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Old 15th August 2009, 19:51   #81 (permalink)
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Old 15th August 2009, 19:59   #82 (permalink)
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Not sure if people who ask for feedback really want it or not, but here goes...

This is a nice addition to the site, and the three presenters are all very personable, all seem like really nice lads. They're also fairly articulate, none of the constant umming and erring you tend to get on these things.

The downside is, I'm not totally sure why I'd want to keep tuning in, because, without meaning to be rude, it isn't really funny or really insightful, either of which would be fine and both together great.

There's a few smiles - the Scholes-like bloke sounds quietly sardonic - and a generally pleasant atmosphere, but it's not what you'd call funny - it's not trying to be. And you don't get anything from it on the level of analysis that you don't get from chatting to your mates down the boozer, it's more or less the same conversation only with less liberal use of the word 'cunt'. "I've seen a few youtube videos but that's it... I only know him off football manager.... he doesn't look great, but you know, Sir Alex knows what he's doing..."

Things like the centre midfield conversation are ones we've all had literally about a thousand times before. "We need a playmaker... Carrick and Fletch are excellent but not amazing... Anderson? Bags of potential, but needs to step up..."

To be fair, it has this in common with most media football discussion, even on major networks. It may be that there's just nothing much to say about football that we haven't all said before.

Maybe this will change with the reserve reports and stuff like that. Anyway, it's a good idea and very professionally done.
Yeah I noticed that too when I was listening, but I don't know how long it's been since the last one they made. If it's been a long time then it stands to reason that they would like to talk about everything that has happened since, which could very well include a lot of old news that we've talked to death and old arguments we've heard thousands of times before from our own posters.

Now that they've got the old stuff out of the way, and since this is going to be a weekly podcast, I think all the topics they discuss are going to be a lot fresher. It would do them a lot of good to release episodes no more than a day or two after the latest United match though.

Anyways great job Steve, Dan, and Dov. I'm glad to see you now have forum accounts, and I hope to see you guys around in other threads besides this one. I strongly encourage you guys to get active in all the forums and not just the United and Football ones so you get the full RedCafe experience.
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Old 15th August 2009, 22:30   #83 (permalink)
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'The other one' does have a name mate. I am guessing all this animosity I am getting is because I am from the south

Are there not any other southerners on RedCafe or something?!

Seriously though, I am happy to take criticism, aslong as it is constructive
, genuinely forgot... and don't worry, I'm from darn sarf too.
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Old 16th August 2009, 17:33   #84 (permalink)
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Cheers for the feedback guys, we will be developing the pod throughout the season. We will of course include your suggestions and ideas as we move forward.

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Old 16th August 2009, 17:35   #85 (permalink)
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I enjoyed the first episode, good job fellas
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Old 16th August 2009, 17:35   #86 (permalink)
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Spuds actually look quite good here....
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Old 16th August 2009, 17:36   #87 (permalink)
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Old 16th August 2009, 17:40   #88 (permalink)
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Just delete your post instead of spamming up the thread.
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Old 16th August 2009, 17:41   #89 (permalink)
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Cheers for the feedback guys, we will be developing the pod throughout the season. We will of course include your suggestions and ideas as we move forward.

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You three lads need to check your PMs. Top right of the page, click on messages.

Cheers.
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Says the guy with 10k posts in 1 yr...
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Old 17th August 2009, 11:48   #91 (permalink)
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That Steve guy's voice is exactly how I imagined jgraham's to be.
I haven't had chance to listen yet, but from reading this isn't Steve from down south?

Thanks again for a mention merman, but you can stop now if you want - it's getting a bit boring.
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A few questions/orders from me....

1. How is it recorded?
2. Could you maybe play some Westlife/hearsay every 1/2 mins
3. Seeing as 33% of Man Utd's following is Irish - Do we really need 3 UK accents. This is a polite way of saying you need an Irish presenter
4. A spot for Diver
5. How can you post in the main - yet have only 1 post. Surely Newbies will be annoyed
6. Is Dave - really weastedevil?
7. Who owns the rights to this. Is it Niall? Maybe we could get Elvis and Sparky to sell some advertising to Man Utd companies so the thing is sponsored....
8. Could we maybe get some live streaming for when it is recorded like Setanta used to with Talksport
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:08   #93 (permalink)
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I haven't had chance to listen yet, but from reading this isn't Steve from down south?

Thanks again for a mention merman, but you can stop now if you want - it's getting a bit boring.
I am indeed mate.

I am guessing by that post you're not? I don't understand the reference if that is indeed the case!
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:11   #94 (permalink)
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Check your PM Steve - top right of the screen, click on messages.
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:13   #95 (permalink)
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I am indeed mate.

I am guessing by that post you're not? I don't understand the reference if that is indeed the case!


Nope, i'm from St Helens which is pretty much in between Manchester & Liverpool. It's a strange reference that's for sure!

I notice looking back you thought you may have been getting a rough time of it because you are from Down South, i'm pretty certain that won't be the case as there are a fair few southerners posting on here!

Anyways good luck with it all!
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:20   #96 (permalink)
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Anyone know a good program to get podcasts on a BB? Or maybe I can get it in viigo?
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:24   #97 (permalink)
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Sorry mate, replied now.
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:42   #98 (permalink)
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A few questions/orders from me....

1. How is it recorded?
2. Could you maybe play some Westlife/hearsay every 1/2 mins
3. Seeing as 33% of Man Utd's following is Irish - Do we really need 3 UK accents. This is a polite way of saying you need an Irish presenter
4. A spot for Diver
5. How can you post in the main - yet have only 1 post. Surely Newbies will be annoyed
6. Is Dave - really weastedevil?
7. Who owns the rights to this. Is it Niall? Maybe we could get Elvis and Sparky to sell some advertising to Man Utd companies so the thing is sponsored....
8. Could we maybe get some live streaming for when it is recorded like Setanta used to with Talksport
I think you'll find this is a strictly non-Oirish podcast Baz.
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:46   #99 (permalink)
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That would be racist....
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Old 17th August 2009, 12:47   #100 (permalink)
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Old 17th August 2009, 13:28   #101 (permalink)
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Great effort. Keep it up. Makes a great change to listening to that fat twat Alan Green
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Why hello everyone.

Im glad to see that most people are enjoying the podcast.

Just thought I would introduce myself I am Dov (David) or as one person called me 'The Scot'

Cheers

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Been listening for the last year (and before, under the significantly less impressive 'previous management'), and it is the best regularly broadcast fan-cast that is out there.

When you really think about it, this is the best way for Niall to do this. Otherwise there would be some very difficult decisions and the inevitable pissing matches over who gets to do or run what. Now there are no auditions, there are no arguments, there is an experienced team with a long-term track record who come in hitting the ground running.

If you aren't a previous listener and you're disappointed by this for some reason (I presume largely because this isn't a grass roots Caf show from the start), or are asking them for this and that from the outset, you aren't really being fair to Steve, Dan, and Dov until you've heard the show a few times and also until you've given the team a chance to adapt to their new surroundings and the input they will get from the Caf.

The bad news from the podcasting team's point of view is you'll be sucked into the mad world that is the Caf just to find out what your audience thinks of you!

It takes a lot of effort to organise doing a podcast every week, and lots of us can barely organise logging on over here to bait scousers after days like Sunday. So you deserve heaps of credit.


Mind you, from someone who does listen, my only piece of criticism would be that for the love of God you please do not embarrass yourselves with any more 'Legends Profiles' this year.

For anyone who has missed them, they tend to go a bit like this:

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"I think I remember a game once where Roy Keane looked very angry..."

"Yeah, I remember that too. I think. He looked angry".

"What a legend."
Aside from that, there is a ton to recommend the show, and it is a ready-to-go professional fan-cast (if that is not an oxymoron). They've got a full season under their belt of delivering consistently enjoyable shows and (this is a very difficult thing in the podcast world) doing it ON TIME every week.

I'd suggest anyone who is skeptical just give it a chance for a few weeks, and also give them a chance to adapt to the Caf. Remember, it isn't going to be full of Cafness or even awareness of the Caf because it wasn't a Caf podcast until now.

They will adjust to the input they get, and you might find you get used to and like them the longer you listen. In time some more worthy Cafites might even end up participating on the podcast if they feel it is a good idea.

But even now it is a Caf-branded podcast, they're not exactly going to cut off their potential audience base by filling it with in-jokes and such, presuming they don't think we're just a bunch of loons.

The Caf unfiltered is always going to be best found on the Caf itself.

This podcast is already an excellent listen, and if you give it a chance it will only get better now it is associated with the Caf.

Good luck to them.
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Old 18th August 2009, 01:26   #103 (permalink)
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Just to let you know that for an appropriate fee I am prepared to make an appearence.

You've at least got to get Ralphie on there!
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Old 18th August 2009, 08:25   #104 (permalink)
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Thanks for your comments Jason, really appreciated. We recorded last night and unfortunately for you we did include another legends profile! I do take your point though.

An idea that I suggested to the guys was a legends profile (or a former player's profile if that's too easy) that reveals a few key and perhaps unusual facts about them but we don't actually reveal the identity of the player. We could then put that question to you Cafites but I guess the only way it would work is if people e-mail in their entries?

We have dropped a few more references to the forum in this week's show and hopefully we can get even more immeresed and keep improving with every week.

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You've at least got to get Ralphie on there!
We are definitely hoping to get members involved in the Pod, will keep you all posted!
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We have dropped a few more references to the forum in this week's show and hopefully we can get even more immeresed and keep improving with every week.
You have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
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Old 18th August 2009, 09:50   #106 (permalink)
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And you don't get anything from it on the level of analysis that you don't get from chatting to your mates down the boozer, .
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We have been waiting for nearly a decade for people to realise that about the Caf.

I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.
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Old 18th August 2009, 10:25   #107 (permalink)
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Great work, looking forward to this. Is there anywayy to register to the podcast so i can get the updates on the my phone.
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Old 18th August 2009, 11:17   #108 (permalink)
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I posted this in another thread thats gone dead, so i will repost it in here where the podcast discussion is happening......

I think what you guys need to be doing to looking though the forums, get involved and pick up on what is being discussed.

You somehow need to make it apply to RedCafe.

Based upon your podcasts from last year and your first from this year, you are going to have to get more in-depth into the subjects that you covered and start covering a boarder range of issues around the club.

You may have already noticed that there is some really insightful posters on here and some really good debate going on. If your doing a podcast in the name of the caf, then your level of analysis has to reflect that and build upon it. Not an easy task because most subjects will have been done to death on the forums.

Your podcast was good last year, but it felt like it was aimed towards the more “casual” United fan – it was a bit lightweight.

If your now trying to appeal to the members of the caf, some of whom eat, sleep, drink United, then I think you boys are going to have to up your games.

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Old 18th August 2009, 12:25   #109 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice Gaffs, we'll be doing our best to improve the podcast as best we can throughout the season.

Listen out for a mention of your great self during the latest show by the way!
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Old 18th August 2009, 12:33   #110 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice Gaffs, we'll be doing our best to improve the podcast as best we can throughout the season.

Listen out for a mention of your great self during the latest show by the way!
Thanks Southerner.

Cant imagine that its going to be complementary!!!
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Old 18th August 2009, 12:41   #111 (permalink)
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i think it's a good addition and keeps redcafe ahead of the game so to speak. but i'm scared by change. you whippersnappers with your new fangled ways. i yearn for the good old days of the telegram. far more personal and special. perhaps each one of us could receive a personal telegram instead of a generic show on the wireless? i'd like mine sung to me by a barber shop quartet. many thanks for your time and undoubted co-operation.
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Old 19th August 2009, 03:16   #112 (permalink)
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Good second episode, i enjoyed it. I agree with the comments about going more in depth on the analysis side, felt the review of the Birmingham game didn't cover much about tactics both of United and Birmingham (a big point of our performance was down to Birmingham getting 10 men behind the ball & a deep back line).

Technically, you guys need to normalise your recording properly. Theres a couple of spikes on the waveform due to the jingles, look into soft limiting to ensure you can get a generous (not overly loud) volume of the podcast. If you need some tips, then drop me a PM & i can assist. Also Steve, you should get the same mic setup as Dov as his seems to have a lot more clarity in the recording!

Check out the Guardians Football podcast, it's a good benchmark for how a good podcast is produced
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Old 19th August 2009, 08:39   #113 (permalink)
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Also Steve, you should get the same mic setup as Dov as his seems to have a lot more clarity in the recording!
How did you find the sound quality in the first episode compared to the second? We have used different programs to record and edit in both shows so would be good to see which, in your opinion, produces the better output.
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Would i be right in saying the 3 of you are not in the same room?
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Would i be right in saying the 3 of you are not in the same room?
You would be right.
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Old 19th August 2009, 09:14   #116 (permalink)
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You would be right.
It does sound like it - it cant be easy doing it that way.

Podcast was good, I listened on the way to work this morning. I think taking a current thread and discussing it makes a good feature.

You can tell you boys are new to the forum becasue to me names like Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber ans TrippingStoned now seem very normal.

IMO, its RedCafe, not RedCaf. That’s how you pronounce the restaurant inside Old Trafford anyway.

But for short, its "The Caf". Caf members are often referred to as Caftards.

Keep up the good work Southerner.
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How did you find the sound quality in the first episode compared to the second? We have used different programs to record and edit in both shows so would be good to see which, in your opinion, produces the better output.
The second one sounded better in terms of quality, just need to watch the noise levels in order to get a good recording.
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Does anyone know what the URL is so i can subscribe to this podcast.
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