How many of you would welcome a return of VDS?

Unam333 · 30th January 2012, 13:41

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Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark

He's said innthe media that hes dulled significantly in the months off that he's had and even when he goes to do some training tracking and stopping the longshots presents issues for him like it never used to.

So no.

Yup, that's what the great man said after playing in a charity game Ferguson made a big mistake not keeping VDS this season. His final season was his best season for us ffs.

Brosstan · 30th January 2012, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Chabon

It's worth noting that Van Der Sar never had to play this much without either Vidic or Ferdinand, never mind without either of them for the vast majority of the season.

That and he just stopped even trying to save shots which were hit with any great venom in the last couple of years, so those criticising De Gea for Kuyt's goal would presumably be having a collective seizure every couple of weeks.

Thats just bull. Even the record breaking clean sheet run featured several different CB partnerships.

MG · 30th January 2012, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Chabon

It's worth noting that Van Der Sar never had to play this much without either Vidic or Ferdinand, never mind without either of them for the vast majority of the season.

This is an important point that I think has been overlooked.

MG · 30th January 2012, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Brosstan

Thats just bull. Even the record breaking clean sheet run featured several different CB partnerships.

He was rarely without both of them for any extended period of time, especially when he was still bedding into the team when he first moved here (which is what DDG is still doing).

Still ill · 30th January 2012, 14:30

We could have given Howard more time, Foster too. Hope the 2 lads get the same chance to bed in as the rest of our squad. It's a problem in the short term but both have the potential to be excellent keepers. The return of VDS would be a bit of a joke.

adexkola · 30th January 2012, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Kelvin

how is the club ever going to improve if we keep bringing players out of retirement, lets get sir bobby out then while you guys are at it.

It's idiotic. I don't get the reasoning in bringing back retired players.

Freak · 30th January 2012, 15:27

I would definitely have him back without hesitating. Not only would he still be one of the best goalkeepers in the league, but he could guide De Gea.

kouroux · 30th January 2012, 15:29

I'd welcome him with open arms but it'd be a terrible move for the long term confidence of the other keepers.Bringing back Scholes from retirement had a clear reason, the recurring injuries to midfielders.VDS' return would just plainly mean that both DDG and Lindegaard aren't good enough

pauldyson1uk · 30th January 2012, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Chabon

If you don't remember the numerous occasions in the last couple of years that Edwin Van Der Sar's response to a powerfully struck shot was to just fall over then I can only presume we've been watching a different football club.

No I think you must of been , what a crazy statement you have made

Garethw · 30th January 2012, 17:28

DDG hasn't been nearly as bad as some have made out.

SAF's constant rotation of the keepers has fucked him up. No wonder his confidence is shot to pieces.

Chabon · 30th January 2012, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Brosstan

Thats just bull. Even the record breaking clean sheet run featured several different CB partnerships.

I remember that before the Villa game that season it was mentioned that it was the first time we'd played without either Ferdinand or Vidic in something ridiculous like 150 games.

RK · 30th January 2012, 20:23

This is a stupid thread.

Liam147 · 30th January 2012, 20:28

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Originally Posted by iSparky

Its not a long term solution to the problem

This really. Why bring in young keepers, then say 'look, neither of you are good enough to displace a retired 40 year old, let's hope you both get better by training lots'.

Lindegaard's good enough, and De Gea's big problem for me is his lack of confidence and perhaps the language barrier. If he worked on the aerial side of his game he'd be more than ready to play.

marcus agrippa · 30th January 2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by RK

This is a stupid thread.

Aye. It truly is ridiculous the amount of stick DDG is getting.

Mick1991 · 30th January 2012, 21:03

Scholes made sense, this wouldn't. The chances of alienating one of the two keepers here would just be too high, you would just be taking short term relief for more stress down the line.

Better off taking the 'pain' now and helping the keepers we got (two bloody good one's at that) get over their teething and then reap the benefits for years to come.

RedDevilCanuck · 30th January 2012, 21:32

Tough one. I love VDS so much that I would like him back for the rest of the season but that would kill the confidence of our two young keepers.

And VDS was simply amazing for us. It wasn't even about the shot stopping. Stopping shots is a tiny aspect of keeping. There are so many mid and lower table keepers that can stop shots well with reflexes.

VDS' reflexes were on the decline when he came to us and let in some dodgy free kicks and angled shots (Kaka in the CL)

But he hardly made mistakes. I remember a few bad rebounds and the howler last season agaisnt West Brom? But that's about it.

The best thing about VDS was that big and physical sides didn't trouble him. We were also lights out on corners and high balls.

Oh ya, he also played many games without Rio and or Vidic and did well like he always did.

What a keeper.

Successful · 30th January 2012, 22:23

I would even welcome Thomas Kuszczak back if he was given a chance.

England1966 · 30th January 2012, 22:31

NO! Give a chance to the Spanish lad or the Denish, what about to bring back Ronaldo!

Nathan · 31st January 2012, 05:10

Crap, thats what all this is. We have a great squad and need to get the goalkeeper settled.

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30th January 2012, 14:30	#45 (permalink)
Still ill Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,778	We could have given Howard more time, Foster too. Hope the 2 lads get the same chance to bed in as the rest of our squad. It's a problem in the short term but both have the potential to be excellent keepers. The return of VDS would be a bit of a joke.

30th January 2012, 15:27	#47 (permalink)
Freak Born a freak always a freak. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere in your mind, touching a nerve Posts: 10,273	I would definitely have him back without hesitating. Not only would he still be one of the best goalkeepers in the league, but he could guide De Gea.

30th January 2012, 15:29	#48 (permalink)
kouroux First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Djibouti (La terre des braves) Posts: 25,548	I'd welcome him with open arms but it'd be a terrible move for the long term confidence of the other keepers.Bringing back Scholes from retirement had a clear reason, the recurring injuries to midfielders.VDS' return would just plainly mean that both DDG and Lindegaard aren't good enough

30th January 2012, 17:28	#50 (permalink)
Garethw Reserve Team Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England; The home of James Bond, Fish and chips and Chavs! Posts: 4,826	DDG hasn't been nearly as bad as some have made out. SAF's constant rotation of the keepers has fucked him up. No wonder his confidence is shot to pieces.

30th January 2012, 20:23	#52 (permalink)
RK First Team Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13,933	This is a stupid thread.

30th January 2012, 21:03	#55 (permalink)
Mick1991 First Team Sub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 6,071	Scholes made sense, this wouldn't. The chances of alienating one of the two keepers here would just be too high, you would just be taking short term relief for more stress down the line. Better off taking the 'pain' now and helping the keepers we got (two bloody good one's at that) get over their teething and then reap the benefits for years to come.

30th January 2012, 21:32	#56 (permalink)
RedDevilCanuck Quite dreamy - blue eyes, blond hair, tanned skin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The GTA Posts: 3,185	Tough one. I love VDS so much that I would like him back for the rest of the season but that would kill the confidence of our two young keepers. And VDS was simply amazing for us. It wasn't even about the shot stopping. Stopping shots is a tiny aspect of keeping. There are so many mid and lower table keepers that can stop shots well with reflexes. VDS' reflexes were on the decline when he came to us and let in some dodgy free kicks and angled shots (Kaka in the CL) But he hardly made mistakes. I remember a few bad rebounds and the howler last season agaisnt West Brom? But that's about it. The best thing about VDS was that big and physical sides didn't trouble him. We were also lights out on corners and high balls. Oh ya, he also played many games without Rio and or Vidic and did well like he always did. What a keeper.

30th January 2012, 22:23	#57 (permalink)
Successful Straight Guy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: On top of the league Posts: 4,248	I would even welcome Thomas Kuszczak back if he was given a chance.

30th January 2012, 22:31	#58 (permalink)
England1966 Cuckoo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada, Posts: 1,709	NO! Give a chance to the Spanish lad or the Denish, what about to bring back Ronaldo!

31st January 2012, 05:10	#59 (permalink)
Nathan Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Africa Posts: 692	Crap, thats what all this is. We have a great squad and need to get the goalkeeper settled.