How do we approach the Europa League?

pocco · 7th December 2011, 22:00

Play the kids and back-up players. It'd be a good achievement if they went far in the Europa League so we could save face somewhat if that happens. It'd mean that our back up players are more up to speed should they have to step in at the business end of the season and is extra opportunity to play Morrison & co.

rcoobc · 7th December 2011, 22:00

As training for next year, but serious training

Mainoldo · 7th December 2011, 22:01

Play the kids!!

MUFCgal · 7th December 2011, 22:02

A mixture of young ones and fringe players. Blood the young lads.

I wouldn't worry anyway, the way we're playing at the moment, we wouldn't win the Europa League either.

Minkaro · 7th December 2011, 22:03

A mix of players. First team players that need game time, a few kids, that sort of thing. I expect to see lots of Lindegaard, Fryers, Pogba, Morrison, Gibson, whichever Da Silva is coming back from injury, and maybe Macheda/Diouf if either of them are still at Old Trafford.

Frosty · 7th December 2011, 22:09

A chance to beat City in the Final? Let's go for it.

RK · 7th December 2011, 22:10

Either play the first team or let the fans have a kickabout instead.

bigredmachine · 7th December 2011, 22:12

Let's just try to win the fucker, though not at the cost of the league. Thursday night games might take a bit out of the players.

Ekeke · 7th December 2011, 22:14

I'm going to be annoyed anytime one of our "first 11" is picked for the europa league.

Play the kids.

Ferguson · 7th December 2011, 22:16

This takes the sting out of losing to Crystal Palace.

Europa League = New Carling Cup

MalteseRedDevil · 7th December 2011, 22:19

I want to win it. Its a trophy and only last week we were so disappointed we went out of the carling cup.

This forum and from what i gather most people in Britain do not rate the europa league. That is not teh case in europe. I understand that its a second rate competition, but its still a European competition and id be delighted if we won it in may

Also A good run would maintain our uefa coefficient ranking which is important to keep our position as top seeds.

MalteseRedDevil · 7th December 2011, 22:21

oh and how is playing Thursday Sunday any different from playing Wednesday Saturday??

its an excuse most managers make but it actually makes no sense.

Kraftwerker · 7th December 2011, 22:23

Only positive is lots of game time for Ravel and others.

Never want to see a first teamer near the team.

Joke competition on par with Carling Cup.

penfold52 · 7th December 2011, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Wayne_Rooney

by aeroplane , unless its an English club we play, it will be by bus....

Sorry a bit titsed off at the moment

Pexbo · 7th December 2011, 22:34

I don't think we'll start the kids. I think there is a bit of a code of conduct for clubs to take this competition seriously.

rcoobc · 7th December 2011, 22:37

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Originally Posted by rcoobc

The good:

1) If we ever need to fuck a competition to save the League, we have an easy decision to make.

2) We can play the kids as often as we want, a good experience for them.

3) An extra 2 possible games this season

4) None of this waiting 3 weeks crap. 2nd Legs the week after the 1st.

5) None of this waiting a month for the final crap. Final is just 2/3 weeks after the Semi

6) Jettison the spoilt fans.

7) Get the Caf used to the Europa League. It's a good fucking competition!

8) We can play Barcelona in the Super Cup, a moral victory should we win. First we have to win this little prize

9) We have never won this competition. Lets do it!

10) Games sometimes start at 8:05pm

11) Fancy seeing the lesser known European Football hotspots? Why not zoidburg?

Try to win with youth.

Amir · 7th December 2011, 22:39

Have a look at Feburary, see where were at in the league and the FA Cup, if we're still there. If the calendar is relatively clear, go for it. Maybe if the seniors play in it once, they'll appreciate the CL just a little bit more.

cj_sparky · 7th December 2011, 22:40

Amos

Keane Thorpe McGinty Fryers

Cole Morrison Pogba Brady

Keane Macheda

wr8_utd · 7th December 2011, 22:55

League Cup team please and If we manage to win the tournament atleast we'll have the opportunity to get hammered by Madrid or Barca in Monaco next August.

WR · 7th December 2011, 22:57

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Originally Posted by wr8_utd

League Cup team please and If we manage to win the tournament atleast we'll have the opportunity to get hammered by Madrid or Barca in Monaco next August.

Always a pessimist, wr8.

MalteseRedDevil · 7th December 2011, 23:00

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Originally Posted by wr8_utd

League Cup team please and If we manage to win the tournament atleast we'll have the opportunity to get hammered by Madrid or Barca in Monaco next August.

The mentality is all wrong.

I hate it when we loose a league game, Im even more annoyed when we get knocked out of a cup. I KNOW i will be disappointed if we get knocked out of the Europa League. We should play to win it. Rotating the squad is a good thing. Its exactly what we have been doing in the CL. But playing the youth or reserve team makes no sense.

Man-United · 29th January 2012, 19:13

As we're now out of the FA Cup, after Liverpool on the 11th we will have 15 days until the next Premier League game and in between that we play Ajax twice.

Do you think Fergie will go with the best possible team against Ajax now, or instead see it as a good chance to rest the likes of Evra, Carrick and those who played a lot a two weeks rest?

Snow · 29th January 2012, 19:18

Best team minus 2-3 players in away game. Home game depends on how we do away.

pauldyson1uk · 29th January 2012, 19:22

We need to treat this has a competition to win.

I dont agree with playing a team full of reserves,play the team we would of played in the CL and go out to win it.

I know I will be in the minority but that's what I want SAF to do.

Moyespopper · 29th January 2012, 19:31

Hopefully by the time it comes round Anderson, Cleverly, Jones and Young will be ready to go and in need of games.

I hope we send a decent side out against Ajax.

DubaiReds · 29th January 2012, 19:31

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Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

We need to treat this has a competition to win.

I dont agree with playing a team full of reserves,play the team we would of played in the CL and go out to win it.

I know I will be in the minority but that's what I want SAF to do.

Agreed we should go all out to win it after all aren't we supposed to be a professional football club? From a financial point of view I'm sick of a load of money being taken out of my account for cup games to watch mostly reserves play in a cup game. I might as well go down to Altrincham FC (our reserve team ground for those of you on this forum that hasn't a clue where anywhere in Greater Manchester is) and watch the reserves for free.

And while i'm on a rant we've had so many injuries we need to play the likes of Young, Anderson, Cleverly etc... so they can get them match fit for the final league run in where we will hopefully be competing for the Premiership.

greater wall · 29th January 2012, 19:34

Ajax are a team with a great history, we should do the tie justice and put out our best team. We could do with a great European night at OT. As we are out of the FA cup as well now, there is no excuse for not taking it seriously.

Cling Bak · 29th January 2012, 19:40

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Originally Posted by DubaiReds

Agreed we should go all out to win it after all aren't we supposed to be a professional football club? From a financial point of view I'm sick of a load of money being taken out of my account for cup games to watch mostly reserves play in a cup game. I might as well go down to Altrincham FC (our reserve team ground for those of you on this forum that hasn't a clue where anywhere in Greater Manchester is) and watch the reserves for free.

And while i'm on a rant we've had so many injuries we need to play the likes of Young, Anderson, Cleverly etc... so they can get them match fit for the final league run in where we will hopefully be competing for the Premiership.

Top Red alert.

Sparky_Hughes · 29th January 2012, 20:03

We should play the first team, they are the reason we are in it.

RyanGoggs · 29th January 2012, 20:08

It's my first time going to old trafford so part of me is hoping we take it seriously. Conversely I would also love to watch the likes of Morrison and Pogba so its a bit of a conundrum. Hopefully it will be an enjoyable night and great atmosphere although I'm a little worried by the number of tickets still available.

Cheesy · 29th January 2012, 20:11

I want us to go into this as a competition which we can look to win, but isn't seen as a priority by any stretch of the imagination.

We should look to field a stronger side in the first leg of games, and if we can build up a good margin, then we can rest most players. I don't really expect us to field our strongest team at all, but I also don't want to see us fielding our reserve side either.

devilish · 29th January 2012, 20:13

We're out of the CL, FA and League cup. If we're half as good as we portray ourselves to be then we can handle 2 competitions at the same time.

togg · 29th January 2012, 20:13

actually...I want to win this. A competition we have never won...lets enter it and win the bloody thing.

Red Devil 26 · 29th January 2012, 20:17

I hope we use it to give the youngsters, and squad players in need of games an opportunity. I couldn't justify a player of great importance getting injured, and missing Prem games as a result. Which of course is our number one priority.

Crustanoid · 29th January 2012, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Red Devil 26

I hope we use it to give the youngsters, and squad players in need of games an opportunity. I couldn't justify a player of great importance getting injured, and missing Prem games as a result. Which of course is our number one priority.

We'll be knocked out in the next round if we take that approach. That's exactly why we got into this mess in the first place, as SAF used the group stage to rotate, meaning players were out of match practice and played like shit collectively

Red Devil 26 · 29th January 2012, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Crustanoid

We'll be knocked out in the next round if we take that approach. That's exactly why we got into this mess in the first place, as SAF used the group stage to rotate, meaning players were out of match practice and played like shit collectively

I agree, crappy rotation certainly played a part in our embarrassing Champions League exit. If we exited early from the Europa League, I personally wouldn't be overly concerned (Unless we faced City and they knocked us out). I just don't see the point in risking players, when the potential rewards are so minute. I know that sounds ridiculously spoilt, but I'm just being honest.

Skholesy · 29th January 2012, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Red Devil 26

I hope we use it to give the youngsters, and squad players in need of games an opportunity. I couldn't justify a player of great importance getting injured, and missing Prem games as a result. Which of course is our number one priority.

Why? Its not like we'd play our youth in the Champions League games? Just because its a lesser competition doesn't mean we don't compete and throw it away like we did the Carling Cup. A team like ours should be built to be competing in all fronts, that's why we pay big money for players and pay good wages.

We should treat it as though its the Champions League, are you saying we should played weakened teams in the CL so that it doesn't disrupt our league charge?

We aren't built on such attitudes that "oh, its only the Europa league, we don't need to win it". We are Manchester United, and such mentality is why teams don't win trophies - our mentality should be that we rotate sensibly in the league and cup games, in order to achieve the best possible finish in all of the competitions. We're not Stoke or Birmingham who's worse impact is relegation if competing hard for the Europa League.

I say it again, we're Manchester United, we go for the win. I'd be upset if we played the same team as the Carling Cup against Palace. We should rotate a few players but play a strong team.

Randall Flagg · 29th January 2012, 20:28

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Originally Posted by pauldyson1uk

We need to treat this has a competition to win.

I dont agree with playing a team full of reserves,play the team we would of played in the CL and go out to win it.

I know I will be in the minority but that's what I want SAF to do.

Me too. At the end of the day if we get to the final it will be something I think we will all look forward to

Judge Red · 29th January 2012, 20:29

We haven't won it before, and we'll be hoping we never get the opportunity to win it again, so I'd like us to make the most of it.

At the same time, when we've got players like Berbatov and Owen doing next to nothing, it makes little sense to use Rooney in the Europa League. Same goes for Morrison and Pogba. Give them the chance to prove they're worth the money they're after. It shouldn't be seen as not taking it seriously by playing such players.

Sean_RedDevil · 29th January 2012, 20:29

Squad for the Ajax games
Goalkeepers: Lindegaard, De Gea, Amos
Defenders: Rafael, Fabio, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Fryers
Midfielders: Scholes, Anderson, Cleverley, Pogba, Lingard, Cole, Park, Valencia, Young
Strikers: Chicharito, Welbeck, Berbatov, Owen, W.Keane

Rooney, Giggs, Ferdinand, Nani, Carrick and Evra should go to Dubai for 7-10 days.

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7th December 2011, 22:00	#41 (permalink)
pocco loco Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Keep a clean shit tomorrow, United is my final bus stop Posts: 5,419	Play the kids and back-up players. It'd be a good achievement if they went far in the Europa League so we could save face somewhat if that happens. It'd mean that our back up players are more up to speed should they have to step in at the business end of the season and is extra opportunity to play Morrison & co.

7th December 2011, 22:00	#42 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 22,988	As training for next year, but serious training

7th December 2011, 22:01	#43 (permalink)
Mainoldo First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,039	Play the kids!!

7th December 2011, 22:02	#44 (permalink)
MUFCgal First Team Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland Posts: 19,673	A mixture of young ones and fringe players. Blood the young lads. I wouldn't worry anyway, the way we're playing at the moment, we wouldn't win the Europa League either.

7th December 2011, 22:03	#45 (permalink)
Minkaro First Team Sub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 6,972	A mix of players. First team players that need game time, a few kids, that sort of thing. I expect to see lots of Lindegaard, Fryers, Pogba, Morrison, Gibson, whichever Da Silva is coming back from injury, and maybe Macheda/Diouf if either of them are still at Old Trafford.

7th December 2011, 22:09	#46 (permalink)
Frosty Logical and sensible but turns women gay Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,900	A chance to beat City in the Final? Let's go for it.

7th December 2011, 22:10	#47 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 15,121	Either play the first team or let the fans have a kickabout instead.

7th December 2011, 22:12	#48 (permalink)
bigredmachine Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: BOX TO BOX Posts: 1,656	Let's just try to win the fucker, though not at the cost of the league. Thursday night games might take a bit out of the players.

7th December 2011, 22:14	#49 (permalink)
Ekeke First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 26,412	I'm going to be annoyed anytime one of our "first 11" is picked for the europa league. Play the kids.

7th December 2011, 22:16	#50 (permalink)
Ferguson Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,975	This takes the sting out of losing to Crystal Palace. Europa League = New Carling Cup

7th December 2011, 22:19	#51 (permalink)
MalteseRedDevil Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Goal Posts: 1,596	I want to win it. Its a trophy and only last week we were so disappointed we went out of the carling cup. This forum and from what i gather most people in Britain do not rate the europa league. That is not teh case in europe. I understand that its a second rate competition, but its still a European competition and id be delighted if we won it in may Also A good run would maintain our uefa coefficient ranking which is important to keep our position as top seeds.

7th December 2011, 22:21	#52 (permalink)
MalteseRedDevil Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Goal Posts: 1,596	oh and how is playing Thursday Sunday any different from playing Wednesday Saturday?? its an excuse most managers make but it actually makes no sense.

7th December 2011, 22:23	#53 (permalink)
Kraftwerker Formerly RedAddict Join Date: May 2008 Location: We can't stop here. This is bat country. Posts: 10,280	Only positive is lots of game time for Ravel and others. Never want to see a first teamer near the team. Joke competition on par with Carling Cup.

7th December 2011, 22:34	#55 (permalink)
Pexbo He'll have your eye out and listed on Amazon before you can say "ow!" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: T'Internet Posts: 11,796	I don't think we'll start the kids. I think there is a bit of a code of conduct for clubs to take this competition seriously.

7th December 2011, 22:39	#57 (permalink)
Amir First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rehovot, Israel Posts: 17,333	Have a look at Feburary, see where were at in the league and the FA Cup, if we're still there. If the calendar is relatively clear, go for it. Maybe if the seniors play in it once, they'll appreciate the CL just a little bit more.

7th December 2011, 22:40	#58 (permalink)
cj_sparky Reserve Team Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: "At times when I've watched him, I wonder if he's being controlled by a 10 year old in the crowd with a playstation console" Gary Neville talking about David Luiz Posts: 4,538	Amos Keane Thorpe McGinty Fryers Cole Morrison Pogba Brady Keane Macheda

7th December 2011, 22:55	#59 (permalink)
wr8_utd :'( Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28,275	League Cup team please and If we manage to win the tournament atleast we'll have the opportunity to get hammered by Madrid or Barca in Monaco next August.

29th January 2012, 19:13	#62 (permalink)
Man-United First Team Sub Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,410	As we're now out of the FA Cup, after Liverpool on the 11th we will have 15 days until the next Premier League game and in between that we play Ajax twice. Do you think Fergie will go with the best possible team against Ajax now, or instead see it as a good chance to rest the likes of Evra, Carrick and those who played a lot a two weeks rest?

29th January 2012, 19:18	#63 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 16,825	Best team minus 2-3 players in away game. Home game depends on how we do away.

29th January 2012, 19:22	#64 (permalink)
pauldyson1uk First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wythenshawe watching Crappy Fims Posts: 20,353	We need to treat this has a competition to win. I dont agree with playing a team full of reserves,play the team we would of played in the CL and go out to win it. I know I will be in the minority but that's what I want SAF to do.

29th January 2012, 19:31	#65 (permalink)
Moyespopper Lowering the tone since 2006 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, think I'm heading home! Posts: 54,081	Hopefully by the time it comes round Anderson, Cleverly, Jones and Young will be ready to go and in need of games. I hope we send a decent side out against Ajax.

29th January 2012, 19:34	#67 (permalink)
greater wall Youth Team Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 409	Ajax are a team with a great history, we should do the tie justice and put out our best team. We could do with a great European night at OT. As we are out of the FA cup as well now, there is no excuse for not taking it seriously.

29th January 2012, 20:03	#69 (permalink)
Sparky_Hughes Donkey Buggering Tyrant who cheats at Monopoly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: knee deep in the despair of others and loving it Posts: 6,460	We should play the first team, they are the reason we are in it.

29th January 2012, 20:08	#70 (permalink)
RyanGoggs Insists on dating women in public places - for their own safety Join Date: May 2011 Location: The Land of Kernow Posts: 6,202	It's my first time going to old trafford so part of me is hoping we take it seriously. Conversely I would also love to watch the likes of Morrison and Pogba so its a bit of a conundrum. Hopefully it will be an enjoyable night and great atmosphere although I'm a little worried by the number of tickets still available.

29th January 2012, 20:11	#71 (permalink)
Cheesy Smells Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 9,087	I want us to go into this as a competition which we can look to win, but isn't seen as a priority by any stretch of the imagination. We should look to field a stronger side in the first leg of games, and if we can build up a good margin, then we can rest most players. I don't really expect us to field our strongest team at all, but I also don't want to see us fielding our reserve side either.

29th January 2012, 20:13	#72 (permalink)
devilish First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 27,184	We're out of the CL, FA and League cup. If we're half as good as we portray ourselves to be then we can handle 2 competitions at the same time.

29th January 2012, 20:13	#73 (permalink)
togg Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mike Phelan is a Looner Posts: 3,018	actually...I want to win this. A competition we have never won...lets enter it and win the bloody thing.

29th January 2012, 20:17	#74 (permalink)
Red Devil 26 Premature Examination Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: <Insert witty remark> Posts: 2,378	I hope we use it to give the youngsters, and squad players in need of games an opportunity. I couldn't justify a player of great importance getting injured, and missing Prem games as a result. Which of course is our number one priority.

29th January 2012, 20:29	#79 (permalink)
Judge Red Don't Call Me Douglas Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,028	We haven't won it before, and we'll be hoping we never get the opportunity to win it again, so I'd like us to make the most of it. At the same time, when we've got players like Berbatov and Owen doing next to nothing, it makes little sense to use Rooney in the Europa League. Same goes for Morrison and Pogba. Give them the chance to prove they're worth the money they're after. It shouldn't be seen as not taking it seriously by playing such players.

29th January 2012, 20:29	#80 (permalink)
Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham + Londinium Posts: 9,963	Squad for the Ajax games Goalkeepers: Lindegaard, De Gea, Amos Defenders: Rafael, Fabio, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Fryers Midfielders: Scholes, Anderson, Cleverley, Pogba, Lingard, Cole, Park, Valencia, Young Strikers: Chicharito, Welbeck, Berbatov, Owen, W.Keane Rooney, Giggs, Ferdinand, Nani, Carrick and Evra should go to Dubai for 7-10 days.