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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:21   #1 (permalink)
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Howard Webb Ref on Sunday

Webb will be in charge on Sunday

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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:23   #2 (permalink)
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Well its in the Chelsea game thread.
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Everyone says he is on United's payroll but he is the most experienced ref. I'd claim he has more chance of making the correct decisions than the rest of them.
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It's idiotic people are making such a big fuss about who is going to be the ref. which is all due to the incompetency from the FA.
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Just because he gave us a pen against Liverpool... I still remember him allowing Adebayor's goal in 2008, the tackle on Ronaldo from Birmingham in 2006 which lead to them scoring, his failure to send off Palacios in 2009 to name a few.
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In huge games like this the referee is always in the spotlight. There's no getting away from it.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:26   #7 (permalink)
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I'd ref it, bit I'm doing a Sunday roast with the missus.
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I'd ref it, bit I'm doing a Sunday roast with the missus.
You were my initial appointment, Paddy Crerand being the other
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It's idiotic people are making such a big fuss about who is going to be the ref. which is all due to the incompetency from the FA.
I think we should really be concentrating on how we can go about beating Chelsea instead of worrying about getting the right ref and having decisions go our way. It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game.

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Just because he gave us a pen against Liverpool... I still remember him allowing Adebayor's goal in 2008, the tackle on Ronaldo from Birmingham in 2006 which lead to them scoring, his failure to send off Palacios in 2009 to name a few.
Yeah, but in the same game as he didn't send Palacios off, he gave us a five goal penalty, so that evens it up.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:32   #11 (permalink)
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i'm delighted.... here's my comment form the Arsenal match thread....

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tbh I'd love Webb to ref this one. I'm sure that if one of our players was hacked down in the Arsenal's box he would give a peno. strangely i don't see it happening with other refs officiating our games.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:32   #12 (permalink)
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To be honest I would have been happy with any ref as long it wasn't Atkinson....and Clattenburg (if he yet exists).

We have a decent record under Webb so I won't be complaining.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:34   #13 (permalink)
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Chelsea must be gutted they might not get any ghost goals given.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 12:35   #14 (permalink)
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Make this clean and fair like the CL ties please... We definitely have the qualtiy to beat them.
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I think we should really be concentrating on how we can go about beating Chelsea instead of worrying about getting the right ref and having decisions go our way. It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game.


Exactly. We should we concentrating on the football rather than the ref.
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I think we should really be concentrating on how we can go about beating Chelsea instead of worrying about getting the right ref and having decisions go our way. It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game.



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Man United set to recall Howard Webb for crucial Chelsea clash
Howard Webb recalled for Man United Chelsea clash

Manchester United are rumoured to be considering the recall of referee Howard Webb to their starting twelve for the crucial Premier League title clash against closest rivals Chelsea.

Man United set to recall Howard Webb for crucial Chelsea clash

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Webb favours United? No. Liverpool FC pathetic? Yes - Real Football - FIFA 11: EA Forums
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I think we should really be concentrating on how we can go about beating Chelsea instead of worrying about getting the right ref and having decisions go our way. It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game.
That's the problem though, isn't it? Chelsea aren't a particularly easy side to beat, so a single bad refereeing decision can potentially decide the result (as has been proven in practice). It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game, but a refereeing performance clearly can and does make a difference.

I don't think anyone requires a ref who'll make all decisions our way - just give us a ref who gives reds, yellows, offsides, free kicks, penalties and goals in a fair and justified manner on both sides and I expect us to win.
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No matter who the ref is he's bound to get at least one major decision wrong, it seems par for the course nowadays.

Don't mind who we have though as long as it's not Atkinson or Dean.

Us showing a bias for a particular ref may ensure we don't see too much of them in the future though...and vice versa....so we should perhaps think before we post. These forums can be read by anyone.
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Chelsea must be gutted they might not get any ghost goals given.
United must be happy, their favorite referee will be in charge.
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Old 3rd May 2011, 13:11   #23 (permalink)
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United must be happy, their favorite referee will be in charge.
See this link posted previously.... Webb favours United? No. Liverpool FC pathetic? Yes - Real Football - FIFA 11: EA Forums
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Man United set to recall Howard Webb for crucial Chelsea clash
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Manchester United are rumoured to be considering the recall of referee Howard Webb to their starting twelve for the crucial Premier League title clash against closest rivals Chelsea.

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United must be happy, their favorite referee will be in charge.
I gather you'd rather see Atkinson was in charge. Obviously this is true as it would greatly increase your chances of winning.
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Now this is what I call Champions league final.....

Manchester United - Chelsea
Stadium: Old Trafford
Ref: Howard Webb

For me.. This is the game of the season in which with a draw we are winning on penalties
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Old 3rd May 2011, 13:29   #27 (permalink)
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Watch the media make a fuss about Webb favouring United, just before the game on Sunday. Which will lead to us getting feck all, just like in recent months.
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That's the problem though, isn't it? Chelsea aren't a particularly easy side to beat, so a single bad refereeing decision can potentially decide the result (as has been proven in practice). It shouldn't matter one bit who referees the game, but a refereeing performance clearly can and does make a difference.

I don't think anyone requires a ref who'll make all decisions our way - just give us a ref who gives reds, yellows, offsides, free kicks, penalties and goals in a fair and justified manner on both sides and I expect us to win.
It definitely does. The last three league games many here like to complain about are great examples.

Evans kicking Drogba in a chest and getting away with it, with Atkinson giving Drogba a yellow instead(he must have forgot he's on Chelsea payroll). Gary Neville running through Anelka in a penalty box without even an attempt to get the ball. Macheda scoring United's only goal with his arm. Rooney playing and scoring MU's only goal this year at the Bridge although he should have served a ban instead for elbowing McCarty in a previous game. Now another key player and your captain Vidic gets away with a red card offence and is available for the crucial game(had it been Terry I'd imagine the outrage here).

See, it's not about United being hard done by the officials against Chelsea in recent years. It's the fact that you lost those games is what's eating at Fergie and MU fan base. Had you won those matches, no one here would give two shits about refereeing and some may even acknowledge that you were fortunate in some respect. But then again, it's easy to be magnanimous toward your opponents after you beat them.
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Watch the media make a fuss about Webb favouring United, just before the game on Sunday. Which will lead to us getting feck all, just like in recent months.
I doubt it.Webb may make the odd gaff here and there but I think he's an honest ref who will be fair to both.

This won't be on ref decisions at any rate.
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It definitely does. The last three league games many here like to complain about are great examples.

Evans kicking Drogba in a chest and getting away with it, with Atkinson giving Drogba a yellow instead(he must have forgot he's on Chelsea payroll). Gary Neville running through Anelka in a penalty box without even an attempt to get the ball. Macheda scoring United's only goal with his arm. Rooney playing and scoring MU's only goal this year at the Bridge although he should have served a ban instead for elbowing McCarty in a previous game. Now another key player and your captain Vidic gets away with a red card offence and is available for the crucial game(had it been Terry I'd imagine the outrage here).

See, it's not about United being hard done by the officials against Chelsea in recent years. It's the fact that you lost those games is what's eating at Fergie and MU fan base. Had you won those matches, no one here would give two shits about refereeing and some may even acknowledge that you were fortunate in some respect. But then again, it's easy to be magnanimous toward your opponents after you beat them.
Funny how selective you are. No mention of two howlers against Spurs.Luiz should have been off at the Bridge,Zhirkov's dive etc
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we will beat them. no help from refs needed.
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It definitely does. The last three league games many here like to complain about are great examples.

Evans kicking Drogba in a chest and getting away with it, with Atkinson giving Drogba a yellow instead(he must have forgot he's on Chelsea payroll). Gary Neville running through Anelka in a penalty box without even an attempt to get the ball. Macheda scoring United's only goal with his arm. Rooney playing and scoring MU's only goal this year at the Bridge although he should have served a ban instead for elbowing McCarty in a previous game. Now another key player and your captain Vidic gets away with a red card offence and is available for the crucial game(had it been Terry I'd imagine the outrage here).

See, it's not about United being hard done by the officials against Chelsea in recent years. It's the fact that you lost those games is what's eating at Fergie and MU fan base. Had you won those matches, no one here would give two shits about refereeing and some may even acknowledge that you were fortunate in some respect. But then again, it's easy to be magnanimous toward your opponents after you beat them.
Funny that, would it be because you lot won those games that you're acting like you don't give two shits about refereeing?
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we will beat them. no help from refs needed.
We don't need help from refs, just competency from refs (& linesmen).
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Funny how selective you are. No mention of two howlers against Spurs.Luiz should have been off at the Bridge,Zhirkov's dive etc
That's not his point, he says that decisions goes both ways. I tend to agree with him, although there have been som really high profile cock ups by Martin Atkinson which we've got against us.
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That's not his point, he says that decisions goes both ways. I tend to agree with him, although there have been som really high profile cock ups by Martin Atkinson which we've got against us.
I'd agree but he managed to exclude one side of events in his description.
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It definitely does. The last three league games many here like to complain about are great examples.

Evans kicking Drogba in a chest and getting away with it, with Atkinson giving Drogba a yellow instead(he must have forgot he's on Chelsea payroll). Gary Neville running through Anelka in a penalty box without even an attempt to get the ball. Macheda scoring United's only goal with his arm. Rooney playing and scoring MU's only goal this year at the Bridge although he should have served a ban instead for elbowing McCarty in a previous game. Now another key player and your captain Vidic gets away with a red card offence and is available for the crucial game(had it been Terry I'd imagine the outrage here).

See, it's not about United being hard done by the officials against Chelsea in recent years. It's the fact that you lost those games is what's eating at Fergie and MU fan base. Had you won those matches, no one here would give two shits about refereeing and some may even acknowledge that you were fortunate in some respect. But then again, it's easy to be magnanimous toward your opponents after you beat them.
Yup, so like I said, refereeing decisions can and do make a difference.
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Funny how selective you are. No mention of two howlers against Spurs.Luiz should have been off at the Bridge,Zhirkov's dive etc
I didn't say Chelsea weren't getting some big decisions their way against you, of course we were. The point is, fans tend to concentrate on the calls that went against their team and ignore or downplay the opposite view.

What makes it worse is that your own manager perpetuates that myth in order to get into a referee's head ahead of the game and he's been doing it for a very long time. Of course for you lot he's a valiant hero who's fighting for his noble cause against evil pro-Chelsea FA and not a shameless hypocrite trying to use every trick in the book to gain an advantage against his strongest opponent.
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Anyone but Atkinson is fine. It's not just in the Chelsea games he's been awful. I still remember that clear pen we should have had at OT vs Portsmouth in 2009 in the FA Cup qf.
Also he was the linesman in that title game at Highbury were Arsenal scored two offside goals in 2003. He supports Leeds does not help either in my hatred for him.

Apart from him I don't mind who the ref is, as we've got decisions both for and against us from others.
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Considering his showing in the World Cup final, that will give the Chavs their ususal licence to kick us all round the park & not get any cards....great!

Mind you, if it also means that Vidic can get away with bringing someone down in the box, I guess that's fair enough....pitty Gary Neville isn't playing...
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I didn't say Chelsea weren't getting some big decisions their way against you, of course we were. The point is, fans tend to concentrate on the calls that went against their team and ignore or downplay the opposite view.

What makes it worse is that your own manager perpetuates that myth in order to get into a referee's head ahead of the game and he's been doing it for a very long time. Of course for you lot he's a valiant hero who's fighting for his noble cause against evil pro-Chelsea FA and not a shameless hypocrite trying to use every trick in the book to gain an advantage against his strongest opponent.
Odd you paint a negative picture of SAF when you had JM who acted in much the same way. Did you ever complain when cleaning up trophy after trophy?
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