Hansen: "Fergie = Paisley, lol"

jasonrh · 13th May 2008, 18:42

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Originally Posted by gaffs

But Paisley has 3 European Cups in his 8 year period

He happened to manage the best English club at a time when English clubs were THE dominant force in Europe, and in a competition that really honestly was a lot easier to navigate than the current CL format.

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 18:47

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

He happened to manage the best English club at a time when English clubs were THE dominant force in Europe, and in a competition that really honestly was a lot easier to navigate than the current CL format.

Weren't some German clubs pretty strong back then?

Mozza · 13th May 2008, 18:51

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

Four? I count three.

93-97
99-03
06-? (current crop)

Are you counting the 89-92 side? Not dominant but did win a couple trophies.

At the end of 94 season the team changed completely with the kids coming in

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Mozza

At the end of 94 season the team changed completely with the kids coming in

'95... but the core was intact for quite some time... the likes of Beckham and Scholes hit their strides from 99-03 when United had new defenders, keepers, forwards, etc. The 93-97 timeframe was pretty much the same key players.

Schmeichel (99)
Parker (96) [replaced by Gazza around 95)
Bruce (96)
Pallister (98)
Irwin (02)
Kanchelskis (95) [replaced by Beckham in 95]
Keane(05)
Ince (95) [replaced by Butt in 95]
Giggs (??) [had forced Sharpe, 96, to the bench]
Cantona (97)
Hughes (95) [Cole's arrival made him expendable]

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 19:02

I see it this way... SAF has been around for 22 years (21 full years)... and say he sticks around through 2010 that's approximately 24 years in charge. So divide his tenure into quarters.

87-92: FAC, CWC, LC, SC
93-98: 4 PL, 2 FAC
99-04: 4 PL, 2 FAC, EC, IC
05-10: 2 PL, LC, more to come

jasonrh · 13th May 2008, 19:08

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Originally Posted by MrMarcello

Weren't some German clubs pretty strong back then?

In nine years seven European Cups were won by English teams, and another of those times an English team was in the final.

If that isn't total domination by a single nation then I don't know what is.

MrMarcello · 13th May 2008, 19:23

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Originally Posted by jasonrh

In nine years seven European Cups were won by English teams, and another of those times an English team was in the final.

If that isn't total domination by a single nation then I don't know what is.

True, winning the cups speaks volumes of the league (and the competition faced). But there were quite a few German clubs winning cup finals and losing them during the same time. The English leagues had more clubs winning the silverware.

RedPhil1957 · 13th May 2008, 19:30

Fergie also turned Aberdeen to the best side in Scotland and that's pretty incredible as well.

MUFCgal · 13th May 2008, 21:51

Sir Alex Ferguson - most successful manager in English football history......enough said

Suedesi · 13th May 2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Plechazunga

Alan Hansen's column

By Alan Hansen
BBC Sport football expert

Alan Hansen was on the golf course stating the obvious to BBC Sport's Phil McNulty

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7395889.stm

13th May 2008, 19:02	#45 (permalink)
MrMarcello First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Saha's hospital room Posts: 18,688	I see it this way... SAF has been around for 22 years (21 full years)... and say he sticks around through 2010 that's approximately 24 years in charge. So divide his tenure into quarters. 87-92: FAC, CWC, LC, SC 93-98: 4 PL, 2 FAC 99-04: 4 PL, 2 FAC, EC, IC 05-10: 2 PL, LC, more to come

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RedPhil1957 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: lincs. Posts: 4,209	Fergie also turned Aberdeen to the best side in Scotland and that's pretty incredible as well.

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MUFCgal Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 3,412	Sir Alex Ferguson - most successful manager in English football history......enough said