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Reserve Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2004
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How many of you would welcome a return of VDS?
Just curious, if VDS did a u-turn ala Scholes, but only till the end of the season, how would you feel about it?
I recall many fans were singing "1 more yr" last season for him. |
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Not as crap as eferyone thinks
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: F for Fendetta
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What's wrong with Lindegaard?
We've spent 30 million pounds on goalkeepers to last us the next 10 years, at least we can give them 12 months. It's not as if we're left in anything that we can't win with the pair we have got. |
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Doesn't like his Tagline played with
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 7,166
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Ahh, I miss the dopey lanky Dutchman, what a player!
There was something utterly cool having a 40-year old in the net. And his last season was probably his best ever. ![]() But don't come back Ed, that'd be ridiculous on so many levels. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Behind the Striker.
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Ideally, what you're saying should have happened last season. Buying DDG and allowing him to bed in under VDS and giving him a full year to learn the nuances of the english game without being under the spotlight of being the number 1.
Now, too late. DDGs confidence would be shot to pieces. same for lindegaard. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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It's worth noting that Van Der Sar never had to play this much without either Vidic or Ferdinand, never mind without either of them for the vast majority of the season.
That and he just stopped even trying to save shots which were hit with any great venom in the last couple of years, so those criticising De Gea for Kuyt's goal would presumably be having a collective seizure every couple of weeks. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.
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Phones, soup, paint, chairs and computers are troubling.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Where Albert Stubbins scored a diving header
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I wonder who I was watching. Swindon, maybe. No wonder all the pundits were surprised when they kept winning the PL and getting to the CL final... |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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That's a completely laughable statement, no matter how good he was. And look, he was very good for us, but his shot-stopping and his positioning were never his main attributes, and towards the end it became really obvious. It was offset by his other qualities to a sufficient degree, but he definitely retired at the right time, as was shown most obviously by his performance at Wembley. Bringing him back now would be terrible for his legacy, terrible for the club in the long-term, and probably not do us much good for the rest of the season.
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Doesn't like his Tagline played with
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Drogba and Olic are the most obvious ones, due to the impact they had, but there's plenty of others, he started getting beaten from tight angles far too regularly towards the end. He was in his late 30s, it was inevitable that his reactions were slowing down. It didn't matter so much because we had such a resilient, well-organised defence, and he was, of course central to that. If he was as exposed as De Gea is, especially now, then he'd look pretty awful.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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I take it you were impressed by his work in dealing with Messi's goal at Wembley? Y'know, the one which decided the final. Pedro's was a great finish, but it was also more than a little iffy. He just stopped being quick enough, it's as simple as that.
I don't want to have to slag him off, but if people on here are going to go all misty eyed and use him as a stick with which to beat our current pair of keepers they need to be reminded of how things actually were. |
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Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: bonnie wee Scotland
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The Messi goal was quite powerful and i doubt most keepers would have saved it, but to me it was a bit similiar to Dzeko's against us in the Community shield, which De Gea was hounded for.
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Join Date: May 2011
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It's funny my ex flatmates always went on about how dodgy VDS was at his near post and they were neutral fans. I fucking loved VDS but I don't think he was as mistake free as we like to remember.
I remember VDS coming from a couple of crosses and not getting there like De Gea has done and I remember him letting in some easy shots like De Gea, difference is VDS's mistakes were quite infrequent. Every keeper makes mistakes as we've seen this season, difference is how many good games they have inbetween |
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Last season was probably VdS's best of the last few years. He had a fair few ropey spells in 2008-2010 but 10-11 was probably his most consistent in his United career to date.
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It's also worth noting that when he was a good bit older than De Gea is now he got the nickname Dracula because he was so afraid of crosses. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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![]() Great keeper, and yeah, he was actually better in his last season than the previous one, but he was hardly error-free, and he was part of the best defensive unit this club has ever had, one which DDG hasn't seen too much of. He definitely retired at the right time. |
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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I would welcome VDS back in a heart beat, for me his the best United keeper ever, like you say, he was incredibly consistent. I agree with an earlier poster, De Gea should have been signed a season earlier to work as an understudy to (his hero) Van Der Sar. I actually think that the same should have been done with Scholes replacement, though it has transpired that Scholes replacement is errrrmmm well it is Scholes isn't it. |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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No.
This is not an issue. Honestly, are we supposed to bring players out of retirement every time a player in the position makes a mistake? |
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First Team Regular
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Using location as a tagline: because I'm just not cool enough to have my own.
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He's said innthe media that hes dulled significantly in the months off that he's had and even when he goes to do some training tracking and stopping the longshots presents issues for him like it never used to.
So no. |
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