Hargreaves fitness

711 · 4th May 2008, 00:19

It seems to have gone unremarked, but Hargreaves is beginning to clock up the games, and is looking seriously fit.

What a damned good thing this is. I have to say the tendonitis thing really worried me, and if he is managing to shake it off then what a step forward for United.

Raven_Blade · 4th May 2008, 00:40

We work our players hard to help them achieve their full potential. Hargreaves needs to perform 2 more times then he will have the whole summer to rest and recover.

Simon Adebesi · 4th May 2008, 00:43

Nice big gaps between the remaining games as well. I just mentioned that in another thread. Hargreaves will definitely be a beneficiary of that.

The Hairdryer · 4th May 2008, 00:56

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Originally Posted by 711

It seems to have gone unremarked, but Hargreaves is beginning to clock up the games, and is looking seriously fit.

What a damned good thing this is. I have to say the tendonitis thing really worried me, and if he is managing to shake it off then what a step forward for United.

Gayer.

Collina · 4th May 2008, 01:01

Played as both winger and back in the second half. It was like playing with eleven players!

Wes · 4th May 2008, 01:02

I like when himself and Evra play as the full backs, gives us really good balance. Quality player when he's in form

Feckin shite central midfielder, though.

FlawlessThaw · 4th May 2008, 01:45

Really don't feel we need a new full back next year. Hargreaves is our man. Carrick has been superb as the holding midfielder this season rendering Hargreaves pointless.

Agree with Wes on the point of both Hargreaves and Evra in the full back positions gives us good balance.

reddevilcanada · 4th May 2008, 01:47

Hargreaves has been excellent on the right lately. Who knows, maybe Fergie won't even buy a RB next season. We'll have Gazza, Brown and Hargreaves who can all do a job there.

Ekeke · 4th May 2008, 01:54

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Originally Posted by Wes

I like when himself and Evra play as the full backs, gives us really good balance. Quality player when he's in form

Feckin shite central midfielder, though.

Denis' cuff · 4th May 2008, 01:59

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Originally Posted by FlawlessThaw

Really don't feel we need a new full back next year. Hargreaves is our man. Carrick has been superb as the holding midfielder this season rendering Hargreaves pointless.

Agree with Wes on the point of both Hargreaves and Evra in the full back positions gives us good balance.

I agree with Thaw (who agreed with Wes) Hargreaves is our man. His last two outings have been superb. We've more than enough in mf and he gives us excellent flexibility. I realise West Ham weren't the ultimate test yesterday but he has looked the part in that position, both defensively and as a forceful overlap/winger. We just nee a top man upfront.

Sam#1 · 4th May 2008, 02:02

Someone needs to tell him to stop running round in circles every time he gets the ball though, I mean seriously, WTF is all that about?

Apart from that, he's looked better of late. Any coincidence that these better performances have been with him playing right back or right wing, not centre mid?

By the way, £18 million for a right back.

MikeUpNorth · 4th May 2008, 02:08

I've been really impressed with the quality of his crossing. He is superb with his right foot, left foot and making space to deliver. A very good purchase in my opinion; good to see him getting a run of games and playing well.

Tumbling-Dice · 4th May 2008, 02:15

Fabulous cross with his left foot today for the second goal. Great to see him notching up the games at last.

cj_lad · 4th May 2008, 03:02

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Someone needs to tell him to stop running round in circles every time he gets the ball though, I mean seriously, WTF is all that about?

Apart from that, he's looked better of late. Any coincidence that these better performances have been with him playing right back or right wing, not centre mid?

By the way, £18 million for a right back.

He's a fantastic player, and United through and through. Can't believe some people are still unable to see this.

emaveric · 4th May 2008, 05:07

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Someone needs to tell him to stop running round in circles every time he gets the ball though, I mean seriously, WTF is all that about?

Apart from that, he's looked better of late. Any coincidence that these better performances have been with him playing right back or right wing, not centre mid?

By the way, £18 million for a right back.

Yes, he got me nervous every time he did that & when opposing player starts to close him down.

Cold_Boy · 4th May 2008, 05:43

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Originally Posted by cj_lad

He's a fantastic player, and United through and through. Can't believe some people are still unable to see this.

Agreed.

All the Hargreaves basher can fck off!

Cold_Boy · 4th May 2008, 05:45

Anyways Can Hargreaves be the next Beckham?

He is superb with crosses on the right hand side.

Anduin · 4th May 2008, 07:50

Hargreaves has been very good in the second half of the season, I thought he gave an excellent performance again yesterday. I remember him playing right-back for Bayern, but he did not make a lasting impression back then. Right now I have to say there is no need to buy a new full-back, Hargreaves has it all: pace, decent at going forward, excellent at crossing and he hardly ever has any problems in defence. Maybe Sir Alex has decided to buy another CM (Veloso, Moutinho...) and Hargreaves will be our "new" future right-back. I think a back four with Hargreaves, Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand has the potential to be the best of the world. I honestly have to say I was angry and disappointed when we paid £18m for him, but again Sir Alex knows a lot more about football than myself...
We certainly need to wait and see how Gary is doing in pre-season, but I doubt he is ever going to be the same player again.

Denis' cuff · 4th May 2008, 08:17

the whole defence and mf is looking good. With options at rb with Hargrreaves and Brown (apart from Neville) then in the middle with Rio/Vidic/Brown/Pique and at LB with Evra and Tweety. All pretty solid and then an abundance of mf options.

All we need now is Peter Crouch up top.

redmania · 4th May 2008, 08:24

If hargeaves is used as a rightback along with wes and neville, then it leave anderson, fletcher, carrick and scholes as our central mid, which i'm very happy about because fletcher and anderson are getting better and better. No need for a fifth central mid i think.

It is central defence we should look at. If pique stays, then no probs, if he goes then we need to get another guy in. We look weaker whenever brown, o shea or sliverstre play there. Vidic is the strong big tackling physcial type and none of our other defenders are in that mould except brown but brown lack size and abit of aggression.

And up front, we need another forward for sure, becasue saha is always injured.

Tevez32 · 4th May 2008, 09:42

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Originally Posted by cj_lad

He's a fantastic player, and United through and through. Can't believe some people are still unable to see this.

Totally agree with you. And he is equally effective as a CM. I don't know how some of the fans here think Carrick is head and shoulders above Hargreaves. Hargreaves is the best defensive midfielder England has got. THat's why he is picked in the England squad ahead of Carrick. Carrick is a fine player but he is a central midfielder not a defensive central midfielder. There are better CMs than Carrick within England ranks but none better in defensive midfield than Hargreaves.

So it is not pointless having Hargreaves. But because of his outstanding crossing ability he is equally effective in wingback. And his running is only matched by Evra.

Pogue Mahone · 4th May 2008, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

Someone needs to tell him to stop running round in circles every time he gets the ball though, I mean seriously, WTF is all that about?

Apart from that, he's looked better of late. Any coincidence that these better performances have been with him playing right back or right wing, not centre mid?

By the way, £18 million for a right back.

He's been class ever since he finally got a run of games on the trot. Which is exactly what most (sensible) posters have been saying all season. Give the lad a chance and judge him after a decent spell in the team. He's been class at right-back and in midfield (remember Roma?) but has played more games as full-back because that's where he's needed most.

Why not just admit you were a bit premature in writing him off?

The cheap-shots about his price-tag and (strangely effective) habit of taking the ball towards the touch-line, with his first touch, are unnecessary.

Striker10 · 4th May 2008, 10:10

It's good he's played a few games now but I hate tempting fate. He's energetic which is good. He's settled in great at right back

lao · 4th May 2008, 10:23

I've always said I preferred Hargreaves to Brown on right back. Hargreaves should be Neville's understudy together with Simpson, while he can move in to the central midfield in big games, and when we've got midfielders injured. Provided that he can get into the role quickly.

a_devil_inside · 4th May 2008, 11:27

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Originally Posted by redmania

If hargeaves is used as a rightback along with wes and neville, then it leave anderson, fletcher, carrick and scholes as our central mid, which i'm very happy about because fletcher and anderson are getting better and better. No need for a fifth central mid i think.

It is central defence we should look at. If pique stays, then no probs, if he goes then we need to get another guy in. We look weaker whenever brown, o shea or sliverstre play there. Vidic is the strong big tackling physcial type and none of our other defenders are in that mould except brown but brown lack size and abit of aggression.

for the midfield Rodrigo seems to be coming along well so that gives us another option.
As for the defence, if Pique goes we still have Jonny Evans

Garethw · 4th May 2008, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

He's been class ever since he finally got a run of games on the trot. Which is exactly what most (sensible) posters have been saying all season. Give the lad a chance and judge him after a decent spell in the team. He's been class at right-back and in midfield (remember Roma?) but has played more games as full-back because that's where he's needed most.

Why not just admit you were a bit premature in writing him off?

The cheap-shots about his price-tag and (strangely effective) habit of taking the ball towards the touch-line, with his first touch, are unnecessary.

Spot On mate. This exactly what i've been saying for months.

People forget that it wasn't until Anderson was given a sustained run in the team that he looked quality, and its the same now with Hargreaves.

A top class player is our Owen and i'm really glad we have him.

Lizard King · 4th May 2008, 12:15

I'm starting to really like Hargreaves, he's done brilliantly lately although I'm still not sure about him as a defensive midfielder.

He's looked 500% better out wide.

Sam#1 · 4th May 2008, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

He's been class ever since he finally got a run of games on the trot. Which is exactly what most (sensible) posters have been saying all season. Give the lad a chance and judge him after a decent spell in the team. He's been class at right-back and in midfield (remember Roma?) but has played more games as full-back because that's where he's needed most.

Why not just admit you were a bit premature in writing him off?

The cheap-shots about his price-tag and (strangely effective) habit of taking the ball towards the touch-line, with his first touch, are unnecessary.

To be fair Pogue, I have, where it's been deserved, praised Hargreaves...

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Originally Posted by Sam#1

I've been one of Hargreaves' biggest critics this season, and I stand by what I have said about him so far, and I still don't think he's the missing piece of the jigsaw in midfield. However, today I was really impressed, not just with his performance, but mainly his passion. First of all, for a midfielder, playing at right back, I thought he did a splendid job. No, I don't see him as a long term solution at right back, and he was by no means perfect, but he did well today, in very difficult circumstances.

But what impressed me most was his attitude and passion. Sure, some people will say he, and Rio, were out of order blah blah blah, but, for me, it showed the hunger and desire he has to win. He's a player that will give his all and more to the cause, and isn't just at United to pick up his wages, but to win trophies for the club. That passion, grit, and determination is something I love to see in a United player, and hopefully, if he can add consistently good performances to that attitude, he will go on to be a success.

Anyway, before I start rambling to much, I just want to say, well done Owen, you showed real fight today, and hopefully there is a lot more to come.

FlawlessThaw · 4th May 2008, 13:30

I take it you now consider him to be a United type player?

Bape · 4th May 2008, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

He's been class ever since he finally got a run of games on the trot. Which is exactly what most (sensible) posters have been saying all season. Give the lad a chance and judge him after a decent spell in the team. He's been class at right-back and in midfield (remember Roma?) but has played more games as full-back because that's where he's needed most.

Why not just admit you were a bit premature in writing him off?

The cheap-shots about his price-tag and (strangely effective) habit of taking the ball towards the touch-line, with his first touch, are unnecessary.

Good post pogue.

4th May 2008, 00:19	#1 (permalink)
711 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nearly all French are Bastards Posts: 867	Hargreaves fitness It seems to have gone unremarked, but Hargreaves is beginning to clock up the games, and is looking seriously fit. What a damned good thing this is. I have to say the tendonitis thing really worried me, and if he is managing to shake it off then what a step forward for United.

4th May 2008, 00:40	#2 (permalink)
Raven_Blade Attention Whoring Common Crow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ronaldo Thread. Posts: 13,847	We work our players hard to help them achieve their full potential. Hargreaves needs to perform 2 more times then he will have the whole summer to rest and recover.

4th May 2008, 00:43	#3 (permalink)
Simon Adebesi Reserve Team Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sanctity, like a cat, abhors filth. Posts: 1,746	Nice big gaps between the remaining games as well. I just mentioned that in another thread. Hargreaves will definitely be a beneficiary of that.

4th May 2008, 01:01	#5 (permalink)
Collina Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I drink my milk with tabasco Posts: 1,107	Played as both winger and back in the second half. It was like playing with eleven players!

4th May 2008, 01:02	#6 (permalink)
Wes Brown is no God Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dublin, in the Irish Republic Posts: 7,104	I like when himself and Evra play as the full backs, gives us really good balance. Quality player when he's in form Feckin shite central midfielder, though.

4th May 2008, 01:45	#7 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 8,312	Really don't feel we need a new full back next year. Hargreaves is our man. Carrick has been superb as the holding midfielder this season rendering Hargreaves pointless. Agree with Wes on the point of both Hargreaves and Evra in the full back positions gives us good balance.

4th May 2008, 01:47	#8 (permalink)
reddevilcanada First Team Sub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,195	Hargreaves has been excellent on the right lately. Who knows, maybe Fergie won't even buy a RB next season. We'll have Gazza, Brown and Hargreaves who can all do a job there.

4th May 2008, 02:02	#11 (permalink)
Sam#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo >>> Anyone. And yes, I still love Jamie Lynn Spears. Posts: 12,322	Someone needs to tell him to stop running round in circles every time he gets the ball though, I mean seriously, WTF is all that about? Apart from that, he's looked better of late. Any coincidence that these better performances have been with him playing right back or right wing, not centre mid? By the way, £18 million for a right back.

4th May 2008, 02:08	#12 (permalink)
MikeUpNorth Wobbles like a massive pair of tits Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,760	I've been really impressed with the quality of his crossing. He is superb with his right foot, left foot and making space to deliver. A very good purchase in my opinion; good to see him getting a run of games and playing well.

4th May 2008, 02:15	#13 (permalink)
Tumbling-Dice Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at. Posts: 2,208	Fabulous cross with his left foot today for the second goal. Great to see him notching up the games at last.

4th May 2008, 05:45	#17 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Amit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: somewhere i hate to live Posts: 9,379	Anyways Can Hargreaves be the next Beckham? He is superb with crosses on the right hand side.

4th May 2008, 07:50	#18 (permalink)
Anduin Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Champions again. Posts: 602	Hargreaves has been very good in the second half of the season, I thought he gave an excellent performance again yesterday. I remember him playing right-back for Bayern, but he did not make a lasting impression back then. Right now I have to say there is no need to buy a new full-back, Hargreaves has it all: pace, decent at going forward, excellent at crossing and he hardly ever has any problems in defence. Maybe Sir Alex has decided to buy another CM (Veloso, Moutinho...) and Hargreaves will be our "new" future right-back. I think a back four with Hargreaves, Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand has the potential to be the best of the world. I honestly have to say I was angry and disappointed when we paid £18m for him, but again Sir Alex knows a lot more about football than myself... We certainly need to wait and see how Gary is doing in pre-season, but I doubt he is ever going to be the same player again.

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Denis' cuff Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,011	the whole defence and mf is looking good. With options at rb with Hargrreaves and Brown (apart from Neville) then in the middle with Rio/Vidic/Brown/Pique and at LB with Evra and Tweety. All pretty solid and then an abundance of mf options. All we need now is Peter Crouch up top.

4th May 2008, 08:24	#20 (permalink)
redmania Youth Team Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 324	If hargeaves is used as a rightback along with wes and neville, then it leave anderson, fletcher, carrick and scholes as our central mid, which i'm very happy about because fletcher and anderson are getting better and better. No need for a fifth central mid i think. It is central defence we should look at. If pique stays, then no probs, if he goes then we need to get another guy in. We look weaker whenever brown, o shea or sliverstre play there. Vidic is the strong big tackling physcial type and none of our other defenders are in that mould except brown but brown lack size and abit of aggression. And up front, we need another forward for sure, becasue saha is always injured.

4th May 2008, 10:10	#23 (permalink)
Striker10 First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,115	It's good he's played a few games now but I hate tempting fate. He's energetic which is good. He's settled in great at right back

4th May 2008, 10:23	#24 (permalink)
lao A Real Cock Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrounded by Swedish Pussies. Posts: 1,955	I've always said I preferred Hargreaves to Brown on right back. Hargreaves should be Neville's understudy together with Simpson, while he can move in to the central midfield in big games, and when we've got midfielders injured. Provided that he can get into the role quickly.

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Lizard King Join Date: May 2007 Location: Anderson's hair Posts: 11,320	I'm starting to really like Hargreaves, he's done brilliantly lately although I'm still not sure about him as a defensive midfielder. He's looked 500% better out wide.

4th May 2008, 13:30	#29 (permalink)
FlawlessThaw most 'know it all' poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 8,312	I take it you now consider him to be a United type player?