I'm falling in love with this team

rcoobc · 28th October 2012, 19:53

I'm falling in love with this team.

Shades of 99 are appearing with four great strikers, shades of 08 with three world class players. Goals galore and never say die. Can't defend but who cares right, that will come.

Oh and Carrick-Rooney at opposite ends of the diamond will look amazing by season end

Duffy · 28th October 2012, 19:55

I thought this about last years team at the start, suppose its a more improved version today. I like it, I like the direction we are going in although not smooth and slick some day we get it done and no doubt we will be there or there abouts come may.

Either way I love any United team, it's United!

Adam-Utd · 28th October 2012, 19:55

The way we seem to crumble under pressure certainly isnt 99' like, but in rooney and van persie we have a truelly world class strike team.

samabachan · 28th October 2012, 19:56

The team looks lazy, complacent and sloppy in 99% of games, struggling to see it as anything special so far and I spend large parts of most games shouting at the screen in frustration. I will admit to having a big man crush on RvP though

Ole's_toe_poke · 28th October 2012, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

I'm falling in love with this team.

Shades of 99 are appearing with four great strikers, shades of 08 with three world class players. Goals galore and never say die. Can't defend but who cares right, that will come.

Oh and Carrick-Rooney at opposite ends of the diamond will look amazing by season end

ATM I find us more 01/02 with the shambolic defending and goals galore than 98/99.

Snow · 28th October 2012, 19:57

It's entertaining for someone every time we play. That's at least something.

kps88 · 28th October 2012, 19:59

We had an iffy start in 99 as well. This team will click into form eventually and it will be glorious.

Cee90 · 28th October 2012, 19:59

Can't say I agree with you.

In general I haven't been impressed with our performances this season, it feels there is just something missing.

Robbie Boy · 28th October 2012, 19:59

I don't get this thread.

CR#7 · 28th October 2012, 20:00

a nice positive post for a change good to see

charleysurf · 28th October 2012, 20:00

As usual people forget that the 98/99 team was plenty ordinary in games for much of the season.
But I still think they had more leaders than this side.

I do quite like this squad though. Certainly full of goals, and a number of homegrown players.

noodlehair · 28th October 2012, 20:00

I'm loving the entertainment value. The 99 team had a spine though.

This one has a half fit Michael Carrick.

Cold_Boy · 28th October 2012, 20:00

What?

rcoobc · 28th October 2012, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodlehair

I'm loving the entertainment value. The 99 team had a spine though.

This one has a half fit Michael Carrick.

That is very true

Devil may care · 28th October 2012, 20:09

Drama in every game so never a dull moment that's for sure.

wr8_utd · 28th October 2012, 20:10

We have 3 clean sheets and it's November already. We're definitely entertainig!

acnumber9 · 28th October 2012, 20:26

To have 21 points without having come close to top form, with the injuries we've had at the back given how difficult some of our away fixtures have been is something to be very happy about. It's got to worry the rest that we have so many match winners in the squad.

Utd heap · 28th October 2012, 20:28

Glimpses of a top side forming IMO.

Bit of bite and menace in our tackles today too.

Thisistheone · 28th October 2012, 20:42

We also had the best midfield in Europe in '99.

Still loving this team though. Brilliant to watch, so many goals in us.

Sarni · 28th October 2012, 20:44

It has no midfield and struggles to control games. Any games, not just the ones against half decent opposition.

VoetbalWizard · 28th October 2012, 21:32

i will wait until we face one of barca, madrid, or bayern to pass judgment on this side.

VII · 28th October 2012, 22:21

And here I am thinking we've been very poor so far. Only lucky to have Chicharito and van Persie saved us on numerous occasions. Almost every game we've looked like we're gonna lose. Today even when Chelsea was down to 9 men I was still bricking it in the 94th min.

Still ill · 28th October 2012, 22:30

We're a joy to watch for the neutrals. I'm like an Alan Hansen impersonator in front of the box every week, though. That's not a good thing. Maybe it's my advancing years, but a bit more control wouldn't hurt. There's only so much unpredictability I can take.

Siorac · 28th October 2012, 22:33

Who's the third world class player, OP? Rooney, Van Persie and...?

VoetbalWizard · 28th October 2012, 22:37

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Originally Posted by Siorac

Who's the third world class player, OP? Rooney, Van Persie and...?

anderson

gooDevil · 28th October 2012, 22:44

Nani of course.

Van Piorsing · 28th October 2012, 22:49

It's precisely what Fergie said before start of the season... It's gonna be a ride with lots of thrillers, indeed. He only forgot to add - with shit load of goals ! This club is making the league far more exciting, not for the first time. TV stations and sponsors must love it.

Manchester United, the first cinematic action football club. (Suarez will propably win the Oscar, though)

RedDevil [NC] · 28th October 2012, 22:57

You can see all the signs of them clicking but they also go through spells where there unsure which direction to go. But like alot of people this team jsut has something about them that makes it easy to fall in love with them. Youth mixed with class

Thick Numpty · 28th October 2012, 23:06

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Originally Posted by VII

And here I am thinking we've been very poor so far. Only lucky to have Chicharito and van Persie saved us on numerous occasions. Almost every game we've looked like we're gonna lose. Today even when Chelsea was down to 9 men I was still bricking it in the 94th min.

I don't get this way of thinking.

"If it wasn't for RVP or Hernandez we'd be fucked".

Well, yeah, but we do have them, because we signed them, to score goals which win us games. Which they have done.

rcoobc · 28th October 2012, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siorac

Who's the third world class player, OP? Rooney, Van Persie and...?

Valencia imo.

Even though he hasn't hit his heights at some points this season.

marjen · 29th October 2012, 00:37

There's been a while since we looked as adept at cutting through teams as we do now. RvP's making us absolutely lethal.

It would be nice if we could defend at times though. I'm sure we'll improve when we have some fit defenders, and De Gea remembers he's not a 15 year-old about to lose his virginity.

Gazza · 29th October 2012, 00:40

Rafael personifies the entire United team right now. He symbolizes our spirit, attacking adventure and occasional defensive naivety. And I love Rafael lots and lots, same with this United team.

Relevated · 29th October 2012, 00:43

We just need for all our players to be fit so we can get some consistency and everything it just needs time

Brwned · 29th October 2012, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Adam-Utd

The way we seem to crumble under pressure certainly isnt 99' like, but in rooney and van persie we have a truelly world class strike team.

How many times have we 'crumbled under pressure'?! And if today's performance is an example of that then yes, it is '99-like, given how we threw away a 2-0 lead and a 3-2 lead v Barcelona and a one goal lead v Bayern (from 1-0 down) to ultimately draw both games, in between which we lost 3-0 v Arsenal, and then a couple of months later we did the exact same thing by throwing away 1 goal leads v Bayern and Barcelona...all before we'd even gotten to December.

Ole's_toe_poke · 29th October 2012, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazza

Rafael personifies the entire United team right now. He symbolizes our spirit, attacking adventure and occasional defensive naivety. And I love Rafael lots and lots, same with this United team.

Nah. Rafa has been amazing this season in terms of consistency. Can't remember any really stupid things he's done. Been our best defender.

If anything experienced heads like Ferdinand and Evra have been inconsistent while Rafa and Evans the so called younger guns have been consistent.

Siorac · 29th October 2012, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

Valencia imo.

Even though he hasn't hit his heights at some points this season.

Oh.

He's not really world class. He's very good at what he does but not world class.

amolbhatia100 · 29th October 2012, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcoobc

I'm falling in love with this team.

Shades of 99 are appearing with four great strikers, shades of 08 with three world class players. Goals galore and never say die. Can't defend but who cares right, that will come.

Oh and Carrick-Rooney at opposite ends of the diamond will look amazing by season end

We have individual ability but right now we have a huge lack of fluidity in our play. Can't see how a team still struggling to find fluidity can be compared with one of the club's greatest ever teams. After 20 mins we were camped in our own have FFS. And this is against Chelsea, not Barca.

What is fantastic right now is the individual ability we have to get us 3 points when the team plays poorly. And yesterday's result was absolutely brilliant.

I would say it's the opposite with me. I'm not very excited by this team. I was elated yesterday of course because of the RESULT, but in general, barring Van Persie, the team in general doesn't excite me much. We've played some very dull football this season and I'm talking about our general rather than the scoreline.

Randall Flagg · 29th October 2012, 09:10

Apart from great strikers I see nothing at all to compare this side with 99. Not even close IMO.

I'm not liking the amount of goals we are leaking. I hope when Vidic finally comes back this changes.

Anduin · 29th October 2012, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by acnumber9

To have 21 points without having come close to top form, with the injuries we've had at the back given how difficult some of our away fixtures have been is something to be very happy about. It's got to worry the rest that we have so many match winners in the squad.

Agreed, and we already got the trips to Goodison Park, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and St. James' Park out of our way (with 9/12 points, last season it was 4/12).
After Arsenal next weekend we've got Villa (a), Norwich (a), QPR (h), West Ham (h) and Reading (a) leading up to the derby at Eastlands. That's as good a fixture list as we could hope for. Hopefully Vidic will be back too.

Forevergiggs · 29th October 2012, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Apart from great strikers I see nothing at all to compare this side with 99. Not even close IMO.

I'm not liking the amount of goals we are leaking. I hope when Vidic finally comes back this changes.

Unless we address the midfield situation, or Fletcher reincarnates into his 2008-2010 self, nothing is really going to change. We are going to have the same problem against every team with a half decent midfield. People often talk about defensive partnerships, I think midfield partnerships are equally important. Even last season our best run of games came when we were playing Carrick-Scholes nearly every league game.

Each time our midfield has been put under pressure, it has crumbled. Carrick is excellent in 90% of the games but in the other 10% he easily loses the ball under very little pressing or isn't brave enough to put in a tackle. Cleverley/Anderson are not consistently starting and as a reason haven't developed an understanding with the other guy starting with them. We have conceded some ridiculously easy goals this season by basically allowing the opposition player to just walk past our midfield. Bale, Kightly are the two that stand out in the memory from the previous few games. We leave huge holes in the middle of the park, it's annoying as fuck. The defense is repeatedly pushed into hopeless situations or where Evans/Rio have to make dangerous challenges.

We are fortunate that we have an amazing array of attacking talent, that so far has been good enough to score more than the opposition in most games. We will keep creating plenty of chances in attack but would remain suspect until the right midfielder is available.

28th October 2012, 19:53	#1 (permalink)
rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The treble gone Posts: 23,059	I'm falling in love with this team I'm falling in love with this team. Shades of 99 are appearing with four great strikers, shades of 08 with three world class players. Goals galore and never say die. Can't defend but who cares right, that will come. Oh and Carrick-Rooney at opposite ends of the diamond will look amazing by season end

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28th October 2012, 19:55	#2 (permalink)
Duffy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sulking by the cigerette machine, by the back bar. This time, you've gone too far... Posts: 2,817	I thought this about last years team at the start, suppose its a more improved version today. I like it, I like the direction we are going in although not smooth and slick some day we get it done and no doubt we will be there or there abouts come may. Either way I love any United team, it's United!

28th October 2012, 19:55	#3 (permalink)
Adam-Utd First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,972	The way we seem to crumble under pressure certainly isnt 99' like, but in rooney and van persie we have a truelly world class strike team.

28th October 2012, 19:56	#4 (permalink)
samabachan Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Football is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom Posts: 9,822	The team looks lazy, complacent and sloppy in 99% of games, struggling to see it as anything special so far and I spend large parts of most games shouting at the screen in frustration. I will admit to having a big man crush on RvP though

28th October 2012, 19:57	#6 (permalink)
Snow First Team Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like turtles Posts: 16,874	It's entertaining for someone every time we play. That's at least something.

28th October 2012, 19:59	#7 (permalink)
kps88 First Team Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,203	We had an iffy start in 99 as well. This team will click into form eventually and it will be glorious.

28th October 2012, 19:59	#8 (permalink)
Cee90 Redcafe Fantasy Football Champion 2012/13 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Main Forum... Occupation: Superhero... Hung Like: A Donkey... Posts: 805	Can't say I agree with you. In general I haven't been impressed with our performances this season, it feels there is just something missing.

28th October 2012, 19:59	#9 (permalink)
Robbie Boy Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: No player in World football could score against Stoke on a wet Wednesday night at the Brittania. Posts: 2,790	I don't get this thread.

28th October 2012, 20:00	#10 (permalink)
CR#7 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,575	a nice positive post for a change good to see

28th October 2012, 20:00	#11 (permalink)
charleysurf Talks sense Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,249	As usual people forget that the 98/99 team was plenty ordinary in games for much of the season. But I still think they had more leaders than this side. I do quite like this squad though. Certainly full of goals, and a number of homegrown players.

28th October 2012, 20:00	#12 (permalink)
noodlehair "It's like..." Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Flagg Posts: 4,270	I'm loving the entertainment value. The 99 team had a spine though. This one has a half fit Michael Carrick.

28th October 2012, 20:00	#13 (permalink)
Cold_Boy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London Posts: 20,139	What?

28th October 2012, 20:09	#15 (permalink)
Devil may care First Team Sub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,720	Drama in every game so never a dull moment that's for sure.

28th October 2012, 20:10	#16 (permalink)
wr8_utd :'( Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28,310	We have 3 clean sheets and it's November already. We're definitely entertainig!

28th October 2012, 20:26	#17 (permalink)
acnumber9 Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,907	To have 21 points without having come close to top form, with the injuries we've had at the back given how difficult some of our away fixtures have been is something to be very happy about. It's got to worry the rest that we have so many match winners in the squad.

28th October 2012, 20:28	#18 (permalink)
Utd heap First Team Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12,847	Glimpses of a top side forming IMO. Bit of bite and menace in our tackles today too.

28th October 2012, 20:42	#19 (permalink)
Thisistheone Reserve Team Player Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,921	We also had the best midfield in Europe in '99. Still loving this team though. Brilliant to watch, so many goals in us.

28th October 2012, 20:44	#20 (permalink)
Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan. Thinks hes intelligent though. Nutter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Krakow Posts: 25,789	It has no midfield and struggles to control games. Any games, not just the ones against half decent opposition.

28th October 2012, 21:32	#21 (permalink)
VoetbalWizard Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: at the altar of ryan giggs Posts: 12,597	i will wait until we face one of barca, madrid, or bayern to pass judgment on this side.

28th October 2012, 22:21	#22 (permalink)
VII Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: http://newtonheath.org Posts: 1,959	And here I am thinking we've been very poor so far. Only lucky to have Chicharito and van Persie saved us on numerous occasions. Almost every game we've looked like we're gonna lose. Today even when Chelsea was down to 9 men I was still bricking it in the 94th min.

28th October 2012, 22:30	#23 (permalink)
Still ill Reserve Team Player Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,008	We're a joy to watch for the neutrals. I'm like an Alan Hansen impersonator in front of the box every week, though. That's not a good thing. Maybe it's my advancing years, but a bit more control wouldn't hurt. There's only so much unpredictability I can take.

28th October 2012, 22:33	#24 (permalink)
Siorac First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 16th century Posts: 6,161	Who's the third world class player, OP? Rooney, Van Persie and...?

28th October 2012, 22:44	#26 (permalink)
gooDevil Worst scout ever Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Kids are the Future Posts: 17,004	Nani of course.

28th October 2012, 22:49	#27 (permalink)
Van Piorsing Lost his light sabre Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Polska Posts: 11,057	It's precisely what Fergie said before start of the season... It's gonna be a ride with lots of thrillers, indeed. He only forgot to add - with shit load of goals ! This club is making the league far more exciting, not for the first time. TV stations and sponsors must love it. Manchester United, the first cinematic action football club. (Suarez will propably win the Oscar, though)

28th October 2012, 22:57	#28 (permalink)
RedDevil [NC] Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In the Mountains of NC watching United like its my Religion!!! Posts: 1,913	You can see all the signs of them clicking but they also go through spells where there unsure which direction to go. But like alot of people this team jsut has something about them that makes it easy to fall in love with them. Youth mixed with class

29th October 2012, 00:37	#31 (permalink)
marjen First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: at the back post, lurking around, waiting for an easy tap-in. Posts: 5,399	There's been a while since we looked as adept at cutting through teams as we do now. RvP's making us absolutely lethal. It would be nice if we could defend at times though. I'm sure we'll improve when we have some fit defenders, and De Gea remembers he's not a 15 year-old about to lose his virginity.

29th October 2012, 00:40	#32 (permalink)
Gazza Magic Carpet Pilot Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "some place faaar away... yes, that'll do" Posts: 27,938	Rafael personifies the entire United team right now. He symbolizes our spirit, attacking adventure and occasional defensive naivety. And I love Rafael lots and lots, same with this United team.

29th October 2012, 00:43	#33 (permalink)
Relevated majestic retarded dinosaur, we love you Rel! - the redcafe modmins Join Date: May 2011 Location: The less of the world, the freer you live. Posts: 12,231	We just need for all our players to be fit so we can get some consistency and everything it just needs time

29th October 2012, 09:10	#38 (permalink)
Randall Flagg shitline Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,910	Apart from great strikers I see nothing at all to compare this side with 99. Not even close IMO. I'm not liking the amount of goals we are leaking. I hope when Vidic finally comes back this changes.