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Old 25th August 2008, 18:17   #1 (permalink)
 
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Giggs: Will This Be His Last Season?

I got a feeling it will .

He'll be 35 in November and I doubt that he'll continue after this season ends.

I've been very critical of anyone who criticized him last season, because I realize that I'm gonna watched less and less of him until he retired, and I wonder why some United fans can't just enjoy the fact that he still can play for us.

He may be frustrating to watch lately but fuck me, if there's one player who earn the right to be frustrating it's him. I think it's quite fitting that he was the one who scored the goal that confirm our league title, and scored that final penalty in Moscow.

God, it'll be fucking sweet if he retired with 11 Premiership trophies under his belt.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:19   #2 (permalink)
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he will play until he wins an 11th Premier League title.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:20   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't realise he was that old.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:21   #4 (permalink)
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If we win the Premiership this season, i reckon he'll bow out.

If we don't, i reckon he'll stick around for one more season.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:24   #5 (permalink)
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I didn't realise he was that old.
34 is not old.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:24   #6 (permalink)
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I reckon he will stay for next season but play a small role.

He could just wait and go when Fergie goes.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:24   #7 (permalink)
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I hope he'll take one more season. His last game was uplifting. Will probably be a brilliant coach, his experience is second to none.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:27   #8 (permalink)
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I hope so.

I wonder what he'll do after. Solskjaer's assistant for the academy?
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:34   #9 (permalink)
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34 is not old.
In football terms it is
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last season please, its like watching a heavy weight champion who is shot, he isnt tarnishing his reputation, but itss alway better to go out on a high and be remembered for the good times.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:41   #11 (permalink)
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last season please, its like watching a heavy weight champion who is shot, he isnt tarnishing his reputation, but itss alway better to go out on a high and be remembered for the good times.
I've never understood that argument, the same was said when Eric called it quits. Eric wasn't motivated any more, fair enough, IMO SAF has proven that he knows when it's time to let players go, I'd love to see Giggs play next season too. Although preferably in a more central role.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:47   #12 (permalink)
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I fucking love him. In my eyes, he is above the likes of Cantona and Keane in the all time greats list for this club. He is Manchester United.
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Old 25th August 2008, 18:58   #13 (permalink)
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Giggs will continue to be a part of the squad for a couple of more years. Fergie will ensure that. His experience will be invaluable since the rest of our attackers are less than 25 yrs old.

I guess Fergie, Giggs and Scholes will call it a day after the next season . Maybe Ronaldo would move on too and the new manager will have the toughest job in the footballing world.

Hoping he would be ready to take over by then -

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Old 25th August 2008, 19:00   #14 (permalink)
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He is no longer able to beat players on the wing but his vision and position playing more centrally means that he can still do a job for us even it is to come of the bench to enable one of the new superstars to be rested. I'm not even sure he could even be classed as an impact player.

He is a legend who even surpasses Ole and for that he deserves respect. I think he will know when his time is up and will not want to spoil his reputation with many poor displays.

11 titles to match his squad number would be a fitting finale.
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Old 25th August 2008, 19:06   #15 (permalink)
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I see Giggs still playing for United with a Bobby Charlton comeover or at least a News of the World back page ad for "Mane" spray on hair.
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Giggs will continue to be a part of the squad for a couple of more years. Fergie will ensure that. His experience will be invaluable since the rest of our attackers are less than 25 yrs old.

I guess Fergie, Giggs and Scholes will call it a day after the next season . Maybe Ronaldo would move on too and the new manager will have the toughest job in the footballing world.

Hoping he would be ready to take over by then -

Now that would be a cock out moment if there ever was one! Still he has a lot to prove as a manager, there's no doubt about his mental capabilities though.
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He tried so hard against Newcastle, maybe it's his last. Sad to see him go.
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Old 25th August 2008, 19:18   #18 (permalink)
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Now that would be a cock out moment if there ever was one! Still he has a lot to prove as a manager, there's no doubt about his mental capabilities though.
How many proven young managers are there around ? What experience did Rijkaard have when he guided Barca to consecutive league and a CL title ? What experience did Klinsmann have before he managed Germany ? How much of experience did Van Basten have before he coached his national side ?

Who are the proven young managers around who are capable of managing such a high profile club ? Keane has the personality, winning mentality and is revered by the fans. Supporters will perhaps be more patient with him than anyone new and the one thing that a new manager will need is time.
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How many proven young managers are there around ? What experience did Rijkaard have when he guided Barca to consecutive league and a CL title ? What experience did Klinsmann have before he managed Germany ? How much of experience did Van Basten have before he coached his national side ?

Who are the proven young managers around who are capable of managing United ? Keane has the personality, winning mentality and is revered by the fans. Supporters will perhaps be more patient with him than anyone new.
I agree the personality should be the main issue (personality-wise Keano is a straight swap from Fergie), Keano's experience as player is also a tremendous plus, but still Utd is a different club from when SAF took over. I'd still be jittery about having Keane at the reins now, luckily SAF isn't ready to quit just yet so Keane still has time to prove his worth. ATM, Gus Hiddink and Queiroz are obvious candidates who could do a job instantly.
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I agree the personality should be the main issue (personality-wise Keano is a straight swap from Fergie), Keano's experience as player is also a tremendous plus, but still Utd is a different club from when SAF took over. I'd still be jittery about having Keane at the reins now, luckily SAF isn't ready to quit just yet so Keane still has time to prove his worth. ATM, Gus Hiddink and Queiroz are obvious candidates who could do a job instantly.
I'd rather we appoint someone who can be the manager for 10+ years and give him time to succeed rather than a short term replacement.

Hiddink hasnt managed any high profile clubs and Queiroz is a good coach, not necessarily a good manager.
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Old 25th August 2008, 19:36   #21 (permalink)
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If he plays like he did last week against Newcastle all season long no way should this be his last season
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if we win the epl (his 11th) then he will definitely retire
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Best from the bench these days for me, but he has a place here as long as he and Fergie wants it for me, as he still has the ability to influence a game, although not as regularly as he once did.

Absolute legend, the true definition of the word infact.

It has been a pleasure to watch him play over the years.
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I'd rather we appoint someone who can be the manager for 10+ years and give him time to succeed rather than a short term replacement.

Hiddink hasnt managed any high profile clubs and Queiroz is a good coach, not necessarily a good manager.
I think Queiroz would be a very good manager for us, he's a bit dull, but most smart people I've some across are anyway. It's no coincidence that our defence has been so tight under him, and he's also got a great network in Portugal and Africa. He knows his tactics and obviously can develop players, the uncertainty for me would be his man-management and how he can handle the pressure. Watching from outside I think he has all the credentials. As for Hiddink, IMO he's got a lot of the same the qualities as Queiroz, I'd trust them both with the position. The only draw back is their age, this is where Keano and Sparky holds the edge IMO, as you say the best option would be to have a manager for several years and no short term solution.
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How many proven young managers are there around ? What experience did Rijkaard have when he guided Barca to consecutive league and a CL title ? What experience did Klinsmann have before he managed Germany ? How much of experience did Van Basten have before he coached his national side ?

Who are the proven young managers around who are capable of managing such a high profile club ? Keane has the personality, winning mentality and is revered by the fans. Supporters will perhaps be more patient with him than anyone new and the one thing that a new manager will need is time.
Apples and oranges.

Rijkaard won the CL with a team consisting of Xavi, Messi, Guily, Deco, Eto and at the time the peerless Ronaldinho. I could win the CL with that team. Anyone can roll in the good times, how about the bad? How's that worked for him? 2 woeful seasons, he's displayed poor man management, poor tactics and poor transfer acumen.

Klinsman led a Germany with huge home advantage and a winning mentality to the Semis of the world cup. Considering the team he had at the time, again not a lot of a challenge when you're riding a wave of national euphoria and not a lot of tough games to get by, who was their toughest competition, Argentina? Who should have sewn up that match until their chicken shit of a coach removed Riquelme and put in Cambiasso immediately allowing Germany to be less cautios about his through balls and forward play.

MVB has made the dutch a boring team to watch, very pragmatic side, yes they win matches in the qualifying rounds and in the early rounds, but they always trip up over the knockouts, hardly much of a winning mentality there.
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If this year is his last then we better make it extra special, again. Ryan Giggs will go down in history for his contributions to english football. Enjoy every moment because we have been watching a living legend.
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Apples and oranges.

Rijkaard won the CL with a team consisting of Xavi, Messi, Guily, Deco, Eto and at the time the peerless Ronaldinho. I could win the CL with that team. Anyone can roll in the good times, how about the bad? How's that worked for him? 2 woeful seasons, he's displayed poor man management, poor tactics and poor transfer acumen.

Klinsman led a Germany with huge home advantage and a winning mentality to the Semis of the world cup. Considering the team he had at the time, again not a lot of a challenge when you're riding a wave of national euphoria and not a lot of tough games to get by, who was their toughest competition, Argentina? Who should have sewn up that match until their chicken shit of a coach removed Riquelme and put in Cambiasso immediately allowing Germany to be less cautios about his through balls and forward play.

MVB has made the dutch a boring team to watch, very pragmatic side, yes they win matches in the qualifying rounds and in the early rounds, but they always trip up over the knockouts, hardly much of a winning mentality there.
Is a team of Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Carrick and Anderson any inferior to that one? No fucking way.
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Is a team of Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Carrick and Anderson any inferior to that one? No fucking way.
Definitely not inferior, but i don't think this current team is any better than that team.

The difference is that this team is full of youth, most of Barca's team were just about peaking at that time.
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Is a team of Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Carrick and Anderson any inferior to that one? No fucking way.
Eto better more prolific than Rooney

Ronaldinho at the top of his game was easily better than Ronaldo right now

Xavi is a better midfielder than Carrick, only Scholes matches him in passing.

Deco is streets ahead of Anderson, he would be given Anderson's age.

I spose we could compare Tevez to Messi or Guily, no contest of comparing to Messi and Tevez is better than Guily.

That team at the top of its game came to Stamford bridge and comprehensively owned Chelsea on a potato patch deliberately made to try stop Barca passing. When have we ever gone to the Bridge and owned Chelsea post-Abramovich.
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Eto better more prolific than Rooney

Ronaldinho at the top of his game was easily better than Ronaldo right now

Xavi is a better midfielder than Carrick, only Scholes matches him in passing.

Deco is streets ahead of Anderson, he would be given Anderson's age.

I spose we could compare Tevez to Messi or Guily, no contest of comparing to Messi and Tevez is better than Guily.
Our defence and goalkeeper are a lot better though, which is where it evens itself out.
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