John O'Shea

moses · 20th April 2011, 12:40

Yep, he is one inelegant motherfucker, I'll say that.

Devil may care · 20th April 2011, 12:41

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Originally Posted by moses

I think Rafael has done some cementing in fairness, but there are very few Paddy Evras out there who can play that role at that level week in week out, and maybe that's why Paddy is dipping lately, cumilative fatigue.

We showed against Arsenal in the cup that there's more than one way to skin a cat and having both JOS and Rafael as first choice for different games gives huge options to the overall team which is a great thing for the manager to have.

My hope with Rafael is that he will become a week in week out player once he gets over his injury plague that young players often have, a consistent back 4 is a great thing to have.

Yeah O'Shea didn't have a bad game at DM against Arsenal, and his height offers Fergie a good option against certain opponents.

Brophs · 20th April 2011, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone

Yeah, if he ever gets a move named after him it will be lifting your foot to inexplicably allow a simple pass roll out of play.

Followed by jogging backwards with a sheepish grin on his face while Giggsy gives him a bollocking.

Pogue Mahone · 20th April 2011, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Brophs

Followed by jogging backwards with a sheepish grin on his face while Giggsy gives him a bollocking.

I never mastered the Cruyff Turn but I reckon I could have a good go at replicating the Sheasy Shuffle.

CLK_FPC · 20th April 2011, 13:39

I didn't understand all the flack he got yesterday. People were tweeting me saying he should be sold :-s
Didn't think he had his best game but I'm guessing the frustration of the game meant someone had to be the scapegoat

mr.suave · 20th April 2011, 13:55

He didn't have a great game but it's not like he had a shocker either. Looked fairly solid at the back but offered very little going forwards - O'Shea in a nutshell basically.

Was disappointed at the lack of width provided by both our full backs, to be honest. When you're trying to win the game you want the full backs to be flying up the flanks, supporting the attack and making overlapping runs. Time and time again Newcastle were able to double up on our wingers and nullify the threat from out wide.

Evra made one good run in behind (almost led to a goal) but that was about it.

Name Changed · 20th April 2011, 17:13

O'Shea was O'Shea, he was fine. He'll never be the best player in the team but he'll never be the worst. He gives a consistent performance.

Bilbo · 20th April 2011, 17:20

I'm not his biggest fan, but I think he's actually been pretty good lately by his own standards.

Shimo · 20th April 2011, 18:09

O'Shea is solid and experienced and love him but, in a game like yesterday, he should have been subbed for Fabio I think. We weren't really being exposed defensively that much and the pace/ability of Fabio in the attacking 3rd could have made a difference. We saw even against City at least he was effective with just 10 men.

Overall though I would have preferred if Evra was given a rest and O'Shea play a few games on the left with Fabio or Rafael playing down the right.

buckooo1978 · 20th April 2011, 18:18

he's really good backup to the first team

its difficult to have backup that can defend like o shea does and is as experienced and versatile, who understands what manchester united is about and who is happy to sit on the bench and be part of the squad

if he had a bit more composure, was a bit quicker and could pass the ball a bit better he'd be an excellent player - he is definately the weak link - then again - evra hasn't been shit hot this season

Decotron · 20th April 2011, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Shimo

O'Shea is solid and experienced and love him but, in a game like yesterday, he should have been subbed for Fabio I think. We weren't really being exposed defensively that much and the pace/ability of Fabio in the attacking 3rd could have made a difference. We saw even against City at least he was effective with just 10 men.

Overall though I would have preferred if Evra was given a rest and O'Shea play a few games on the left with Fabio or Rafael playing down the right.

good post...

giggs-beckham · 20th April 2011, 19:52

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Originally Posted by gaffs

I dont think the result was down to him tonight.

Though for games like tonight, it would be good to have a forward with a little more going forward.

Nani wouldnt pass to him, despite O'Shea making good overlapping runs.

That's because he can't cross......shoot, head, pass, dribble, is slow and has no technique.

Name Changed · 21st April 2011, 11:43

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Originally Posted by buckooo1978

he's really good backup to the first team

its difficult to have backup that can defend like o shea does and is as experienced and versatile, who understands what manchester united is about and who is happy to sit on the bench and be part of the squad

if he had a bit more composure, was a bit quicker and could pass the ball a bit better he'd be an excellent player - he is definately the weak link - then again - evra hasn't been shit hot this season

I wouldn't call O'Shea a backup, since he consistently plays when he is fit.

And defensively, he is not a weak link. Most of the goals we seem to concede come from the opposite side.
He could obviously improve going forward but that realistically is not going to happen. Defensively, he was pretty good and certainly not a weak link.

Randall Flagg · 8th May 2011, 17:12

Based on the 1st half, he has not put a foot wrong. Such a solid defender.

I dont think its crazy to ask the question if he should start instead of Evra for the final

Irwin · 8th May 2011, 17:14

I think based on recent form I'd put O'Shea in ahead of Evra. Park is also putting forward a strong case to start.

Randall Flagg · 8th May 2011, 17:14

he is injured now. FFS

Irwin · 8th May 2011, 17:15

I think based on recent injuries I'd put Evra in ahead of O'Shea

beardsleybob · 8th May 2011, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Based on the 1st half, he has not put a foot wrong. Such a solid defender.

I dont think its crazy to ask the question if he should start instead of Evra for the final

I think it is. He'd be torn apart by Alves and Pedro. Not even worth considering if we have a fit Evra ready to go

The Black Pearl · 8th May 2011, 17:16

Can't fault his 1st half performance there thats for sure, very solid. I hope the injury or the knock he sustained isn't too serious.

Mighty Boosh · 8th May 2011, 17:26

People talk about Fletcher being a big game player but I think O'Shea is equally as good for us in the big games, very solid player

Lynk · 8th May 2011, 18:33

Players like Fletcher, Park and O'Shea are vital.

prateik · 3rd February 2012, 15:51

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/#!/DavidMeyler/s...98934246793218
https://twitter.com/#!/FraizerCampbe...471104/photo/1

Sheasy..

Eyepopper · 3rd February 2012, 20:05

Sunny Jim · 3rd February 2012, 20:44

that's class...i miss JOS, i bet he misses United as well.

204Red · 3rd February 2012, 20:55

wait... what was he really doing with a haul of old Utd jerseys in a Sunderland locker room?

Quote:

Originally Posted by prateik

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/#!/DavidMeyler/s...98934246793218
https://twitter.com/#!/FraizerCampbe...471104/photo/1

Sheasy..

Amar__ · 6th May 2012, 15:41

Okay Sheasy, we need you. One quick red card and a penalty won't harm you too much in your next game.

Danish Wizard · 6th May 2012, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Amar__

Okay Sheasy, we need you. One quick red card and a penalty won't harm you too much in your next game.

And then we need a penalty more from Richardson and Bardsley, and a couple of own-goals from Brown

Amar__ · 6th May 2012, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Danish Wizard

And then we need a penalty more from Richardson and Bardsley, and a couple of own-goals from Brown

pick someone else, I believe Brown is injured.

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20th April 2011, 12:40	#121 (permalink)
moses Gone fishing Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A sizeable fondness for drab and dreary pastimes in The Free State. Posts: 9,539	Yep, he is one inelegant motherfucker, I'll say that.

20th April 2011, 13:39	#125 (permalink)
CLK_FPC First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ★I Be That Pretty Motherfucker...☆ Posts: 7,405	I didn't understand all the flack he got yesterday. People were tweeting me saying he should be sold :-s Didn't think he had his best game but I'm guessing the frustration of the game meant someone had to be the scapegoat

20th April 2011, 13:55	#126 (permalink)
mr.suave Reserve Team Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seoul via Manchester Posts: 1,653	He didn't have a great game but it's not like he had a shocker either. Looked fairly solid at the back but offered very little going forwards - O'Shea in a nutshell basically. Was disappointed at the lack of width provided by both our full backs, to be honest. When you're trying to win the game you want the full backs to be flying up the flanks, supporting the attack and making overlapping runs. Time and time again Newcastle were able to double up on our wingers and nullify the threat from out wide. Evra made one good run in behind (almost led to a goal) but that was about it.

20th April 2011, 17:13	#127 (permalink)
Name Changed weso26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 21,014	O'Shea was O'Shea, he was fine. He'll never be the best player in the team but he'll never be the worst. He gives a consistent performance.

20th April 2011, 17:20	#128 (permalink)
Bilbo First Team Sub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,283	I'm not his biggest fan, but I think he's actually been pretty good lately by his own standards.

20th April 2011, 18:09	#129 (permalink)
Shimo Reserve Team Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,968	O'Shea is solid and experienced and love him but, in a game like yesterday, he should have been subbed for Fabio I think. We weren't really being exposed defensively that much and the pace/ability of Fabio in the attacking 3rd could have made a difference. We saw even against City at least he was effective with just 10 men. Overall though I would have preferred if Evra was given a rest and O'Shea play a few games on the left with Fabio or Rafael playing down the right.

20th April 2011, 18:18	#130 (permalink)
buckooo1978 First Team Sub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,026	he's really good backup to the first team its difficult to have backup that can defend like o shea does and is as experienced and versatile, who understands what manchester united is about and who is happy to sit on the bench and be part of the squad if he had a bit more composure, was a bit quicker and could pass the ball a bit better he'd be an excellent player - he is definately the weak link - then again - evra hasn't been shit hot this season

8th May 2011, 17:12	#134 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	Based on the 1st half, he has not put a foot wrong. Such a solid defender. I dont think its crazy to ask the question if he should start instead of Evra for the final

8th May 2011, 17:14	#135 (permalink)
Irwin Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,218	I think based on recent form I'd put O'Shea in ahead of Evra. Park is also putting forward a strong case to start.

8th May 2011, 17:14	#136 (permalink)
Randall Flagg Scarlett woman ( Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn ) Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 16,681	he is injured now. FFS

3rd February 2012, 20:05	#143 (permalink)
Eyepopper Lowering the tone since 2006 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, think I'm heading home! Posts: 50,190

8th May 2011, 17:15	#137 (permalink)
Irwin Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,218	I think based on recent injuries I'd put Evra in ahead of O'Shea

8th May 2011, 17:16	#139 (permalink)
The Black Pearl ooh aah Paul McGrath Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In my John Deere Posts: 3,290	Can't fault his 1st half performance there thats for sure, very solid. I hope the injury or the knock he sustained isn't too serious.

8th May 2011, 17:26	#140 (permalink)
Mighty Boosh Reserve Team Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: If he was an inch taller he’d be the best centre half in Britain. His father is 6ft 2in - I’d check the milkman Sir Alex on Gary Neville Posts: 850	People talk about Fletcher being a big game player but I think O'Shea is equally as good for us in the big games, very solid player

8th May 2011, 18:33	#141 (permalink)
Lynk First Team Sub Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: "Liverpool couldn't win the league with Torres up front, Gerrard behind and Mascherano and Alonso in midfield. They aren't gonna win it with this shower of shit. " - Peterstorey Posts: 5,977	Players like Fletcher, Park and O'Shea are vital.

3rd February 2012, 15:51	#142 (permalink)
prateik First Team Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 19,029	Spoiler https://twitter.com/#!/DavidMeyler/s...98934246793218 https://twitter.com/#!/FraizerCampbe...471104/photo/1 Sheasy..

3rd February 2012, 20:44	#144 (permalink)
Sunny Jim First Team Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warsaw...that's too far away from Edinburgh... Posts: 14,700	that's class...i miss JOS, i bet he misses United as well.

6th May 2012, 15:41	#146 (permalink)
Amar__ Reserve Team Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 2,672	Okay Sheasy, we need you. One quick red card and a penalty won't harm you too much in your next game.