought 'he really reminds me of Etoo'. I think the similarities make it worth giving him a chance to prove himself & I'd prefer for that to be at Utd surrounded by & learning from brilliant players than at a lesser club.

rotherham_red · 24th July 2008, 21:54

Touch is very sharp, control is good, vision is very decent for someone who plays in his position, and his technique is much like his vision in the sense that it belies someone whose primary aim should first and foremost be to get in the box and on the end of crosses...

If I were to compare him to anyone, it would be to Saha, but with the workrate of a Rooney...

Drifter · 25th July 2008, 07:30

Man Utd's Campbell as good as Beckham, Scholes

Former Manchester United youth coach Eric Harrison says Fraizer Campbell can be a huge success at Old Trafford.

Harrison insists Campbell is as good as any of the young players he worked with during his 25 years at Old Trafford.

He told the Hull Daily Mail: "He has been training with United's first team every day and he will have benefited from that.

"The training is very intense and competitive so it will prepare him well for playing in the Premier League.

"Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the best managers for recognising and developing the talent in young players."

manusteve · 25th July 2008, 08:52

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Originally Posted by rotherham_red

Touch is very sharp, control is good, vision is very decent for someone who plays in his position, and his technique is much like his vision in the sense that it belies someone whose primary aim should first and foremost be to get in the box and on the end of crosses...

If I were to compare him to anyone, it would be to Saha, but with the workrate of a Rooney...

Very fast.
First touch not good.
Awareness so-so.
But very promising indeed, hope to see more of him.

SmashedHombre · 25th July 2008, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Man Utd's Campbell as good as Beckham, Scholes

Former Manchester United youth coach Eric Harrison says Fraizer Campbell can be a huge success at Old Trafford.

Harrison insists Campbell is as good as any of the young players he worked with during his 25 years at Old Trafford.

He told the Hull Daily Mail: "He has been training with United's first team every day and he will have benefited from that.

"The training is very intense and competitive so it will prepare him well for playing in the Premier League.

"Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the best managers for recognising and developing the talent in young players."

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Originally Posted by jacoplane

http://www.sporthull.co.uk/football/...le.php?ID=7600

Is he good enough for us yet? Or should he be sent out on loan again?

These articles both have the exact same quotes, yet they both have two completely different headlines and the funny thing is both the headlines are fabricated bollocks.

red2deadboy · 25th July 2008, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber

He plays more like a young E'too than anyone else I can think off. Same physique and playing style as E'too as a youngster. In terms of skill on the ball, pace, confidence, aggression and off the ball running. His finishing is also like E'too's was at that age. Good to inane. Yet see the type of player E'too eventually became! If we are patient with him. I think he can develop into a similar gem. As his build gets stronger, he will be a fantastic player IMHO.

Get the fella into to the gym to work on upper body strength needed to fend off prem defender and ensure he works on finishing and most importantly, 1st touch. I would sooooo love it if we had a worldclass finisher to emerge from the youth ranks.

redspoony · 25th July 2008, 10:05

He looks like he has a fair amount of talent, but he won't make it at OT unless Fergie places a bit of faith in him and throws him on now and then. I firmly believe we need 4 strikers, and if Saha stays fit and we don't buy anyone else, then Campbell and Wellbeck can compete for that 4th striker. If we sign another, ie Berbatov, then maybe Saha will go (or be injured) and Campbell and Wellbeck still get to compete. Either way, I think he's worth a gamble.

Crustanoid · 25th July 2008, 10:40

Exactly. I tend to think Striker is one of the safest positions to blood a youngster in the first-team because if he starts slowly the worst that will happen is that he doesn't score and is subbed off. In our team goals don't just come from the forward position, the midfielders get loads of them inc Ronaldo so is not as much of a risk. If you put an inexperienced Centre Back or Goalkeeper in the damage could be a lot worse - remember that guy Stepanovs who Wenger played against us.

There is no reason why Campbell or Wellbeck should not play 20 games next season

But we all know it won't happen

KingEric7 · 25th July 2008, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Man Utd's Campbell as good as Beckham, Scholes

Former Manchester United youth coach Eric Harrison says Fraizer Campbell can be a huge success at Old Trafford.

Harrison insists Campbell is as good as any of the young players he worked with during his 25 years at Old Trafford.

He told the Hull Daily Mail: "He has been training with United's first team every day and he will have benefited from that.

"The training is very intense and competitive so it will prepare him well for playing in the Premier League.

"Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the best managers for recognising and developing the talent in young players."

Journalists!

Red Hand Devil · 25th July 2008, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Not laying into you, mate, just saying you shouldn't be too harsh on the lad after a couple of pre-season games. I watched him a fair few times for Hull last season and he looks class.

Agree with everything you say here, mind you, I can definitely see the argument for another season on loan and I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if that's where he ends up.

Yeah maybe i'm just expecting too much too quick from him, i'm just looking for that bit of magic that i think he has!

I totally agree with ya regarding Campbell staying & not going on loan. I'm open to changing my opinions, and i have to say - i've been converted by the "keep him" corner!

Its about time we just threw one of these lads in at the deep end & Frasier could just be the man we've been waiting for to make the break-through into the first team!

Crazy that its been 10yrs since we had a first team regular coming through the ranks in Wes Brown!

jacoplane · 27th July 2008, 20:36

Campbell scored against Kaizer Chiefs (he scored the 4-0, goal is around 3:30)

Epic · 27th July 2008, 20:45

On various sites and even in FM Campbell's parametres are 1.74cm height and 84kg weight.

This can't be right. He doesn't look like a fat bastard.

davisjw · 27th July 2008, 22:11

Thought he played well today, great pace some good touches but man he needs to learn to use his left foot. He had two fantastic chances he should of buried but wouldn't use the left. Has great potential, hope we see more of him this season.

Raven_Blade · 27th July 2008, 22:14

His pace can be a real asset to us. If he doesnt go on loan again then it would be nice for him to stay here.

Ekeke · 27th July 2008, 22:16

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Originally Posted by davisjw

Thought he played well today, great pace some good touches but man he needs to learn to use his left foot. He had two fantastic chances he should of buried but wouldn't use the left. Has great potential, hope we see more of him this season.

Had a few moments. Needs to work on his positioning obviously, to create even more of these. Yeah his left foot isnt his strong point and he's still going down a little lightly. But its plain to see he has some great raw pace and can cause a problem when needed.

Name Changed · 27th July 2008, 22:21

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Originally Posted by jacoplane

http://www.sporthull.co.uk/football/...le.php?ID=7600

Is he good enough for us yet? Or should he be sent out on loan again?

He'd be a decent sub to bring on. I doubt he has the quality to ever be a regular starter at United. But he is an option to have and considering we actually have NO other alternitives up front then he is worth keeping.

charleysurf · 27th July 2008, 22:24

He really needs a loan to someone like Hull to get some regular PL experience. He has potential but the odd sub experience would not be enough to develop him at this crucial stage in his career.

FlawlessThaw · 27th July 2008, 22:26

I'd keep him till January - then assess how needed he really is and then send him on loan if he isn't really. We did the exact same thing with Evans

charleysurf · 27th July 2008, 22:29

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

I'd keep him till January - then assess how needed he really is and then send him on loan if he isn't really. We did the exact same thing with Evans

I reckon we'll keep him until August 31st anyway as we're short the pace of the likes of Nani and Ronaldo early in the season.

samabachan · 28th July 2008, 00:42

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Originally Posted by charleysurf

He really needs a loan to someone like Hull to get some regular PL experience. He has potential but the odd sub experience would not be enough to develop him at this crucial stage in his career.

On the other hand if we don't get Berbatov and Saha is still dead then he will be 3rd choice striker and should get plenty of games.

Makki · 28th July 2008, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Epic

On various sites and even in FM Campbell's parametres are 1.74cm height and 84kg weight.

This can't be right. He doesn't look like a fat bastard.

Could be a typo and then others have used that typo as a source?

Man-United · 28th July 2008, 01:17

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Originally Posted by samabachan

On the other hand if we don't get Berbatov and Saha is still dead then he will be 3rd choice striker and should get plenty of games.

And also staying at United and train with Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs and Scholes everyday will also help him.

Widnes · 28th July 2008, 03:01

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Originally Posted by Red Hand Devil

Yeah maybe i'm just expecting too much too quick from him, i'm just looking for that bit of magic that i think he has!

I totally agree with ya regarding Campbell staying & not going on loan. I'm open to changing my opinions, and i have to say - i've been converted by the "keep him" corner!

Its about time we just threw one of these lads in at the deep end & Frasier could just be the man we've been waiting for to make the break-through into the first team!

Crazy that its been 10yrs since we had a first team regular coming through the ranks in Wes Brown!

What about O'shea & Fletcher? they may not have played a awful lot last season but they have been part of the 1st team squad for many years now.

Alex · 28th July 2008, 03:03

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Originally Posted by Crustanoid

Exactly. I tend to think Striker is one of the safest positions to blood a youngster in the first-team because if he starts slowly the worst that will happen is that he doesn't score and is subbed off. In our team goals don't just come from the forward position, the midfielders get loads of them inc Ronaldo so is not as much of a risk. If you put an inexperienced Centre Back or Goalkeeper in the damage could be a lot worse - remember that guy Stepanovs who Wenger played against us.

There is no reason why Campbell or Wellbeck should not play 20 games next season

But we all know it won't happen

Well said crusty

24th July 2008, 20:47	#43 (permalink)
Classy Cannon Left Back in the changing room Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,073	I don't see a problem with saying he's similar, it doesn't mean he will become as good a player, just that the few times I've seen him I've thought 'he really reminds me of Etoo'. I think the similarities make it worth giving him a chance to prove himself & I'd prefer for that to be at Utd surrounded by & learning from brilliant players than at a lesser club.

24th July 2008, 21:54	#44 (permalink)
rotherham_red Reserve Team Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,170	Touch is very sharp, control is good, vision is very decent for someone who plays in his position, and his technique is much like his vision in the sense that it belies someone whose primary aim should first and foremost be to get in the box and on the end of crosses... If I were to compare him to anyone, it would be to Saha, but with the workrate of a Rooney...

25th July 2008, 07:30	#45 (permalink)
Drifter First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,396	Man Utd's Campbell as good as Beckham, Scholes Former Manchester United youth coach Eric Harrison says Fraizer Campbell can be a huge success at Old Trafford. Harrison insists Campbell is as good as any of the young players he worked with during his 25 years at Old Trafford. He told the Hull Daily Mail: "He has been training with United's first team every day and he will have benefited from that. "The training is very intense and competitive so it will prepare him well for playing in the Premier League. "Sir Alex Ferguson is one of the best managers for recognising and developing the talent in young players."

25th July 2008, 10:05	#49 (permalink)
redspoony Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their fucking perch. And you can print that" - Sir Alex Ferguson Posts: 1,813	He looks like he has a fair amount of talent, but he won't make it at OT unless Fergie places a bit of faith in him and throws him on now and then. I firmly believe we need 4 strikers, and if Saha stays fit and we don't buy anyone else, then Campbell and Wellbeck can compete for that 4th striker. If we sign another, ie Berbatov, then maybe Saha will go (or be injured) and Campbell and Wellbeck still get to compete. Either way, I think he's worth a gamble.

25th July 2008, 10:40	#50 (permalink)
Crustanoid Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancs Posts: 2,460	Exactly. I tend to think Striker is one of the safest positions to blood a youngster in the first-team because if he starts slowly the worst that will happen is that he doesn't score and is subbed off. In our team goals don't just come from the forward position, the midfielders get loads of them inc Ronaldo so is not as much of a risk. If you put an inexperienced Centre Back or Goalkeeper in the damage could be a lot worse - remember that guy Stepanovs who Wenger played against us. There is no reason why Campbell or Wellbeck should not play 20 games next season But we all know it won't happen

27th July 2008, 20:36	#53 (permalink)
jacoplane Youth Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Geneva, Switzerland Posts: 261	Campbell scored against Kaizer Chiefs (he scored the 4-0, goal is around 3:30)

27th July 2008, 20:45	#54 (permalink)
Epic First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: no man's land Posts: 6,042	On various sites and even in FM Campbell's parametres are 1.74cm height and 84kg weight. This can't be right. He doesn't look like a fat bastard.

27th July 2008, 22:11	#55 (permalink)
davisjw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,293	Thought he played well today, great pace some good touches but man he needs to learn to use his left foot. He had two fantastic chances he should of buried but wouldn't use the left. Has great potential, hope we see more of him this season.

27th July 2008, 22:14	#56 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In Man Utd's Defence. Posts: 18,234	His pace can be a real asset to us. If he doesnt go on loan again then it would be nice for him to stay here.

27th July 2008, 22:24	#59 (permalink)
charleysurf Talks sense Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,549	He really needs a loan to someone like Hull to get some regular PL experience. He has potential but the odd sub experience would not be enough to develop him at this crucial stage in his career.

27th July 2008, 22:26	#60 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 10,545	I'd keep him till January - then assess how needed he really is and then send him on loan if he isn't really. We did the exact same thing with Evans