How rubbish is Fletcher?

Slabber

I'd say very. What do you all think of the spasticated Scot?

atomic keane

thats racist !

Slabber

True. I'd meant it descriptively though, in the sense that he is a Scot and he is spasticated.

thewelshconjurer

He is not that bad but certainly United deserve better.

Benisi

I think he shouldn't be played on the right, he's way better in the middle.

kanchelskis14

He's not very good obviously. Great attitude and willing tryer, but not very talented. Park should have started instead.

CAlbert

I think he's even better on the bench

Whiteside

he is shiter than a really shite guy

Murt

the whole midfield was a shambles tonight, id say Scholes was the worst tbh.

ooeat0meoo

I thought Fletcher did better tonight....still not great.

As far as the midfield over all...Smith and Scholes (mostly talking about the 2nd half) really sucked. RVN kept running back to the midfield position to cover for them distributing the ball much better than the two of them put together. And we wonder why there are so few points on the board for United. It's because the best striker is back covering for the center midfield.

As for Scholes, he was all fucking pissy the entire 2nd half causing fouls all over the pitch. Lucky he wasn't sent off.

The Hairdryer

Villarreal make it difficult, they slowed down the game, played for fouls, even conceded fouls to slow the game down. After the first five minutes it was really hard for us to get any sort of momentum going. Of course when the team plays shite Fletcher, like always, becomes the softest target. But there was really no one out there tonight, except Rooney for a brief 5 minutes that stood out. They all played poorly.

soccerbest

Well he score the winner aginst chelsea.

But really he is better off playing in the reserves.

wancolos

As a right midfielder, very

ruuds left boot

Not Very

Davo

Very

VanNistelrater

Have to disagree with you there, thought Scholesy was very good today. Sharp and quick with his passing, Fletcher was too indecisive and didnt pass or go forward with any real conviction.

sincher

Van, I preferred it when you were insane, to be honest.

Mozza

Smith did his job fine, Fletch was Fletch, Scholes looks off the pace

Ringo 07

Scholesy wasnt bad at all until he faded badly but theres is not a manager in Europe apart from the Ferg that would have smith and fletcher as midfielders in their starting 11. Its all this loyalty crap where Fergie feels he has to pick Fletcher and Smith because they try hard. He doesnt realise that you also need skill with hard work though

Murt

He gave away too many freekicks and hit several sloppy passes.
He hasnt played a great game for us since i dont know how long.

Edgio

How the fuck do you think we have been as successful as we have over the last 15 years if SAF doesn't recognise skill?

You muppet.

Ringo 07

Listen you absolute rentboy - Im tired of muppets like you not being able to handle fair critisim towards Fergie. He's an absolute legend no doubt and I highely respect the man but he is clearly past his sell by date as a midfield of Smith and Fletcher will prove that point.But then you can look at having the mediocre Carroll in Goal for far too long. Djemba Djemba, Blanc need I continue. Hopefully this will at some point register in your head you twat

Striker10

until fletcher fills out to play in his natural position i'm afraid we'll have to put up with fletcher in that position. Fergie if your reading this... , gotta play park. He's much more natural on the right and deserves to start games.

Mozza

We shouldn't, hes either good enough for the middle or hes on the bench, dont remember Scholes playing 2 seasons of football on the flank to get him strong enough to play in the center.

noodlehair

He's always cap on Right midfield. Always.

I really can't fathom why we keep playing him there

wancolos

I've never ever, ever ever ever, ever ever seen Fletcher beat a man whilst playing on the right wing. Never, ever ever.

kanchelskis14

All this crap about Fletch needing to play in the middle as opposed to the right is overhyped. Yes, he is not a winger. He is however, apparently a footballer, and should be able to pass and control a ball anywhere on the field, even if he doesn't take on 3 men. Beckham was not highly naturally gifted, no more a natural winger than Fletch, not much pace or trickery. He could, however, pass and control the ball, and that was good enough.

golden_blunder

Fletcher was ok, nothing special. However, hes nothing more than a water carrier covering a lot of ground, offering only flashes going forward. He's wasted on the right, he carries no threat there. Play him in the middle but not alongside Smith because he offers little going forward too.

There was flashes of the old Scholes tonight, a few probing passes, one late surge into the box where i thought he was gonna score. Cant tackle for shit though, lucky not to get a 2nd yellow.

ManUtdFan

What you have said about Beckham is true but Beckham those have qualities in his footballing abilities which are world clas: Crossing, Vision & Freekicks.
As much as I do not wish to bash Fletcher again, his current abilities are not exactly outstanding.
Give me Beckham's footballing abilities over Fletcher's anyday.
To play on the wings, you need either very good dribbling skills, crossing abilities, trickery or pace. Fletcher do not have these skills to make him an effective winger. Thus I feel that he should play in the middle instead of the wing position, which should be given to Park.
Scholes, on the other hand, was flat and stale in his play today (except for a few nice long passes) which was pretty much what he has been for a long time. After his displays against Charlton, I was hoping and praying that Scholes has rediscovered his footballing skills and return to the world beating midfielder he once was. I was rather disappointed today...

manutd10

He should be at least tried in Smith's position in the centre, I think he will do a better job there.

fredthered

had to laugh.

Nicked this off another forum and it does sum up Fletcher to a tee.

Fletcher is a fine player who just lacks pace, control, vision, strength, bravery, determination, positional sense, stamina, imagination, dead-ball skills, passing accuracy, dribbling skills, accurate shooting, desire and heart.

TheDevil'sOwn

They could have just said he was great in the air and been done with it.

kanchelskis14

Uea i saw that theother day myself. Spot on too, except for the bravery and determination, desire and heart. He tries very hard, just that he is an average player, and how he became an automatic choice for a club of this stature for over a year is beyond me.

kanchelskis14

My point is that he doesn't have to be an excellent inger, but Rio Ferdinand wouldn't give the ball away every time, and fail to control most passes because he was on the wing. It is all to do with footballing abilities, and Fletcher, this great central midfielder we refer to 'he is wasted on the right, he must play in the middle', is less talented than our central defender Rio Ferdinand. And by some distance.

fredthered

FLetcher is a pure Attack attack attack footballer, who plays with Keano style passion in every game he plays in...

The Hairdryer

A typical overreaction by a typical idiot.

Isn't if funny how Forlan used to lack all those things too? Someone in our squad will always lack those things according to some muppet somewhere. Just the nature of new breed United fans.

Romaleouf

Another thread on Fletcher?

Fletcher on the right = negative contribution going forward. Cutting back, slowing down attacking moves. He is probably just the extention on the mock wall for freekick practices, just another man to widen the wall, just another player to make up 11.

Should have started with Park, but just as I predicted, Sir Alex starts with him instead of Park. Note that once on, Park's first contribution was a measured header to Rooney, but Rooney took too much time to decide what to do and was closed down.

Let's change the scenario, how about playing Fletcher in Smith's position and Smith on the right? Smith used to play there for Leeds as well. Nah..... Smith would end up covering for Fletcher like he always does now.

Bummer, we are stuck with Fletcher on the right, where Park could have offered more.

But remember, who scored the intended header against Chelsea? FLETCHER!

Lion

Fletcher shouldn't play on the right.
But Scholes was our worst midfielder last night and should have been substituted.

reelworld

I wonder why this thread didn't come up against Charlton.

Oh right, we won that one.

beycont

Fletcher didn't have a good game, just too slow to play on the wing and has the tendancy to misplace simple passes.

Anyone notice that Rooney was rather subdued in the 2nd half? Probably all the football the past few weeks catching up with him?