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18th August 2010, 09:54
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If Rooney's form doesn't improve...
Ok, let me say straight off, I love Wayne Rooney, and I would bet my house on his form improving dramatically as the season goes on.
Here's a hypothetical though, what if...like when playing for England during the WC, he didn't perform to the levels we know he can. How many bad games does Fergie let him have before he doesn't start him? |
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18th August 2010, 09:56
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I remember last pre-season thinking he didn't look very sharp and that his place could be under threat. As soon as the real stuff started, he kicked in in a big way. He'll probably do the same this season.
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18th August 2010, 09:58
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How many more performances like the one against the barcodes would you start Rooney for? Especially with players like Henandez and Macheda chomping at the bit! |
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18th August 2010, 09:59
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One goal is all it will take.
We've seen it time and time again with Rooney, when he doesnt' score he suffers, but one of them is going to roll the right side of the post or threw the grasp of the keeper one of these days soon and he'll kick on from there as usual. Patience is the key with Wayne. |
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18th August 2010, 10:00
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What do they say about form and class?
He'll improve. He just needs a goal to get him started. Did you see that flick through from the outside off his foot from a Scholes pass in the Newcastle game? I know it's a hypothetical but he's just too good a player to go a long run of games without picking up form. Fergie will play him until he hits it off. He'll only ever be dropped if he needs a rest. |
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18th August 2010, 10:02
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He's nowhere near 100% fit, he needs first team matches to get himself back to full fitness and once he does he'll be fine. Same every year with him. I just hope he gets himself sorted by the time we play the dippers.
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18th August 2010, 10:04
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He never usually starts of brilliantly anyway. Even in 06/07 when we were brilliant he never really hit top stride until about November. Last season he started off well then had a couple of bad months.
As others have said, he needs to get his fitness back up, get his confidence back and he needs to stop trying too hard. The old saying, "Form is temporary, class is permanent" springs to mind here. He'll come good. |
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18th August 2010, 10:48
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Looked completely fucked by 30 mins in. For some reason he looked completely different. Maybe an english tan, but he was weird to look at.
Get back to being pale and scoring goals 
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18th August 2010, 10:55
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18th August 2010, 10:55
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If fit, he won't be dropped just for form. As it should be.
We all know that even an out of sorts Rooney always gives 100% effort and makes things happen and can galvanise the team, and sometimes that is just as important as a killer pass or a goal. |
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18th August 2010, 10:58
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18th August 2010, 11:03
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18th August 2010, 11:04
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maybe the kid needs a break - an extra week or two
the best thing is that i would quite happily play berbatov and hernandez against fulham at the weekend - i don't think we could have said that last season - berbatov has been excellent lately the two players in our squad most in danger of post world cup burn out are rooney and evra - they didnt get a break last season, we're rushed back from injury by club and country and we really need to ensure they are rotated - hopefully fabio can get a run of fitness and give patrice a break |
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18th August 2010, 11:04
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18th August 2010, 11:05
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18th August 2010, 11:09
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 And to be fair you didn't say he was undroppable, that is a common view here though, and it just astounds me that anybody can consider any player undroppable.
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18th August 2010, 11:10
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theoretically if wayne plays below par for a sustained period then he should be dropped
the place in the squad is based on merit and has to be earned its a silly thread after a decent game against chelsea and one poor one against newcastle |
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18th August 2010, 11:15
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No need to get defensive because you didn't read my OP properly. |
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18th August 2010, 11:15
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Folks, this is SAF we're talking about here. If Rooney does not hit form soon enough and our other strikers are on form, sure as hell Rooney will be dropped. For SAF no single player is bigger than the club. Just ask Ronaldo, RVN et al
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18th August 2010, 11:18
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I just don't think Rooney's current form is bad, nor do I think being subbed will do him any favour at this time of the season when the players are raring to go. |
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18th August 2010, 11:20
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18th August 2010, 11:24
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he needs minutes to get fit. happens ever year, he becomes a fat scouser over the summer and needs time to lose it all.
even still he was all that bad vs. newcastle. caused problems to their defence and used the ball ok. If he's not back to form by the end of september, then we can start to think about dropping him. |
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18th August 2010, 11:25
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18th August 2010, 11:27
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18th August 2010, 11:28
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18th August 2010, 11:31
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Dear RHD.. I need your advice. My girlfriend recently..
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English players have the rep for goin on the piss the whole summer & then have to bust serious gut in pre-season to get some sort of fitness back. There's no moderation with those blokes - its all or nothing! |
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18th August 2010, 11:32
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18th August 2010, 11:44
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Dear RHD.. I need your advice. My girlfriend recently..
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 Although, its just disappointing when you compare him to the Nevilles, Scholesy, Giggsy, Becks & many other local / local'ish United players recent past & present & they never had this continous sluggish start to the season in terms of fitness... Its his life & body to do what he wants to do, but I remember what Floyd Mayweather's trainer said about Ricky Hatton, he said that you cant punish your body with poor diet & alcohol & then expect it to recover or be able to sustain a career into his 30's. I would hate to see Ronney washed out at 30 just because he liked to go on the rip for 6wks or more every Summer! |
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18th August 2010, 12:06
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However, it is also unfair to compare him to the likes of giggs as giggs is genetically gifted with having a slim and athletic physique that will never put on weight. |
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18th August 2010, 12:10
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