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Old 30th January 2012, 11:37   #1 (permalink)
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How many of you would welcome a return of VDS?

Just curious, if VDS did a u-turn ala Scholes, but only till the end of the season, how would you feel about it?

I recall many fans were singing "1 more yr" last season for him.
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Old 30th January 2012, 11:39   #2 (permalink)
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I would feel sorry for De Gea and Lindegaard. Purely from a selfish viewpoint, bring it on.
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Old 30th January 2012, 11:40   #3 (permalink)
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I'm pragmatic on this. He can't be worse than the turd in goal right now.
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Old 30th January 2012, 11:54   #4 (permalink)
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Really though? Look VDS as good as he was, is capable of mistakes aswell. We are all only human. Because of "dodgey" form, no way. If there was an injury or 2 I'd welcome it.
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Old 30th January 2012, 11:55   #5 (permalink)
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What about a return of Big Pete?
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Old 30th January 2012, 11:56   #6 (permalink)
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What's wrong with Lindegaard?

We've spent 30 million pounds on goalkeepers to last us the next 10 years, at least we can give them 12 months. It's not as if we're left in anything that we can't win with the pair we have got.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:00   #7 (permalink)
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I would take him back in a shot
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:00   #8 (permalink)
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:00   #9 (permalink)
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Ahh, I miss the dopey lanky Dutchman, what a player!

There was something utterly cool having a 40-year old in the net.

And his last season was probably his best ever.



But don't come back Ed, that'd be ridiculous on so many levels.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:05   #10 (permalink)
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Lindegaards more than good enough to fill in for DDG.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:12   #11 (permalink)
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:14   #12 (permalink)
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Not sure little VDS is quite ready for the big team yet..
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:15   #13 (permalink)
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Ideally, what you're saying should have happened last season. Buying DDG and allowing him to bed in under VDS and giving him a full year to learn the nuances of the english game without being under the spotlight of being the number 1.

Now, too late. DDGs confidence would be shot to pieces. same for lindegaard.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:16   #14 (permalink)
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It's worth noting that Van Der Sar never had to play this much without either Vidic or Ferdinand, never mind without either of them for the vast majority of the season.

That and he just stopped even trying to save shots which were hit with any great venom in the last couple of years, so those criticising De Gea for Kuyt's goal would presumably be having a collective seizure every couple of weeks.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:24   #15 (permalink)
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That and he just stopped even trying to save shots which were hit with any great venom in the last couple of years, so those criticising De Gea for Kuyt's goal would presumably be having a collective seizure every couple of weeks.
What??

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Old 30th January 2012, 12:28   #16 (permalink)
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If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:32   #17 (permalink)
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If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.
I cannot think of a footballer in any position that was almost near perfection as VDS over the past 3-4 years
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:33   #18 (permalink)
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I guess you have been.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:34   #19 (permalink)
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S*d it...you guys might as well ask Roy, Nicky and Gary to come out of retirement too...

You've got 2 good GKs...one of which will clearly become world class in time. Be happy ffs
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:36   #20 (permalink)
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S*d it...you guys might as well ask Roy, Nicky and Gary to come out of retirement too...

You've got 2 good GKs...one of which will clearly become world class in time. Be happy ffs
It’s a hypothetical thread. We know he aint coming back. But if he did it would not be an unrealistic thing considering how good he was last season
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:41   #21 (permalink)
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If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.
Hmm, nope don't remember those

I wonder who I was watching. Swindon, maybe. No wonder all the pundits were surprised when they kept winning the PL and getting to the CL final...
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:43   #22 (permalink)
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If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.
Drogba?
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:43   #23 (permalink)
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I cannot think of a footballer in any position that was almost near perfection as VDS over the past 3-4 years
That's a completely laughable statement, no matter how good he was. And look, he was very good for us, but his shot-stopping and his positioning were never his main attributes, and towards the end it became really obvious. It was offset by his other qualities to a sufficient degree, but he definitely retired at the right time, as was shown most obviously by his performance at Wembley. Bringing him back now would be terrible for his legacy, terrible for the club in the long-term, and probably not do us much good for the rest of the season.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:48   #24 (permalink)
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That's a completely laughable statement, no matter how good he was. And look, he was very good for us, but his shot-stopping and his positioning were never his main attributes, and towards the end it became really obvious. It was offset by his other qualities to a sufficient degree, but he definitely retired at the right time, as was shown most obviously by his performance at Wembley. Bringing him back now would be terrible for his legacy, terrible for the club in the long-term, and probably not do us much good for the rest of the season.
Oh my.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:49   #25 (permalink)
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Hmm, nope don't remember those

I wonder who I was watching. Swindon, maybe. No wonder all the pundits were surprised when they kept winning the PL and getting to the CL final...
Drogba and Olic are the most obvious ones, due to the impact they had, but there's plenty of others, he started getting beaten from tight angles far too regularly towards the end. He was in his late 30s, it was inevitable that his reactions were slowing down. It didn't matter so much because we had such a resilient, well-organised defence, and he was, of course central to that. If he was as exposed as De Gea is, especially now, then he'd look pretty awful.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:54   #26 (permalink)
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Oh my.
I take it you were impressed by his work in dealing with Messi's goal at Wembley? Y'know, the one which decided the final. Pedro's was a great finish, but it was also more than a little iffy. He just stopped being quick enough, it's as simple as that.

I don't want to have to slag him off, but if people on here are going to go all misty eyed and use him as a stick with which to beat our current pair of keepers they need to be reminded of how things actually were.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:56   #27 (permalink)
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The Messi goal was quite powerful and i doubt most keepers would have saved it, but to me it was a bit similiar to Dzeko's against us in the Community shield, which De Gea was hounded for.
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Old 30th January 2012, 12:57   #28 (permalink)
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It's funny my ex flatmates always went on about how dodgy VDS was at his near post and they were neutral fans. I fucking loved VDS but I don't think he was as mistake free as we like to remember.

I remember VDS coming from a couple of crosses and not getting there like De Gea has done and I remember him letting in some easy shots like De Gea, difference is VDS's mistakes were quite infrequent. Every keeper makes mistakes as we've seen this season, difference is how many good games they have inbetween
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:00   #29 (permalink)
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Last season was probably VdS's best of the last few years. He had a fair few ropey spells in 2008-2010 but 10-11 was probably his most consistent in his United career to date.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:02   #30 (permalink)
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It's funny my ex flatmates always went on about how dodgy VDS was at his near post and they were neutral fans. I fucking loved VDS but I don't think he was as mistake free as we like to remember.

I remember VDS coming from a couple of crosses and not getting there like De Gea has done and I remember him letting in some easy shots like De Gea, difference is VDS's mistakes were quite infrequent. Every keeper makes mistakes as we've seen this season, difference is how many good games they have inbetween
His biggest flaw was spooning shots back into dangerous areas. Most memorably against Milan. He also had a horrible run of form after Robbie Keane almost broke his enormous conk.

It's also worth noting that when he was a good bit older than De Gea is now he got the nickname Dracula because he was so afraid of crosses.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:02   #31 (permalink)
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Ridiculous idea, you might as well sell De Gea and Lindegaard now and play PIG. Their confidence would be shot to pieces.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:09   #32 (permalink)
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The Messi goal was quite powerful and i doubt most keepers would have saved it, but to me it was a bit similiar to Dzeko's against us in the Community shield, which De Gea was hounded for.
Whilst keeping in mind that Messi should never have been allowed to get the shot off like that in the first place:



Great keeper, and yeah, he was actually better in his last season than the previous one, but he was hardly error-free, and he was part of the best defensive unit this club has ever had, one which DDG hasn't seen too much of. He definitely retired at the right time.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:15   #33 (permalink)
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I would be over the moon if this happen.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:19   #34 (permalink)
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how is the club ever going to improve if we keep bringing players out of retirement, lets get sir bobby out then while you guys are at it.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:27   #35 (permalink)
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I cannot think of a footballer in any position that was almost near perfection as VDS over the past 3-4 years
LOL, well then, is Messi is beyond perfection? In the past four years, he has played better than I ever imagined a player could........and then some.

I would welcome VDS back in a heart beat, for me his the best United keeper ever, like you say, he was incredibly consistent.

I agree with an earlier poster, De Gea should have been signed a season earlier to work as an understudy to (his hero) Van Der Sar. I actually think that the same should have been done with Scholes replacement, though it has transpired that Scholes replacement is errrrmmm well it is Scholes isn't it.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:29   #36 (permalink)
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:31   #37 (permalink)
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I definitely wouldn't be in favour of this. I think Lindegaard is more than capable of being our number 1 for the time being.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:31   #38 (permalink)
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Cha on points out VDS mistakes but protects DDG errors. At least be more balanced. On crosses it was hard to fault vds. Btw his positioning was excellent.
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:48   #39 (permalink)
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No.

This is not an issue.

Honestly, are we supposed to bring players out of retirement every time a player in the position makes a mistake?
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Old 30th January 2012, 13:58   #40 (permalink)
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He's said innthe media that hes dulled significantly in the months off that he's had and even when he goes to do some training tracking and stopping the longshots presents issues for him like it never used to.

So no.
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