How rubbish is Fletcher?

vijay

Djemba was considered as a lesser version of Makalele but with Butt's being inconsistent he wasnt a bad option. But he never had a reputation like the other bloke the the rent boys signed this season.

Kleberson apart from a good world cup was nothing but a bit and pieces footballer.

You cannot say the same about Park. Can you?

vijay

So if Fortune had given enough chances like Fletcher.... Do you reckon he would've made it?

devilish

Kleberson was a player who rose to stardom because Emerson got injured. He wasnt a bad player but he didnt had the physical characteristics for an EPL side, he had never played in Europe + he was played much of the time out of position and was never given a proper first team run. Djemba was average in France as much as he was average with us. So I wouldnt consider them at par with Park.

On the other hand Fletcher had been an average player throughout his young career so I wonder why we dont consider him as so.

Saq

-----------vds-----------

---gary----- rio ----wes---- silvestre---

----smith---- scholes(or new DM)-----

--------rooney---------

---ronaldo---ruud------saha(rossi)---

why not to try it?
TOTAL FOOTBALL

redmanc

Fletcher was shite, he had a pass completion ratio of about zero from what i saw.

g_0405

Fortune was given more than enough chances in the first team.

Slabber

I can but I won't. Thicko. Ask someone else.

devilish

No if he was Scottish he would have been considered at par with Darren Fletcher.

In my opinion neither Fletcher nor Fortune had actually made it. I mean, at Barca, Juventus, AC Milan or at any team which are considered as geniune contenders for both the CL and the League title (even in our treble winning team_ Fortune and Fletcher would either be rotting in the reserves with little chance of ever playing or loaned to some Serie B side with the hope of getting that odd 1 million out of them.

reelworld

bollocks.
If that was the case, Darren Ferguson would've captain our first team rather than playing in the 2n div club.

devilish

those were different times. If I remember well We had Ince and Keane at that time with Scholes, Beckham and Butt coming through the ranks. If Darren played at that time he wouldnt have made the bench.

reelworld

That has no relation whatsoever with my point.

The argument that you use to justified Fletch place on the team is because he's scottish.

Now, let me repeat that again, Ferguson has shown not an ounce of favouritsm for his countryman before, so there are no reason why he's doing it now.

Your argument has no ground at all.

Romaleouf

Which leaves me recalling a post some time ago, at the end of the day, if Fletcher, whom a lot of people believe have loads of potential, does not deliver after numerous chances to show what he can do, he would go down the path the same way Luke Chadwick went.

Luke Chadwick was once touted as the "Next Beckham" with close control dribbling, moves down the wing to the bye line and crosses in to the strikers.

He was same as Fletcher, lanky. Same build and body frame, a bit on the light side. But, in retrospect, Luke Chadwick offered much more going forward. You can see defenders tracking back, even double teaming to stop him, because once Chadwick gets to the byeline, a crosss would come in. Low and hard, high and curling, nevertheless, the forward line benefited, and scored sometimes.

Whereas Fletcher with all his immense talent, tends to cut back, pass a square ball inward or worst of all, make a pass to the right back standing by behind him. Therefore, as a right midfield, Fletcher offers nothing to the team, and by starting Park, there is at least an option going forward.

Therefore, a few posts in this thread ago, I tried to suggest letting Smith play on the right and Fletcher in the middle. Might not work, be a disaster, a fiasco, or on the other hand, Smith could offer more going forward as he has experience playing there for Leeds, and Fletcher could scurry around and harry the opponents in front of the back line. Now that Keane is gone, Fletcher does not need to pass the ball back to anyone, he can be creative, more advanturous and do what he and those who believed in him expected him to do, make penetrative passes which would result in goals for us.